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Can someone point me to a list of "Design Specialists" here on the AVS Forum? I am in need of some expert advice specific to my theater room planning. THanks!
Sure, give me a shout. skbyrne@sbcglobal.net

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Can someone point me to a list of "Design Specialists" here on the AVS Forum? I am in need of some expert advice specific to my theater room planning. THanks!
I am just north of Chicago and would lover to talk to a local design specialist as well.
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I was just coming here to post the EXACT same thing..like chinaclipper, I actually had a local "designer" (read: sales guy at an electronics store masquerading as a real designer) quote me $1,000..also for DRAWINGS. And, his initial drawings..well, let's just say they were so wrong as to not even be in the ballpark. Fortunately, I never hired him based on his draft and all around lack of confidence that he knew DIDDLY about what he was doing.<br><br>
Unless you have HUNDREDS (and I mean HUNDREDS!) of "free hours" to spend reading, researching, analyzing, and all around tearing your hair out, I'd HIGHLY recommend hiring one of the experienced HT design people here on AVS FROM THE GET GO. Don't even TRY to DIY on the design unless you just have a ton of free time on your hands and a twisted interest/obsession to spend every night, every weekend, every free minute for the next 12-24 months obsessing over a project..<br><br>
This stuff can get reasonably complicated and hard to get "right". There is absolutely no substitute for experience and knowledge.<br><br>
I've pulled in some professional help at the tail end of my project here, but could have saved literally half a year if I'd done that earlier!<br><br>
With that said, I'm &lt; a month to construction, but it's been a real.. process.
I'd love to see a home theatre that took several years of planning

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I don't think it's the actual planning per se. More like the learning of how before the planning. That can take awhile.
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I am not even done yet and if I had it to do over again.................


I would have done it 20 years sooner !
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What would I have done differently, go DIY for speakers and subs right away. I spent a lot of money doing everything twice, but am happy now with the results. Diysound group makes it so easy to diy and I love their products. Also, when I built the room in my basement I had no idea where this hobby would take me. So I didn't sound proof anything. It would have been nice to do so even if just for a tighter room with less rattles. Cool thread. I like to see everyone's work.
Can you tell my why the DIY direction was better than buying pre made?
I just started looking for equipment for the new house I am building and wondering if I should also go this route. Did you save a lot of money?
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You save a lot of money.
You invest a lot of time.
Usually, it works out well, but you need skill, tools and patience.
Of course, if YOU'RE building your house, you'll probably be okay.

LOTS of diy advice available around here, especially for subs, which are pretty straight-forward.

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https://www.parts-express.com/cat/su...ystem-kits/287

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What would I have done differently, go DIY for speakers and subs right away. I spent a lot of money doing everything twice, but am happy now with the results. Diysound group makes it so easy to diy and I love their products. Also, when I built the room in my basement I had no idea where this hobby would take me. So I didn't sound proof anything. It would have been nice to do so even if just for a tighter room with less rattles. Cool thread. I like to see everyone's work.
Can you tell my why the DIY direction was better than buying pre made?
I just started looking for equipment for the new house I am building and wondering if I should also go this route. Did you save a lot of money?
I have a system now that performs better then what I could afford to get from a commercial company by a lot. Especially with subs, I paid 2600 for two SVS subs, that sounded great, but for that money I now have 4 18's I built myself. That's for drivers, amps, and mdf. Yes there big and ugly. That's the trade off. But the sound can't be beat for the cost.
Same with main speakers and surrounds. You pay for a pretty box, the facility and people who build them, and a brand name. Building kits from Diysg with flat packs is easy, you can finish them as nice as you want, and they sound fantastic.
These are just my opinion and experience. I personally wouldn't do anything different now. I love my setup.
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I have a system now that performs better then what I could afford to get from a commercial company by a lot. Especially with subs, I paid 2600 for two SVS subs, that sounded great, but for that money I now have 4 18's I built myself. That's for drivers, amps, and mdf. Yes there big and ugly. That's the trade off. But the sound can't be beat for the cost.
Same with main speakers and surrounds. You pay for a pretty box, the facility and people who build them, and a brand name. Building kits from Diysg with flat packs is easy, you can finish them as nice as you want, and they sound fantastic.
These are just my opinion and experience. I personally wouldn't do anything different now. I love my setup.
I suppose if I put them behind the screen they would work great. Is there soldering involved or just plug and play for the electronics part?
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Agreed, I would go all DIY speakers and subs. I've already put the numbers into spreadsheets, and I could get a nice jump up in quality of sound (and I REALLY like my current setups) and output capability. Not that I would max it out, but just for more overhead before coming close to max capacity. In the end, it came out to be almost an exact wash in cost, but the capabilities would be a LOT higher.

Then again, I've built some speakers in the past, built 3 car subs, 2 home theater subs (one that I just built 2 years ago and still use today), so building isn't a problem.

