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Where can I buy the mounting brackets or 'zbar'. Is it better to use z or j style brackets? A link would be great, I'm having trouble finding it.
Both Home Depot and Lowes have a few different sizes, You can buy a long one and cut it. They are on Amazon too.

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Both Home Depot and Lowes have a few different sizes, You can buy a long one and cut it. They are on Amazon too.

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Thanks again! So if you buy the french cleat one on amazon you only use the one side of it correct? You don't attach other side to the screen do you?

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most screens come with cleats, correct you only need one side with most extruded screen frames
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This looks incredible! My dream, wish I could afford it!
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Update, I did swap out the blocking



Hey Big do you use screws in the crossbeam and block to secure it in place? Or does the crossbeam just rest on the block?
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it is screwed as well, the blocking pretty much holds it in place while I do the screwing and later just makes it even more secure.
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This looks incredible! My dream, wish I could afford it!
I assume you saw the picture with the speakers raised on stands and the 8 subwoofers.
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I assume you saw the picture with the speakers raised on stands and the 8 subwoofers.
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this picture should only be viewed if you are wearing a bib to protect your shirt from the drool, then consider that there are 8 matching subs along the back wall and you get the idea.

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@BIGmouthinDC - I didn't have a bib on, and I was not ready for that pic. Wow! One quick question, what's the benefit of having a stage? Purely aesthetics?

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In this case purely aesthetics, but we did make it a bass absorber and it helps elevate the speakers to the correct height, the project has a thread, the White Oaks theater. The subs are DIY by the homeowner

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When I looked into the flame, this is what I saw.



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this picture should only be viewed if you are wearing a bib to protect your shirt from the drool, then consider that there are 8 matching subs along the back wall and you get the idea.

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Sixteen 18" subs? I am putting two 18" subs and two SVS 12s into my HT. I feel woefully inadequate. Maybe I need to add a few more 18" subs. Hmmm...
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Both Home Depot and Lowes have a few different sizes, You can buy a long one and cut it. They are on Amazon too.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/OOK-Hangm...5312/202341625

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One more question for you Jeff. With these Z bar hangers do you use both pieces in the pack? The one piece has the channel in it for the little level, can you use both pieces?
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One more question for you Jeff. With these Z bar hangers do you use both pieces in the pack? The one piece has the channel in it for the little level, can you use both pieces?
There are two pieces, one attaches to the screen frame, the other attaches to the wall. Level the one on the wall.

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There are two pieces, one attaches to the screen frame, the other attaches to the wall. Level the one on the wall.
Assuming I won't need to attach one to the screen frame as it will be aluminum, I'm wondering if both pieces can be used on the screen wall side, or if only one of the pieces in the kit will work. Does the center channel for the level get in the way? These are the two pieces I'm talking about:
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you'll have to check with your screen frame to make sure that channel doesn't get in the way.
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Has anyone successfully built a minimalist screen wall without a stage or floor to attach the posts to? I do not have a stage and only carpet over concrete for a floor. My wall is not that big, 12' wide 7.5' high, I was thinking of just letting the posts rest on the carpet or perhaps use speaker spikes on the bottom to keep the posts off of the carpet and in place. i don't have small children that would be running into the wall.

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There isn't any reason your plan shouldn't work.
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Has anyone successfully built a minimalist screen wall without a stage or floor to attach the posts to? I do not have a stage and only carpet over concrete for a floor. My wall is not that big, 12' wide 7.5' high, I was thinking of just letting the posts rest on the carpet or perhaps use speaker spikes on the bottom to keep the posts off of the carpet and in place. i don't have small children that would be running into the wall.

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My posts aren't attached at the base, but I think I ran a few screws into the drywall at top. They are a tight fit, so, I think I compressed the carpet/ pad down a little to get it vertical.
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@BIGmouthinDC - I was initially planning on building a baffle wall and a minimalist goal post (like your design) in front of the baffle wall. However, considering that my speaker designer suggested having my speakers as close to the screen as possible, do you think it would work to combine the baffle wall and the false wall?

I'm planning on doing a sketch, but essentially, instead of the two support posts, I'd have 6 floor to ceiling posts with my LCR speakers in between each pair of posts. I'd still do the cross post (with Z hangers to hang the screen and with mid supports). I'd then attach acoustic treatment panels for the baffle wall similar to how you attached the frames with GOM fabric. However, I'd wrap the acoustic treatment panels in the black GOM fabric.

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baffle walls should be sturdy rigid structures, the front face should be solid with multiple damped layer construction, the front surface of the baffle should have at least one inch of a material like Linacoustic. You can add furring on the front surface to hold the screen z clips and fabric panels as necessary. Forget about trying to mimic the minimalist goal post and just build a sturdy baffle wall.

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Thanks, Big. I was planning on doing a proper baffle wall, just without drywall being used on the baffle wall. The area behind the baffle wall would be drywalled of course. Perhaps my question should've been "Can I just affix the screen with Z hangers to the baffle wall?"

Alternatively, I picked up 5/4" primed pine. It's not finger joint pine, but it's straight (at least now). I found 1" (really 3/4") finger joint poplar which I plan to use as the cross post. Looks like I may just do a minimalist screen wall in front of the baffle wall. Poplar should be stronger than pine (but slightly pricier).
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A baffle wall without the baffle (drywall) is just a speaker stand. Now I understand your vision. Yes, you can attach the screen and fabric panels to your speaker stands
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A baffle wall without the baffle (drywall) is just a speaker stand. Now I understand your vision. Yes, you can attach the screen and fabric panels to your speaker stands
Hmm... I thought drywall want necessary. I was planning on using MDF as the baffle. I guess I can switch it to drywall if needed. The speakers would back up to the double firecode drywall that has GG between. If I switch the baffle to drywall, should the entire speaker except the front/baffle be surrounded by drywall?
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drywall = MDF from a baffle wall perspective. proceed. it sounded like you weren't using anything.
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To have a false screen wall, minimal or not, it's pretty much a requirement to have 1 layer of osb if you are using rsic + hat channel, correct?
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Incorrect, why? I don't have OSB on my ceiling.
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