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Uncle Sam was good to me...or I was overly generous toward Uncle Sam, so I see some non-lawn furniture seating in my future!

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Gonzo,

I was looking through your thread again since I am about to make my screen in the next week or so. You angled your SMX material a bit (but not 15 degrees as suggested) and I wondered if you have experienced any moire at all? Just curious.

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John,
I have not had any moire issues. I am not sure I knew it was suppose to be 15 degrees, so I just put some sort of angle to it. It has worked fine. Are you using the Pfiefer product or did you get a hold of SmX?

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The Pfiefer stuff. I did not buy the SMX when I had the chance. Thanks for the information.

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The Pfiefer stuff. I did not buy the SMX when I had the chance. Thanks for the information.

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Specifically which Pfiefer stuff are you refering to? I have seen the name bounced around the forums quite a bit and know all about SmX and such, but not sure on the exact Pfiefer material people are using without going to SmX.

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Specifically which Pfiefer stuff are you refering to? I have seen the name bounced around the forums quite a bit and know all about SmX and such, but not sure on the exact Pfiefer material people are using without going to SmX.

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Google "Seymour AV"

John can attest to this, I did side by side comparison of the two products and visually could not see a difference. There may be a slight difference in some audio or video measurables, but the "stand back and look" test did not show a noticeable difference.

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I just got done browsing through your entire thread, reading most of it. Very nicely done! Maybe one day I can see it in person.

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I just got done browsing through your entire thread, reading most of it. Very nicely done! Maybe one day I can see it in person.


Thanks, Mike. If you are ever up this way I would be happy to show it to you.

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Great thread and incredible theater. I will be stealing several (some already hot, I am sure) ideas for my theater build. I can't wait to see pics of the seating you are going to use!

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Google "Seymour AV"

John can attest to this, I did side by side comparison of the two products and visually could not see a difference. There may be a slight difference in some audio or video measurables, but the "stand back and look" test did not show a noticeable difference.

As Gonzo said, there was no difference to me when I compared them side by side. Not saying that there isn't, I just could not see one. And if there is a difference with the audio and video I would venture to say it is only very slight and it is doubtful that I will hear or see any difference between the 2. And there is no doubt it will beat my current BO cloth screen in both visuals and audio.

With that said, I just sent an e-mail to Seymour AV to place my order for the fabric. If all goes well I could have it by Wed of next week.

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Great thread and incredible theater. I will be stealing several (some already hot, I am sure) ideas for my theater build. I can't wait to see pics of the seating you are going to use!

You ought to see it in person. Very nice.

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Gonzo, I really like the picture in the first post, how did you take it? I assume you had camera on a tripod with no flash? It looks cool with the rope lights showing like that. I have white rope lights and a black ceiling and have been putzing around trying to get a picture that shows what yours does without looking washed out.

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Bogg, I used a tripod, no flash and lights in the room turned up more than usual. Thus, the washed out screen images. I used the option on the digital camera (not sure what it is called) that lets you take several pictures in a row and then used autostitch to create the panoramic image. I tried several different setting on the camera, but decided the "auto" setting without flash ended up capturing it the best. Some camera guys could probably give you better advice about the settings.

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I decided to revamp the front speaker stand. When I initially set them up I used 2 empty cardboard boxes on top of 2 empty drywall buckets and a board on top. This was only temporary... well, 6 months later, I figure it is time to do it right. I bought 4 cinderblocks and some rubber, mesh, drawer liner. The I place the liner in between the board and the cinderblock to create a little cushion and to add some friction. Here is the result:


I also ordered 1 row of seating. The second row is back ordered for a few months.

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Hey Gonzo,

Looking good. I have a quick question for you. I see you used Velcro to hold your screen wall panels in place. How well did that work for you? I'm nearing that point in my build and will need to make an order for velcro in a couple of days. I can't think of a better way, so I'm thinking velcro is the way to go. I'm a little concerned with how it might stick to the screen wall and the panels.

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The velcro works just fine. It holds very well. I am more concerned about breaking my frames when I pull them off than the velcro not holding tight enough. Velcro also allows some wiggle room--you can slide panels a little here or there to get everything to line up right.

