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post #301 of 332 Old 08-06-2014, 05:42 AM
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Well doing some quick numbers (I would be a little less then a year out from doing this) I could get away with what appears to be a 86 inch projection screen in the room. I'm renting the house, so big changes are obviously out of the question, but since the projector is the only real piece of equipment I need to make this happen I'm tempted. It would be great to get all of this stuff out of my living room. The Epson 3020 looks like it would work well for my needs.
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Well as an update to what I posted a few days ago, it's looking more and more like I'm going to join the ranks of having a small, but dedicated theater. A big concern I'm having is the number of speakers. Right now I'm running 7.1 in a much larger living room, when converting to such a small space does 7.1 become overwhelming?

Right now I'm looking seriously at going with a BenQ 1070 (seems to be the consensus projector pick in the under $1500 price range, plus the extra money will help convince the wife) and going with a 92 inch screen. Other then actually moving in there, removing a ceiling fan, and hanging some blackout curtains, really not that much work to be done.
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Well as an update to what I posted a few days ago, it's looking more and more like I'm going to join the ranks of having a small, but dedicated theater. A big concern I'm having is the number of speakers. Right now I'm running 7.1 in a much larger living room, when converting to such a small space does 7.1 become overwhelming?

Right now I'm looking seriously at going with a BenQ 1070 (seems to be the consensus projector pick in the under $1500 price range, plus the extra money will help convince the wife) and going with a 92 inch screen. Other then actually moving in there, removing a ceiling fan, and hanging some blackout curtains, really not that much work to be done.
I am running 7.1 in small Room and it is not overwhelming.
I am thinking of upgrade my receiver to a Dolby Atmos compatible receiver and add 4 more speakers.
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I figure between now and November (estimated theater opening is set for Thanksgiving weekend!) I'm going to be a mainstay in this thread with questions! One of the issues I'm having is that the house I'm in isn't mine (I'm renting) so I can do very minimal changes to the room and damage to the walls. The other main issue I have is that the room has a connecting wall with my baby daughters room. While I'm sure sound proofing isn't going to be easily possible is there any material out there that I could get that would at least have some sound dampening qualities?

Other question concerns the ceiling mount. I've got a popcorn ceiling in the room and want to do minimum damage to it. How much damage does a ceiling mount do while still being secure enough to hold the projector? I wish I would to in wall/ceiling wiring, but that looks like it's going to be out, so the projector is also going to require me to do a rather long power run (thankfully monoprice exists!) and HDMI run. Any ideas how to make that look a little cleaner?

My big build is still years down the road when I buy a house and can do some more in depth edits to the room itself, but for now I'm just excited about getting out of the living room!
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I figure between now and November (estimated theater opening is set for Thanksgiving weekend!) I'm going to be a mainstay in this thread with questions! One of the issues I'm having is that the house I'm in isn't mine (I'm renting) so I can do very minimal changes to the room and damage to the walls. The other main issue I have is that the room has a connecting wall with my baby daughters room. While I'm sure sound proofing isn't going to be easily possible is there any material out there that I could get that would at least have some sound dampening qualities?

Other question concerns the ceiling mount. I've got a popcorn ceiling in the room and want to do minimum damage to it. How much damage does a ceiling mount do while still being secure enough to hold the projector? I wish I would to in wall/ceiling wiring, but that looks like it's going to be out, so the projector is also going to require me to do a rather long power run (thankfully monoprice exists!) and HDMI run. Any ideas how to make that look a little cleaner?

My big build is still years down the road when I buy a house and can do some more in depth edits to the room itself, but for now I'm just excited about getting out of the living room!


A projector mount will put a couple good holes in the ceiling, nothing that can't be patched though. How big of room are you in? Can you shelf mount? Lots of options for running wires. Wire conduits aren't the prettiest but they clean things up with minimal damage.

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Room is roughly 11 X 12. The throw will be along the 12 foot wall. Right now I'm planning on buying the BenQ W1070 and am planning on a 92 inch screen. I think doing a shelf mount leaves me with too far of a throw with this projector.

Right now wire conduits are looking like what I very well may do.
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Room is roughly 11 X 12. The throw will be along the 12 foot wall. Right now I'm planning on buying the BenQ W1070 and am planning on a 92 inch screen. I think doing a shelf mount leaves me with too far of a throw with this projector.

Right now wire conduits are looking like what I very well may do.

According to the calculator on projector central an 11' throw distance with now zoom gives you 100" diag. A 10' gives you 92". You could do a painted wall on no screen or move up to 100". You will want at least about 6" behind the projector to breath. It's up to you, many choices.

