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Spec4's Avatar Spec4 11:52 AM 05-02-2013
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I looked high and low through these forums to find a black material that wasn't GOM to use around my Seymour XD screen for my false wall. I don't recall the product, but it was found at a local fabric store. It is super thin and airy. Looks like velvet of sorts on the outside, but I wasn't fully convinced until I had a local guy with some nice AV monitoring and calibration equipment do a favor and just measure the difference of sound with a full range speaker with and without the fabric in front of it. His equipment is pretty high quality, and it DID detect differences, but very minimally. He was impressed that it did so well for a cheaper material. I didn' think it was THAT cheap until I used a Jo Ann Fabrics 50% off coupon, then it got "cheap".

I really wish I remember what the stuff was....

Was it this suiting fabric?

NGiovas's Avatar NGiovas 01:21 PM 05-02-2013

I was looking through this thread to get ideas for my screen wall and have a question.  I plan to go with just the two vertical and one horizontal post, but my screen is curved.  I am looking for ideas for integrating the upper, lower and side panels since the screen will curve away from the wall.  What have others done?  My theater entrance is near the front.  With the screen curved away from the wall, you will be able to see behind it if the surrounding panels are flat.

 

Looking for some ideas.

 

Thanks,

Nick


BIGmouthinDC's Avatar BIGmouthinDC 01:50 PM 05-02-2013
Curve Frenzy had a curved screen (Seymour) the brackets that ship with that screen are designed to attach to a flat wall/frame. For their frames you attach the top with a special curved french cleat affair and the bottom reguires two L brackets to keep the screen from pulling away from the wall. those attach just below the screen edge.

For that project I just made four standard fabric panels and it wasn't a problem as the edge of the screen was so close to the wall you couldn't see around the edge. For a wider room you could just make the side panels wider so they tuck behind the screen or you could fasten some curved affair.
NGiovas's Avatar NGiovas 02:13 PM 05-02-2013

Thanks BIG.  I think my screen is the exact same size as his (140"), so it may not be as much of an issue as I was thinking it would be.  I will take another look at that thread.  I also plan to build the frame without the fabric to take some measurements, so that will give me a better idea of how far it will stick out.  

 

I'm thinking four flat panels will be the best solution.


nickbuol's Avatar nickbuol 02:49 PM 05-02-2013
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Was it this suiting fabric?

Sorry, but no it wasn't. I don't recall the word "suiting" anywhere in the name.

I should have kept better notes.
blipszyc's Avatar blipszyc 06:39 PM 05-02-2013
I purchased some velveteen material from JoAnn that is perfect for a screen wall. It was as dark or darker than the velvet on my Jamestown frame. It was pricey, but a 50% coupon made it more palatable.
Brad Horstkotte's Avatar Brad Horstkotte 10:20 AM 05-03-2013
Also check out syfabrics.com triple velvet, I use it on my screen wall panels, and it matches the Seymour screen frame velvet frame very well - and sucks up light very well.
matthewa's Avatar matthewa 10:30 PM 05-03-2013
I am about to start on my screen wall, and trying to get this straight in my mind. Do the "football" posts sit at the edge of the screen frame? Do you put some blocking timber on the outside walls to have the fabric panels sit against?
foraye's Avatar foraye 07:37 AM 05-04-2013
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I am about to start on my screen wall, and trying to get this straight in my mind. Do the "football" posts sit at the edge of the screen frame? Do you put some blocking timber on the outside walls to have the fabric panels sit against?[/quote

The screen frame hangs from the goal posts.

Spaceman's Avatar Spaceman 07:47 AM 05-04-2013
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I am about to start on my screen wall, and trying to get this straight in my mind. Do the "football" posts sit at the edge of the screen frame? Do you put some blocking timber on the outside walls to have the fabric panels sit against?

The goal posts are centered on the edge of your screen frame (so the frame sits against one half of the post and the fabric panel sits against the other half). Additional blocking may be required on the side wall to secure the other edge of the fabric panel.
bondslex's Avatar bondslex 08:11 PM 05-22-2013
Greetings all! Time to revamp my theater. As you can tell from the pic it is greatly outdated. I do have decent equipment though. I just need some advice. I want to do the screen wall but as you see I have the angled walls. Any advice on how to proceed? current theater.JPG 307k .JPG file
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BIGmouthinDC's Avatar BIGmouthinDC 08:25 PM 05-22-2013
Just build a screen wall to match the angles of the walls. Is there a particular aspect that stumps you?
bondslex's Avatar bondslex 02:40 PM 05-24-2013
I just wanted it to look like it was professionally done. I think with all of the builds I can do it. I just wish I didn't have the vaults.
jason4vu's Avatar jason4vu 03:02 PM 05-24-2013
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Greetings all! Time to revamp my theater. As you can tell from the pic it is greatly outdated. I do have decent equipment though. I just need some advice. I want to do the screen wall but as you see I have the angled walls. Any advice on how to proceed? current theater.JPG 307k .JPG file

bondslex's Avatar bondslex 07:48 PM 05-24-2013
Great pic Jason
jimmyk36's Avatar jimmyk36 05:04 PM 07-25-2013
A Big Thanks to Big!!!


