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What software did you use to create the image below?

Neil - I used MS Visio (perk of my job)

Big - you room is awesome - I needs me a visit The $200 was the enclosure - not the complete speaker set up? From what I googled in Triads was looking over $2K

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The electronics ran $170 and I estimated the rest at $30.

http://www.madisound.com/audaxhometheater.html

The crossovers come pre-assembled.
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http://www.abt electronics.com/product/17071.html (remove the space in the URL!!!)

Do not. I repeat. DO NOT buy from BrandNamez, even though they're cheaper. The don't carry them and I canceled my order through them after a few weeks. Poor customer service.

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Bud - Thanks. These Sonance in-ceiling speakers look jus right and might even go back with the Asends for mains and use the sonance for all surrounds. The Asend are priced right and get rave reviews - only negativity has been some cosmetic issues.

I'll defer my decision until I see/hear BIGs setup over the weekend. If I'm reading his comment correctly the Triads can similarly priced.

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Been another productive weekend.

Got the copper plumbing nearly done - just got a minor leak on a threaded connection to the shower - but cannot fix without un-soldering an elbow

Nearly finished my soffits and electrical - should get all that done during the week.

Think I just need to get my speaker conduit done then should be good to go for 1st inspection.

Also found some local dealers that stock the Sonance In-Ceiling speakers so going to check them out.

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I went to a local dealer of the Sonance - they had the S622TR In-Ceiling and the S622T In-Wall speakers - was not the best demo set up (just a load of speakers on the wall).

The sales rep (after discussing my current equip wish list and price points) there was advising that the Definitive Technology In-Ceiling (UIW 64/A Reference) and In-Wall (UIW BP/A) surrounds were better and also was recommending the BP7006 for Front Sides and ProCenter C2 for Center.
[Edit] the BP7006 also have built-in powered subwoofers [\\EDIT]

They had demo rooms with DT speakers but not the exact set up as above - sounded pretty good......will need to go back and demo properly (any suggestions for content to test with).

Anyone got experience with Definitive Technology? I'll also check out the Speaker forum and other reviews.

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BIG - Those Audax HT Kits won't work out. Unfortunatly my soffits are too small.

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I went to a local dealer of the Sonance - they had the S622TR In-Ceiling and the S622T In-Wall speakers - was not the best demo set up (just a load of speakers on the wall).

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Where did you go to hear the Sonance?
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Sterling VA, 20164

Is in the Sugarland Crossing Shopping Plaza off of Route 7 - their set-up for demoing the Sonance was poor - just a wall of speakers so difficult to judge.

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Well, they are for surrounds (in my case). I'm sure that's not how they were demoed and they were recommended by Ascend, so who knows. I looked at the Def Techs, almost bought some off ebay a while back, then heard about the Ascends.

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I was not implying the Sonances were poor - just the demo facility the dealer had for them. The Sonances sounded OK but like I said they were mounted in a wall with about 10 others that were also OK. I'm sure the demo did not show them of to their full potential.

The problem I'm having with these internet-only brands is the lack of being able to hear them for myself. The Ascends & Axioms get great reviews from those that own them. But then most people seem rave about the speakers they own - not heard anyone say spent $2k + on speaker and they are rubbish

The one good thing about the Def Techs is both Magnolia & MyerEmco stock them and have reasonable demo capabilities with choices of media feeds so I can get a truer feel for them. If any HT'ers in the NoVA area have Asends, Axioms or Def Techs (I think I'm giving up on my old love Mordaunt Shorts) and are willing to let me have a listen appreciate a PM.

Choices, choices, choices!

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I know, I did not take it that way. The Ascends have a 30 day policy, keep that in mind.

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Went into Magnolia this eveing and listerned to a demo of Denon AVR 3806, Denon DVD 1920, Def Tech BP7006 Front L&R, Def Tech CLR2002 Center and Def Tech BP2X Side surrounds.....did sound good.

Was impressed with the Bass even though the BP7006's didn't have the LFE connected......and seemed OK on the WAF

The above Def Tech set-up with UIW 64/A rear In-Ceiling retails $2,550 and I would think should be able to get around 15-20% off that.

So for now I'm going to base my build on wall mounted sides and in-ceiling rears.

Won't be buying till June so I can still be swayed.

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I posted a question about the Def Techs in the Speaker Forum but wondering if part of question will get more response from the acoustic folks in this forum.

The Def Techs BP7000 series are Bipolar so therefore treating the screen wall with Linacoustic will cancel out the rear sound........so if I use these should I not treat the screen wall at all or should I partially treat? If answer is partial treatment where?