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I will comment that we had problems with velcro using an adhesive to a fabric wrapped column and panel. The velcro stuck fine, the glue on the back of the velcro would fail (a lot). After successive hot glue gun and super glue applications it got better. If we hadn't sold the place I was going to switch to the grill magnets that parts express sells. The fabric we were adhering to was dazian janus, which is a slick surface in some ways.
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I put about 6 staples through each piece of velco that was overlying fabric. They have not as of yet pulled off. You should see the frames bend when I am trying to pull them off the wall.

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That's an idea that simply didn't occur to me. Here I am with my pneumatic stapler for all my fabric and I could use that to attach the velcro to the panels.

My concern about the magnets is that they wouldn't hold well. I should ask Bud too. Thanks for the input guys,

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I put about 6 staples through each piece of velco that was overlying fabric. They have not as of yet pulled off. You should see the frames bend when I am trying to pull them off the wall.

Great idea. I was limited by using a very thin wood on the frame, which was to cover speaker access panels. I keep the staples in mind for v2.0 though.
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I revieved my second mini-fridge for the bar. The first one was damaged so I sent it back. This is what the second one looked like:




Needless to say, this one went back too. Hopefully the third time is truely the charm.

I also recieved the front row of seats. The back row is back-ordered and should ship in August. They are Berkline 13174 with power recline.



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Lookin Good! Very classy :-)
Is that ice or glass in your second fridge? :-)
Dude, What a mess! I hope you finally get one that works!

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Gonzo, refresh my memory.. did you use blue LED rope light? It's really blue, I like it.

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Lookin Good! Very classy :-)
Is that ice or glass in your second fridge? :-)
Dude, What a mess! I hope you finally get one that works!

that would be glass. One of the shelves shattered. I tried to clean it up, thinking they could just send me a new shelf, but the door would not seal properly, so I sent it back.

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Gonzo, refresh my memory.. did you use blue LED rope light? It's really blue, I like it.

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yep, bud, I used a blue LED. I like it also. I looks pretty cool with the brushed suede finish.

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Man you have some bad luck with refrigerators. But on the other hand you have great taste in seating LOL Too bad the others are back-ordered for so long. They look great though. Not too long and you'll be complete.

Still working on mine. I have some fabric issue to resolve. After hanging my fabric I have developed some wrinkles from the fabric sagging. Not sure why but perhaps the changes in temp and humidity now that I have the AC hooked up? next week is devoted to getting the fabric re-stretched and the HT trimmed out.

I still have not watched a movie in there yet but my kids are down there every night, even without seats LOL

Let us know once you are finished and have a get together so the locals can come by and see it in person. BTW your old drywall lift has begun its new life in another local build-out LOL It is getting around more than I did in my single days.
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Well, I hope that lift is using protection. I had a similar sag issue with my DIY screen. I think it is related to the wood contracting a little when the temperature decreases.

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Too late, but I have read that laying a layer of plastic over concrete basement floors and building on top of it is a bad idea. Any moisture will be stuck under the plastic and eventually lead to mold issues. That is the advantage of drycore/delta-fl/etc; it allows air to circulate between the moisture barrier and the concrete and eventually venting at the edges of the subfloor.

Also, there was no way this thing was coming up without a circular saw and a crowbar

Concrete sealant and 15 pound ashpalt felt over top seems a good way to go as well

Whats with all this WAF stuff. If she don't help, she has no say!
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I've read all 18 pages and I have to say that this is the best build I've come across on this site.

Love the theater Gonzo

How much time have you spent on this project?
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Thanks, Tigre. I have no idea how to actually quantify the number of hours put into the project. I can say it was a lot... a whole lot. This Thanksgiving it will be 3 years since I started. The last 6 months, I really have not been working very hard at finishing things up. Playing way too much Warhawk on the PS3. I still have a few projects, like finishing the bathroom and re-doing the stairs/handrails. I hope to the have the bathroom pretty much done in the next week or two. I am really procrastinating with the stairs project.

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