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I would agree that this is the worst part of the build also - but it also is the part of the build that really starts to bring the "vision" to life. I can finally start to see what the room is going to look like and also can tell that sound treatment will be very necessary. The room is a little "live" right now...

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Aw, drywall is not that bad I can say that cause I just finished mine. Using the tapping mud for the tape joints made a HUGE difference. Then all purpose and then for the final coat use topping mud. I had very little sanding to do at all. In fact I was able to sand my entire 1200sq ft basement in about 4 hours. I used 3 boxes of taping mud, 6 buckets of all purpose and 4 boxes of topping mud. Thats a lot of mud

I had an easy time cleaning up because I used the brown construction paper from HD and laid it on the floor prior to tapping/mudding. I had been through this before and did not want to scrape up dried mud.

Glad you are progressing. Hopefully you can finish up this weekend. How are you going to texture? I decided to do a knockdown on the ceilings but am going to do a faux stucco/plaster look on the walls. I also decided to go with a star ceiling like you did.

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Drew - I found some mud in HD called Easysand 45 by Sheetrock.....supposidly dryed in 45 minutes (not!).....I still found it took 4+ hours (and I was not laying on thick - plus its workability was short lived. I just ended up sticking with the low dust tubs from HD.

I'm not doing any texture.....the ceilings soffits will be flat paint (so need perfect finish ) and I'll be wood panelling the walls (although the HT will have fabric covered panels) so I'm just doing a rought mudding job on walls (yipeeeeeeee)

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Kevin - Yes good thing is things are taking shape and hopefully on the home run after this weekend.

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Drew - I found some mud in HD called Easysand 45 by Sheetrock.....supposidly dryed in 45 minutes (not!).....I still found it took 4+ hours (and I was not laying on thick - plus its workability was short lived. I just ended up sticking with the low dust tubs from HD.

I'm not doing any texture.....the ceilings soffits will be flat paint (so need perfect finish ) and I'll be wood panelling the walls (although the HT will have fabric covered panels) so I'm just doing a rought mudding job on walls (yipeeeeeeee)

Must be the high humidity of Virginia Are you buying the wood panelling or DIY?

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DIY for the panelling - my woodworking skills tend to be better than my dry walling

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I used the metal/tape combination corners. Makes for a really sharp corner. They work great.

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DIY for the panelling - my woodworking skills tend to be better than my dry walling

Sweat, I can't wait to see that. I am doing the same thing for my bar. My plan is to use 1/2 stain grade birch plywood along with real maple wood. "Slap" it all together and get and old fashioned Irish pub out of it. But we will see.....long way from that.

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I second Bud's recommendation on the paper/metal corners. Used them for all inside and outside corners. Worked great. Why are you only doing one side of the corner at a time? I've read this before somewhere, but I just finished doing my basement (650 ft^2, 55 sheets, 7 boxes of mud) and I did both sides at once. Didn't seem to be any problems at all. Looks great.
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I'm curious on the woodworking on the bar that you guys are gonna do. I'm leaning towards building a custom "bar front" once the cabinets get installed (I sent them a 50% deposit yesterday). I'm thinking about a stained raised panel look or a wainscot look. I'll have to match the stain of the cabinets (or do something complimentary). Got some ideas, just have to figure out how to pull it off. I'm think I'm ahead of you guys in the bar department though.

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I was really glad before, but after reading more of your thread, I am so glad I was able to hire out the drywall! My basement has a total of 220 sheets and I just couldn't imagine doing all of that myself. More power to you!
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Bud - Herea are a few pics of british pub bars

The Bow Bells (Bow, London)


The white Hart (Liverpool St, London)


The Aldgate Excange (Aldgate, London)


The Cheshire Cheese (City, London)


The Shipright Arms (London Bridge, London)

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Mark,

No doubt that you've been to them all! Are there bigger versions of the pictures?

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Now that is what I'm aiming for!
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Bud - been to some but not all. Unfortunatly these were from a site called Harbottle's Pub Guide

I'm trying to narrow down to a few potentials and then see if I can get friends in UK to get some bigger snaps.