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PS.....Framing, Electrics and plumbing complete.....should get the HVAC and speaker conduit done this weekend (although got some yard work to do ). Hoping to go for inspection next Friday.

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BIG - This soooooo complicated. I finally find speakers that I like the sound of and in my budget......but the 'experts' don't recommend using Bipolar fronts in a dedicated HT!

- Is anyone out there using the BP7000 series in their dedicated HT?
- Are you happy with them?
- Did you do any rear treatment?

[EDIT] I guess I need to ensure I have a return policy on any speakers I buy but that don't help my planning [/EDIT]

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Well I think I'm 99% ready for my first inspection.

- Framing complete
- Plumbing complete (except final position of the shower p-trap)
- HVAC complete
- Electrical (just need to route one final wire)

I've got a questiobn to any Loudouners out their on Firestopping.

I've used drywall and insulation between walls and ceilings/soffits and also along the adjoining walls. Do I need to also use insulation between each of the I-beams in the ceiling? I'm going to be doing this eventually to help with noise but not sure if needs to be in place for Firestopping.
[EDIT] Just spoke to county and no need to firestop between rooms in ceiling - so will do when I insulate for noise [/EDIT]

All being well I'll be arranging inspection for Friday.

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Good luck on the inspection!
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Jerrod - Thanks......all done with pre-inspection work now (other than pre-paring some grounds - but waiting to talk to the inspector).....oh yeah also need to install the freezeproof faucet!

Watch this space Friday for a happy or glum Brit!

Drywall lift came - all assembled now.

Auditioned a few more speakers Boston (yuck), Klipsch (OK-ish) and Def Tech Mythos (OK - but not as good as the DT Bipolars).......going to be checking out a friends Polks soon.

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I love my Ascends so far. I haven't heard the full 7.1 setup yet, but the 304's across the front sound great!
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Yeah - heard Ascends are good however I don't really like the look of their surrounds.....Bud has found the Sonance In-ceiling great. If I can swing a business trip to Atlanta guess where I'm heading

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Well the good news is I passed the Electrical Inspection. I spoke to the inspector about using a Inlet receptacle and he was fine with that.

I also passed Mechanical - but nearly failed that as I split a new 6" duct (tied into the main trunk) into 2 6" regesiters. Luckily he was leanent!

However, I failed plumbing. I had taken 3 connections of a 1/2" pipe and your only allowed 2. So need to adjust that a bit! Hopefully I can get that sorted and be ready for re-inspection next Friday (camping this weekend).

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Good job, I failed plumbing as well, failed to insulate the pipes from freezing and failed to run 100 psi pressure test on the line, I just hooked it into the water supply and said no leaks...

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Mark sounds like it won't be long before you'll be a rockin and slingin mud!
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BIG - This soooooo complicated. I finally find speakers that I like the sound of and in my budget......but the 'experts' don't recommend using Bipolar fronts in a dedicated HT!

- Is anyone out there using the BP7000 series in their dedicated HT?
- Are you happy with them?
- Did you do any rear treatment?


I don't know if you have had a chance to listen to an Mirage products, but for performance, and IMO they are better than the Def Techs.

Any way, I have had the Mirage bi-polars (M3-si) first for stereo listening (incredible) and then in a home theater setup. I was not happy with the type of sound bipolar speakers portrayed for home theater. It is too diffuse. If you want "pin point accuracy" when experiencing the home theater sound, I think bi-polars are not the way to go. Yes they can fill a room with sound, yes they can sound incredible, but no matter how they market it I really don't think the bipolar sound is right for a dedicated home theater. Either that or they need a lot of specialized room treatments.

I am in the process of building a very modest dedicated home theater room and will be using some form of direct radiating speakers for the fronts and dipolar (or quad-polar) for the surrounds. Currently I have Monitor Audio GR60s and am debating a total Axiom system or purchasing the MA Gold LCR and going with Axiom surrounds.

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Bruce - thanks. I see Magnolia are a dealer - funny they didn't suggest these at all, was push Boston, Def Dech and Martin Logan......I see if either of the local Magnolios have them

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Got my plumbing sorted this afternoon, just need to get the shower base installed......got another Plumbing inspection scheduled for Monday and if that passes will get Framing inspection done on Thursday or Friday.

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Yipee - just passed plumbing......hope to arrange for Framing inspection on Thursday, insulate over weekend and pre-drywall inspection on Monday.

Hopefully thinks will move faster then!

I need to take Pics before drywall so will post some soon.

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Nice Mark, keep it going and post lots of pictures !!

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Brit -

Man, you're SMOKIN'! You're putting me to shame! But that's good...now I can pick your brain on my project!

Keep on it! Can't wait to see it.

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