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I would like to thank everyone here in the forum. I have been researching for months and could continue for years through all this great info. Thanks and I hope the help continues now that I am starting my thread. OK, OK, on with the project.

My Basement has aprox. 1100sf of living space. I am designating a workout area, bar area, and a media room.

The plan I uploaded here has been modified slightly in the media room. I decided to bump out the entrance way to the media room instead of having a plain rectangular room. For now the room will be designated as a theater room, however it may be a bedroom at one point.

The room is standard 2x4 construction. No offset of the 2x4's.
I plan on double drywall with Green Glue.
Thickest insulation I can fit will be installed.
I plan on many lighting features throughout. I am an electrician by trade
I have made an opening for components to be recessed in the utility room (wiring closet)

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My planned room dimensions (19x16) are almost the same as yours (19x15). I'll be watching your build closely. How many seats do you plan for each row?

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I just right clicked one of your pics and copied the link surrounded by ]img]...[/img]

I like Photobucket better than flickr.
open free account, upload images as is no downsizing required.
copy the link that looks like ]img]blah blah blah[/img] into the text of a post and you are done.
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BigmouthinDC,

You da Man. Thanks again for your help. I will update more tonight.
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Audixium,

Thanks for the post. I will update in more detail as the days go by. I haven't yet determined if I am going to install row seating. Keep in touch.
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Here are the framed dimensions of the theater room. I plan on using a 4' French Door at the entrance. The media components window is framed 48" x 22". I will continue to work on a couple of other drawings to detail the ceiling.


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Why French doors? I know they look nice but tough to keep the sound in

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Scott,

The look at this point is overriding the sound factor. I will install door "window" treatments to help with the sound while theater is in use.

Open to alternatives, but the solid doors doesn't appeal to the boss aka the wife.

Thank you for your input.
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Just a reminder. That utility room will probably require venting to an adjacent space and you will not want it vented into the theater room for noise reasons.
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The boss will probably change her mind once you are down there cranking up the subs and you are bothering her

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Thanks DC,

I will be venting it outside of theater room into the Bar area.
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Haven't had too much time to work on the project. The rough plumbing is complete. I am cleaning out the theater room of all the storage to get ready to start work in there.

I will be posting some pics of the theater room soon. Some questions I will be asking are:

With the layout of the room do you think I should do theater seating with a riser?

Also, I don't think I'll be able to do 7.1 surround?? With the layout of the room I don't think it's possible?

Hope to hear some input. Thanks!

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Here is a picture looking into the theater room from the doorway. Notice how I had to soffit down where the steel beam is and where the main HVAC trunks are located.



Here is another angle of the soffit. No, that is not my actual screen size. Just a piece of cardboard I had laying around to distinguish the screen wall.


Another angle of the ceiling framing.



I wanted for forum viewers to get a feel of the space I am working with. I hope to get some ideas on additional framing features. Obviously the room is not a perfect square or rectangle. The ceiling is much lower where the screen will be. Does this hinder installing a riser with theater style seating? Also, I am a bit worried on speaker layout with my room. At least the speakers in the rear of the room.

I think I will be going with a plasma. I don't think I will be able to a projector with this room??

Thanks, I hope to hear some feedback.

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Mike, whats the projected finished height under the soffit? It might be too low for a screen wall. Then again, if you do a 180, the riser might be too high under soffit.

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I think I see about 3-4 inches of wasted space in that soffit design it you want to gain some space.

I would have used sheets of 3/4 inch plywood instead of those 2x3s
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Bud,

The aprox. finished ceiling height where the TV would go is about 7'. I have thought of the 180 myself and I agree with you that a riser would not work in that scenario.

Do you think a small riser would be OK with the current layout? The ceiling height in the seating area would be aprox 8.3'.

At this point I think I am going to hang a plasma. I agree with you, not enough room for a projector and screen setup. That's OK with me.

Thank you for the input.
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BigmouthinDC,

Disclaimer, "I'm an electrician, not a magician" Which means, limited framing experience.

