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Alright this is my second attempt at a home theater, my last one was 3 years ago in my old house. I was very happy with it, but this time I can start from scratch. In other words, I have an unfinished (Or unspoiled Basement).

I've read through tonnes of posts here, along with most of the thread on "What I'd do next time"

I'm aiming for 2 rows of seating with a riser for the second row, and I also have a $10,000 budget, but that will include the projector, which right now looks like it's going to be a BenQ W500 or an Optima HD80. I may go with something else. Don't really want to buy that yet as I'll never get the basement finished if I do.


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Well I've taken measurments, and learned to use Google SketchUp. So here goes, I've also never posted pictures here before so we'll see how that works out.
Can someone tell me how to put the picture in the messaqge instaed of as a link?
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Now my question is, will having a wall only block half of the back of the room cause audio problems.
That wall is 21' from the front.
The room is 15' wide
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The quote to get the basement finished should be coming in today.
I'm still debating on the projector I want. My current choises are the Optoma HD80, and three Benq models, w500, w9000, w10000.
My last home theater, I had gone with a benq DLP projector because, back in those days DLP had a nicer picture.
Is that still the case? Would I like the HD80 better than the W500, or W10000?
Unfortunatly I live in an area where I can't seem to find a local dealer for either of them so I can't really compare them.
Any suggestions?

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Check out http://www.projectorcentral.com

Personally I would go for the Optoma HD81, it got really good reviews. I have the HD72 right now and love it and thinking about upgrading at some point after I finish my home theater as well.

I took a look at your sketcup photos. Looks good. For future reference just use the insert image button when posting images to make them apear in the thred. Or just put "[img]http://www.site/YOURPIC.jg[img]" without the quotes. A good site to through some pics up on would be www.photobucket.com

As for room size check out Sepmeyer's 3 Golden Room Ratios for Home theater. 21'x15' might be ok. My room is going to be 22'x12 and there isnt anything else I can do about it.

Hope this helps out a little bit.
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the trailing label needs to be [/IMG]

not [IMG]
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the trailing label needs to be [/IMG]
not [IMG]

Photobucket is your friend. You can upload all your images as is for free. They will resize automatically.

Then in album view they will show 4 alternative image tags simply click on the bottom one, their system knows that that means copy to clipboard. Then simply go to the test of your post. Right click and select paste. Everything else is automatic.
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Third link in my sig might help you inbed your images.

The wall near the seating will lessen the surround sound for the second row. Make the front row the sweet spot, and let the chips fall where they may in the second.

What are you doing in that space behind the second row? How big is it? Could almost be a projection room/equipment room/dvd storage space. Just a thought.
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Yes, that is my question as well. It looks like you have items there without a method to get to them. That space would be ideal for equipment, etc.

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The sapce houses my Hot water heater as well as my air exchanger. I was going to put a wet bar right outside the wall by the hotwater heater.
Unfortunatly with all the projectors I'm looking at, this would be too far back to produce a proper size image for my seating locations, the image would be way to big, Though it is a great idea.

As for the HD81, it's over $6000 everywhere I look while I can get the HD80 for as low as $2350. I agree the 81 is a better unit, but I simply can't afford that much for a projector.
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I've gotten the quote to finish the basement and I'm happy it's coming in almost $4000 less than I expected. ( I just moved from Edmonton where labor rates are more than double what they are here in New Brunswick).
The projector will be ordered later today. Panasonic AX200.

My next question is what, and how I should run cable to the projector. I'm getting a drywalled ceiling so once it's done getting new cables up will be a pain.

I plan on running HDMI, Component, S-Video, and Composite. Is there anything else I should run?

I was hoping to run some large PVC tubing up to where the project will be, that way if I need something else, or need to replace a cable in the future, it shouldn't be a problem.

Any suggestions as to what I should run for conduit? Will PVC tubing be good?
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I just had the electritian over and I think we now have everything covered.
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My projector arrives this morning, I went with the panasonic ax-200. Bought it through the US as it's more than a $1000 cheaper than if I bought the canadian version.
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Hopefully someone here has experience with video distribution.
I have a Bell Expressvue PVR Dual Tuner Sat Receiver currently connected to my LCD TV in the living room.
My HT will be in the basement. I'd like to share the HDMI video out of the SAT receiver with both my projector and the LCD TV in the living room.
Would a device such as this work?

I understand I'd have to watch the same program on both TVs, which is fine as I'll either be watching one or the other.

Is there a HDMI distributor that's cheaper and better?

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I believe I'll need to run cat5 and HDMI from the living room to the wireing closet in the basement. The HDMI will connect to an HDMI distribution box and the cat5 will be used for IR transmission.
Like I've drawn out in the attached picture.
Can anyone confirm this?
PS: I'd embed the pictures, but unfortunatly I'm at work and photobucket is blocked.
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That looks workable to me. But whenever trying something like that I usually try to set it all up in one room first, get it working, then distribute the components....
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Well it's been a while since my last update, but the construction guys have finally started. I figured this was a good time to post some pictures.
Here are the pictures before the framing:




And here it is after the framing is done:




If you have any questions or suggestions, please feel free to ask or suggest

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Just out of curiosity, why did you use 2x4's running perpindicular to your trusses for the ceiling? I would think the floor truss would provide plenty of surface structure for drywall especially with the truss cross bracing. I have the same type of trusses and I wouldn't want to lose even a 1 1/2" of ceiling height.

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They are actually 1X4. And it makes it easier to install the drywall on the ceiling as you have more area to secure to, as well it's supposed to make everything move less so you don't get cracks in the drywall. Or at least thats what I was told.
The ceiling is 8' so I should have enough space.
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Hopefully someone here has experience with video distribution.
I have a Bell Expressvue PVR Dual Tuner Sat Receiver currently connected to my LCD TV in the living room.
My HT will be in the basement. I'd like to share the HDMI video out of the SAT receiver with both my projector and the LCD TV in the living room.
Would a device such as this work?

I understand I'd have to watch the same program on both TVs, which is fine as I'll either be watching one or the other.

Is there a HDMI distributor that's cheaper and better?

Thanks

I use this one
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
it is reliable if you keep the HDMI runs less than 50ft. I share one Sat. box with a bedroom and kitchen tv. An RF remote would be much more beneficial for you.

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So what happens when your devices have 2 different resolutions?
The TV I have in the livingroom only does 1080i, while the projector does 1080p.
I'm assuming that it falls back to the lowest resolution, is that right?
If you wanted the higher resoltuion, would you be able to turn off the TV and only have the projector on and have it get it's settings from there?

Any recomendations for an RF remote?

And one last thing, I'm looking at getting the Denon 3808 receiver, has anyone had experience with this unit?
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It's been a while since I updated this thread. We've finished drywalling, mudding, taping, and painting.

Here we've started painting the ceiling.


This is a sample of the carpet being installed tomorrow


And now with the ceiling completed, you can see the projector shelf attached to the ceiling.


This is how I tested the shelf. I figured if it could hold a full can of paint over night I was good to go.
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And a few days latter, we now have the walls painted.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...r/DSC_1077.jpg

Here you can see the painted projector shelf on the ceiling, and in the center on the wall is where my equipment rack will be. It's under the stairs that lead to the basement.


And some close up



And last but not least.... The screen.


And as I mentioned before, the carpet gets installed tomorrow, and the seats are being delivered on Tuesday. Until then.. Here's one last picture of my new Denon 3808 receiver:



I'll post some more follow ups on Wednesday
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