I just built my screen wall following your instructions! Turned out great. My local HD didn't have any FJ 5/4 over 8 feet long so I went with 1x4 Pine. They used to carry it. What else is weird is they have FJ in 8 foot lengths but it is no longer 5/4 - it is standard 1x4".

Anyway - I finished putting it up last night and now I need to paint it.

Here are some pics:






ScAndal's Avatar ScAndal 07:02 PM 07-25-2013
looks great!
BIGmouthinDC's Avatar BIGmouthinDC 07:15 PM 07-25-2013
Approved, nice job.
MysticalJet's Avatar MysticalJet 05:49 AM 07-31-2013
See my build thread in my signature below.
linkseo's Avatar linkseo 04:38 PM 07-31-2013
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Added 3 - 18 inch Zbar brackets.






I cant beleive i never though of french cleats to hang the screen. Ugh. so simple. confused.gif
RossoDiamante's Avatar RossoDiamante 12:50 PM 08-27-2013

Am getting ready to put up my screen wall which is being inspired by Mr. Big's minimalist design.

 

But I'm wondering if I can go even more minimal.  Here is my proposed design:

 

PFU ScanSnap Manager #S1500

 

To secure the horizontal piece to the vertical piece, I have two Simpson plates that I can screw each piece into.  If needed, I cold repeat on the front as well, but I think a few 1" screws into 5/4 will be pretty secure.  This would allow a reduction of 2 pieces of 5/4.

 

For those local to DC, my local lumber yard had 5/4 a bit cheaper than Home Depot.  I think it was $1.25/linear ft.


linkseo's Avatar linkseo 01:47 PM 08-27-2013
exactly what type of simpson plate would you use to attach the vertical and horizontal pieces?
RossoDiamante's Avatar RossoDiamante 05:53 PM 08-27-2013

If I remember correctly, it is a Simpson HTP37 plate.   It is a 3" x 7" plate with a bunch of holes to put screws through.

 

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-R-Tie-Plate-TP37/100375215#.Uh07WhukpKI


BllDo's Avatar BllDo 07:34 PM 08-27-2013
So you're putting up a screen wall in front of your baffle wall?
RossoDiamante's Avatar RossoDiamante 07:37 PM 08-27-2013

Yep.  Pretty much has to be that way given the in-wall speakers I'm using.  Just like the movie theater!


Spaceman's Avatar Spaceman 07:41 PM 08-27-2013
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If I remember correctly, it is a Simpson HTP37 plate.   It is a 3" x 7" plate with a bunch of holes to put screws through.

Wouldn't it need to be an angle bracket or were you thinking of just slapping that plate across the front face (facing into the room)? I guess I was picturing something behind the horizontal piece.
BllDo's Avatar BllDo 07:50 PM 08-27-2013
Why not just secure blocking to your baffle wall and hang your screen on that?
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Just like the movie theater!

Really?
RossoDiamante's Avatar RossoDiamante 04:26 AM 08-28-2013
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Wouldn't it need to be an angle bracket or were you thinking of just slapping that plate across the front face (facing into the room)? I guess I was picturing something behind the horizontal piece.

 

Actually I was just planning on slapping that plate across the back face (facing the baffle wall), but same idea.  Worst case scenario, I could put an angled piece underneath the horizontal piece and brace it to the vertical piece.  But neither the screen nor the wood is that hefty.


RossoDiamante's Avatar RossoDiamante 04:35 AM 08-28-2013
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

Why not just secure blocking to your baffle wall and hang your screen on that?
Really?

 

Sort of like this from THX:

 

 

Or this setup:

 

 

The idea of a separate wall structure is to provide several inches between the speakers and the back of the screen per the screen manufacturer's recommendations.  Although the minimum seems to be a couple of inches, I've heard up to about 6" recommended.  Mine will fall somewhere in that range.  An interesting thought about securing directly to the baffle wall, however.  It might work if you had a square area to work with.  But my angled walls leave me with a narrower width on the baffle wall than the screen itself.


chriscmore's Avatar chriscmore 03:21 PM 08-29-2013
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Originally Posted by RossoDiamante View Post

Sort of like this from THX:




Or this setup:




The idea of a separate wall structure is to provide several inches between the speakers and the back of the screen per the screen manufacturer's recommendations.  Although the minimum seems to be a couple of inches, I've heard up to about 6" recommended.  Mine will fall somewhere in that range.  An interesting thought about securing directly to the baffle wall, however.  It might work if you had a square area to work with.  But my angled walls leave me with a narrower width on the baffle wall than the screen itself.

The better, more acoustically transparent the screen, the less distance between the screen to speakers is needed. We can hang right over in-walls with about one inch effective clearance.

Cheers,
Chris
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