Just to clarify so I understand your suggestion.
I used 2x4's across for the ceiling where the TV will be, I ripped 2x4's in 1/2 to build the ladder going along the steel beam. I'm not sure where you are suggesting I should have used 3/4" plywood??

Again, I am pondering all suggestions. I still can make changes to the framing!!

Now, I went back and forth with the decision to run the 2X4 ceiling joists flat rather than the way they are (TV area). Which would gain a little more room. However, I felt it would make the ceiling wavey over time? I hope you know what I am trying to explain.

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Plasma should be fine, I think front projection would work, the screen would be only 3 feet of the ground roughly and point eye level at around mid-screen.

A riser would work in your current setup then.

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Plasma should be fine, I think front projection would work, the screen would be only 3 feet of the ground roughly and point eye level at around mid-screen.

A riser would work in your current setup then.

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I think I am locked in on hanging a plasma while staying with the current layout. Yeah, I think the riser will work too. I started reading through the riser build thread. The "boss" and I originally were going with a large sectional with recliners. We'll see what she say's about theater seating.
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Currently planning out the custom bar. I want to lock in the layout of the bar to help move along with my electrical/ lighting plan. I will be using purchased bar plans to assist me in the bar construction. Once I have a final rendering I will post it.

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Theater room only:

Is it recommended that I use rigid insulation on the concrete walls in addition to the normal R-13 R-19 batts? Is this Overkill? I have the room to put both materials if needed.

Double drywall with gg will be installed as well.

Thank you for your feedback.
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Sounds like to much insulation to me. I would use the normal ones yes. My contractor was explaining to me that to much would be a bad idea.
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Back to the doors for a second. As was mentioned, French doors make things harder for sound isolation. But more importantly, I think you need to have the door(s) open the other direction so that you have more room in the theater. That will depend on if you have a riser in the back and steps, etc. As long as there is room, opening inward is more standard. However, from your initial sketch it may be too tight opening inward.
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Sounds like to much insulation to me. I would use the normal ones yes. My contractor was explaining to me that to much would be a bad idea.

Thank you Steve. I think I read somewhere that a little space between the insulation and the concrete does not hinder anything, including sound isolation?
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Back to the doors for a second. As was mentioned, French doors make things harder for sound isolation. But more importantly, I think you need to have the door(s) open the other direction so that you have more room in the theater. That will depend on if you have a riser in the back and steps, etc. As long as there is room, opening inward is more standard. However, from your initial sketch it may be too tight opening inward.

Yes I know about the french doors hindering the sound isolation. I will do my best with treatments on the inside of the doors. I assume you looked at my 2nd drawing where I bumped out the doorway about 4ft from the original plan. Having the doors swing out is a possibility, I will definitely re-think that. Thanks for your input.

If not french doors, what would your suggestion on the doors be? Solid Core double doors I assume?
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Thank you Steve. I think I read somewhere that a little space between the insulation and the concrete does not hinder anything, including sound isolation?

While it may seem strange, I was told that when dealing with concrete space helps the sound and keep the room a better environment. The more mass = more conductor for sound and heat. If this is wrong I would really like to know. I can understand how some air helps however I am just not sure how insulation conducts it.
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Steve are you a Mizzou fan? Tiger Football is pretty good this year. They should win the the Big 12, hopefully.

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Steve are you a Mizzou fan? Tiger Football is pretty good this year. They should win the the Big 12, hopefully.

Thanks.

Yep a pretty big fan. My mother has worked there over 30 years and I went to college there. My uncle, a news reporter, (can be seen in the build thread introducing his DVD he made at the studio of grandma) gets to interview the players sometimes. I had kind of lost interest in watching the games since they looked like they had already won. It gets talked about around the house often. I hadn't realized they had been doing that well however. I usually get interested in the games when it is a close one. Thanks for the heads up.
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Any updates? Did you decide if the rest of the basements plan was ok? Do you own a salamander or have heat down there yet?
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