I just didn't know any better, nor did I have the options that people have today via places like the DIY Sound Group to make things even easier.

Without checking my spreadsheet, I believe that the system would be 3 Elusive 1099s for LCR, Volt 10s for surround and Atmos, plus four 3cuft 15" subs (yeah, I could go 18", but still). That is what I would do next time.
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I have a system now that performs better then what I could afford to get from a commercial company by a lot. Especially with subs, I paid 2600 for two SVS subs, that sounded great, but for that money I now have 4 18's I built myself. That's for drivers, amps, and mdf. Yes there big and ugly. That's the trade off. But the sound can't be beat for the cost.
Same with main speakers and surrounds. You pay for a pretty box, the facility and people who build them, and a brand name. Building kits from Diysg with flat packs is easy, you can finish them as nice as you want, and they sound fantastic.
These are just my opinion and experience. I personally wouldn't do anything different now. I love my setup.
I suppose if I put them behind the screen they would work great. Is there soldering involved or just plug and play for the electronics part?
There is soldiering involved, but members will do your crossovers for you if you need help. The pcb's in some kits make it nearly fool proof. I knew nothing at all about it, but mine were easy. Placing DIY speakers behind a screen is ideal. No fancy finishing.
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I would have added a return air duct from my theater to my AC. My basement and theater room only has one cold air supply and no return. With all the heat the AV equipment makes without adding the 600 btus per person it used to get uncomfortably warm and sometimes downright hot.

Ive since added a portable air conditioner for summers, and i used a duct booster inline with some flex duct and made an exhaust fan above my stereo equipment at ceiling height to remove the heat of both the PJ and everything else. The exhaust fan though only about 200 cfm works well, and in winter i can crack a windo and it acts as an attic fan for the theater.

I doubled up on my insulation for sound and didnt think about it trapping all the heat in here as well.

As far as diy speakers go, its something im considering. Since i have a 2' walkway behind my screen which leads to the back of all my stereo equipment, im seriously considering cutting the area of the painted screen out and doing a diy AT screen and making new speakers for behind the screen, i need a 3rd sub too lol, im thinking car sub this time.
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i need a 3rd sub too lol, im thinking car sub this time.
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There is soldiering involved, but members will do your crossovers for you if you need help.
That would be Matt (mtg90), among others, I'm sure. But he did mine.
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No, for reasons you'll get by the dozens when the time comes.
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Well, bout an hour after i posted this the power supply in my PJ burned up....already found a bad IC on one of the circuit boards.....so, no subs will be built anytime soon now lol.... sigh
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5) I would skip the 'screen lights', right in front of my screen...
how come?
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how come?
I frankly just don't use them... I would have preferred being able to put up some black velvet on the ceiling above the screen. The reflections on my ceiling aren't real noticeable, but would have been less with the black velvet.

Saving the time & money to install something I don't use, would have been fine with me!
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I think i would have skipped the back row. In 10 years its been used maybe 4 times. Those seats look brand new back there with no butt prints!
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I frankly just don't use them... I would have preferred being able to put up some black velvet on the ceiling above the screen. The reflections on my ceiling aren't real noticeable, but would have been less with the black velvet.

Saving the time & money to install something I don't use, would have been fine with me!
I have three lights above my screen as well, while I do like them and think they are needed to add more light to the room when I need to see stuff, I think you could still put up velvet to cover up 99% of the area, minus the 3-4 holes for lights. I have been thinking about doing just that, but its not really a bid deal to me right now.
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Quick question guys on My soon to be theater room.The room is 13x22x8,The 13' wall will be the front.All walls are smooth for now except the right wall has a 7'x12' long shelving system pushed up against the front wall.Do you feel the shelving will affect the front sound stage? Sorry can't post pics yet🤔
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I could potentially disassemble the shelving and move it to the back of the room and try to use it for some sound defusing and hold my back surround speakers but would rather not.Your thoughts would be very appropriated👍
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I could potentially disassemble the shelving and move it to the back of the room and try to use it for some sound defusing and hold my back surround speakers but would rather not.Your thoughts would be very appropriated👍
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Maybe not. Perhaps this individual has invented a time machine and has come from the future in an attempt to setup his theater "differently" the first time around.
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Maybe not. Perhaps this individual has invented a time machine and has come from the future in an attempt to setup his theater "differently" the first time around.
I am still such a novice in terms of how much I still have to learn about building a theater, but there is a guy at work who's just starting to build his basement theater and told me all of his ideas. Double front speakers, car subwoofers, ect. I told him to read the build threads and this thread and that if no one here is doing it, there's a good reason. I told him if there's a great looking/sounding way to do things for cheap someone on this forum has likely found it. It's incredible how much time and money can be saved by time spent reading here. He says he's a member here so hopefully he's doing his homework.
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