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Ceiling colour ideas.

OK starting to think about the HT colour scheme. The walls will be a mixture of wood (possibly Oak) with fabric panelling with predominantly Red. Myself nor the Wife want black ceiling - don't think the Blue's will work with the wall treatments so think maybe a dark red.

Any suggestions or recollections of who has used red for ceiling?

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Nice, thank you for the drywall pics. Your drywall skills look good, nice and smooth...

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Nice, thank you for the drywall pics. Your drywall skills look good, nice and smooth...

Its called sanding

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Ceiling colour ideas.

Any suggestions or recollections of who has used red for ceiling?

BritinVa, I have red on the ceiling...well, its sorta red...its the same color used as the base color on my wall (the wall is faux painted with red/maroon and brown/gold). you can see the colors in the pics in my sig.
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A medium gray always looks nice with red, IMO. What color stain are you talking about?

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Asem - I still need to get down to see your HT.....just been a bit pre-occupied with this drywall

Bud - Gray not good on the WAF scale - I'm thinking a medium oak stain, I need to start getting some test lumber/stain.

Final stages of mudding today hopefully just some sponge sanding tomorrow then I'll seal and post some pics.

Taking afternoon off to go to the Dominion Beer Festival in Ashburn - Highlight of the calendar

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Well drywall hell is now over (well nearly - little bit to finish in the Bath).

Here are some current pics.

Towards Screen


Towards Bar


Now going to seal the drywall where it will be painted and start the stage.

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Great news! Now the it enters the fun stage, eh?

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Great news! Now the it enters the fun stage, eh?

I sure hope so!

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Stage will be 11' x 4' - going to be using 2"x6" PT lumber which will sit on pink foam, then cover with 3/4" ply (or MDF). I know these things should be completely filled with sand but at $3.27 a bag thats going to be expensive!

I've seen others stick some solid blocks in the sand - is the OK - no adverse affect?

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DW looks great!!

I had a pile of loose bricks that I couldn't use for anything lying around. I asked the same question.....they reside in the sand now. I just made sure that there was space around each brick so that they wouldn't rattle.

Saved me a trip to the dump. Can't tell they are in there.

If we didn't have so much rain of late you could have probably bought bulk at the landscape shops, now it's too wet.
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If we didn't have so much rain of late you could have probably bought bulk at the landscape shops, now it's too wet.

Big - Yes will definitely be steering clear of bulk sand. We've had quite some rain. I now have a river in my back yard (previous owner warned me but said never got nearer than 6' to the house) - so far OK

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Congrats on the drywall finish. I know I was glad when mine was done so enjoy. Now comes the real fun part. As for sand in the stage, I am not convinced it is necessary. Of course I could be wrong . Any way I responded to you about the sand in my thread. You may want to consider using 2x8's or even 2x10's for the stage. I was originally going to use 2x6's and glad I changed my mind to 2x8's. Also I think you would be better off with 3/4" plywood or OSB rather than MDF or particle board - Just MO.

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Thanks Drew - I've not found any specific information on whether the whole stage 'needs' to be filled with sand. Unless someone chimes in to give some good reasoning I'm going to just fill the 2 proscenium corners where sub(s) will be located and just insulate the rest.

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Huge milestone. That's one big hump you got over. Things will speed up now.

I used 2x8s for riser and used the remainder for the stage (planned it that way). You'll want to make sure your riser has sufficient height so you can look over the seats/backs of heads. I could have went 2x10, wouldn't have hurt, based on the back of 090s in upright position. Not a problem for me, but if a kid is in the back seat and the front seat is not reclined, potentially could be an issue. I'm probably over thinking it and expect it not to be a real problem, but keep it in mind when you figure out your height. If you go 2x10, you're going to have to add a step.

Use 3/4 plywood, definitely. I also think you can get away with filling the sections for the sub, but make sure you at least fill the others with insulation. Where did you get the price of the sand? Sounds high to me. I think I used 24 bags for my stage, the cost is not significant when you compare it to everything else!

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