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I would have no issues with a bigger screen, I arrived at 92 inches because that is the amount of room I need to for my speakers and my sub up front.
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I would have no issues with a bigger screen, I arrived at 92 inches because that is the amount of room I need to for my speakers and my sub up front.


Are you aware of the projector central website. It has a calculator for every type of projector and gives you the throw distance. If you can move up in projector class the Epson 8350 will do about anything in that room. Also, the Epson 2030 is about the same as the 1070

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Reading reviews I'm more impressed by the BenQ then the Epson, despite the higher price tag. I'm thinking I might use some white conduit and then paint them to match my walls. Not going to look great, but should be better then nothing.
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Reading reviews I'm more impressed by the BenQ then the Epson, despite the higher price tag. I'm thinking I might use some white conduit and then paint them to match my walls. Not going to look great, but should be better then nothing.
That's what I did in this pic. If you look in the corner you can barely see it. That was first room, and 11x11 setup
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Hey Allen. Not a big deal, because I think this thread was pretty much dead anyway, but I think the intention was to provide a compilation of small theater builds so people such as yourself (and me) could flip through quickly and get some ideas. Try starting a dedicated build thread to gain some ideas. I find the experts on this site just love to answer questions like the ones you are posing.

While I am posting anyway:

I am using the BenQ W1070 in a small room laying upside down on a shelf mounted to the rear wall. You are right that the BenQ wants to shoot larger than 92" from that distance, but remember that the throw is from the lens so it is pretty close. The bigger issue with shelf mounting these DLP's is that they weren't designed to lay on their heads. I had to get creative with a stand on-top of the shelf to make it work. Now that it is in it works great. One major benefit is that I get zero jitter in the image, even when the kids are jumping on the floor above, because the wall doesn't flex. Anyway, just food for thought.
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Here is my build. It's 20X10X8 so a pretty small room for sure. Still finishing up the last few small things and then some better pics will be up.

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Hi Guys - here's my small theater...converted a guest bedroom into my mancave/theater room. 10x14 with vaulted ceilings. Painted the walls black and applied black foam panels to the ceiling to reduce reflected light & glare. Epson 2000 PJ to a 118" Carls DIY cloth screen and Samsung 5.1 Surround. Dual reclining loveseat that's 10' back from screen. My first attempt at making a theater room and now I'm hooked!
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This is a 10x16x7 room. Latest upgrade was an Oppo Bdp-103d.
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Anyone with builds with a lower ceiling? My room is about 16x14 with 7" ceiling.
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This thread gave me a lot of inspiration that I could have a serviceable theater in my small space so I want to give back now that it is complete.

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  • Room dimensions are 12’ 1” x 15’ 3” drywall to dry wall (at the widest point).
  • With treatments it is 11’ 10.5” left to right and 14’ 10.5” from back wall to screen or 15’ 1.75” to screen wall (the screen is off the front wall some 3 inches or so).
  • Screen size is 120” diagonal, 2.35:1
  • First row eyes reclined is 9’ give or take an inch or two depending on occupant height.
  • Second row eyes reclined about 14’ 4” give or take
  • Riser depth 6’
  • Riser height 9.75” (I intend to raise the chairs another 1-2 inches as short people have an obstructed view if the front seats aren’t reclined slightly (ideal height for the riser would have been 12” if I had the ceiling height to accommodate it.


Ideally I’d like another foot of riser depth and 2-3 inches of riser height and if I had the money the relocation of the main HVAC lines outside the theater. Riser to soffit height is only 5’ 7”. If I were to build a new theater in the future I’d make sure I had a space at least 13’ x 20’ to accommodate two rows and a false front wall.

Overall I’m pleased with the results given the limitations I had to work with.





This looks really amazing! That is about the size I have, with the same soffit on the left (I assume that is HVAC?). How annoying is that when you are sitting in the back seat?
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This looks really amazing! That is about the size I have, with the same soffit on the left (I assume that is HVAC?). How annoying is that when you are sitting in the back seat?
The only seat impacted is the one under the soffit, I have to bend just slightly if I'm heading to the back row (usually just for vacuuming) but then I'm only 5' 8".

The soffit has the main HVAC trunk and support beam for the house. Ideally re-locating the trunk outside of the room would have been better but the $$$ wasn't there for it.

I'd caution about two rows if you are thinking that as it is tight. One row of four would probably have been the better idea.
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The only seat impacted is the one under the soffit, I have to bend just slightly if I'm heading to the back row (usually just for vacuuming) but then I'm only 5' 8".

The soffit has the main HVAC trunk and support beam for the house. Ideally re-locating the trunk outside of the room would have been better but the $$$ wasn't there for it.

I'd caution about two rows if you are thinking that as it is tight. One row of four would probably have been the better idea.
Ya, I am going to have to wait until I rip everything out before I can see about moving mine as well. Chances are I won't be.

In what way is it tight for you? Between the seats? I assume there is also not a lot of room between the back wall seats?
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Ya, I am going to have to wait until I rip everything out before I can see about moving mine as well. Chances are I won't be.

In what way is it tight for you? Between the seats? I assume there is also not a lot of room between the back wall seats?
The riser is 6' and really should be 7'. Six feet puts the first row only 9' from the screen; which I don't mind but might be too close for some. For movies like Cloverfield with a lot of shaky camera work I'd opt to sit in the back row. I like the full field of view immersion.

The seats in the second row are about 8" from the back wall, just enough to fully recline and clear the rear wall treatments.

The other issue with two rows, low ceiling and a short room depth is viewing from the 2nd row. If on the rare occasion I'm going to watch from the second row (say for a kids movie and the kids are up front) the front row needs to recline a little or the screen is slightly obscured. My riser is 9' or so high.

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The riser is 6' and really should be 7'. Six feet puts the first row only 9' from the screen; which I don't mind but might be too close for some. For movies like Cloverfield with a lot of shaky camera work I'd opt to sit in the back row. I like the full field of view immersion.

The seats in the second row are about 8" from the back wall, just enough to fully recline and clear the rear wall treatments.

The other issue with two rows, low ceiling and a short room depth is viewing from the 2nd row. If on the rare occasion I'm going to watch from the second row (say for a kids movie and the kids are up front) the front row needs to recline a little or the screen is slightly obscured. My riser is 9' or so high.
Makes sense. I am kind of thinking of doing a 4-5' riser now. Front row will be recline seats and then back row will be standard movie theater seats, rocker but no recline.
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Well how things change. I started out in this thread planning on doing a small room build in about a year. Moved that date up to Thanksgiving weekend. Moved it up again and debuted my first movie in there over the weekend. I'll have some pictures in the coming days, the build is nowhere near as fancy as a lot of the ones I see on here, but it should give people an idea of what can be done in a very small room where you are limited on what changes you can make because of renting. First movie this past weekend was X-men Days of Future Past, I was very pleased with everything. I had to work on removing a major null in the 40hz region, still a bit weak there but I was able to move things around enough to clean it up. Next upgrade should be around June o next year, I plan to take the room from 7.1 to 7.1.2. I'll get some pictures up later this week!
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Wanted to throw the link up to my theater. Not as impressive as some on this site by any measure, but still better then my previous living room setup.

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Recently moved into a new house. Due to the kitchen being so large, my wife gave up the formal dining room so I want to do a micro theater in that space. It's roughly 11x11 and opens into the living room so I still want the area to flow into it and not be a complete cut off distraction. Also, due to the large windows along my back of the house, a projector would get washed out. I'm going with a 70in LED.
I want a decent 5.1 surround sound system that will do well in the small space, while not a budget bottom shelf $99 buck system, but something with good deep/rich sound for under $1000.00. Been looking at some of the HT in a box systems and wonder if they will push a decent sound and some of the separate speaker/receiver mixes also.

I'm no audiophile lol and don't plan on adding any major aesthetics to the room, just need some decent immersion sound for movies and gaming. Suggestions please!!!

BTW, first post and love this site. ( hope I posted this in the right location) It's a great wealth of knowledge and some amazing designs and ideas.
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Now that progress is well under way with my theater project, I'll post it in here too. The room is about 11'x20' with about a 92" ceiling, and I'm going for a semi-replica of one of my favorite local cinemas. It's in the basement of my condo, so even with some acoustic treatments, the sound is going to have to be kept under control.

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^looks fantastic...we have a very similar room size and color scheme

my room is 10'10" treatment to treatment x 16' x 7'10"





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Has anybody done a HT in a loft? I have a 23'x13.75'x8' room, not too sure how big of screen I'll be able to do. Also makes it kind of difficult since there are only 3 walls, and my wife doesn't want me to close it in, since she likes that it's open.
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Has anybody done a HT in a loft? I have a 23'x13.75'x8' room, not too sure how big of screen I'll be able to do. Also makes it kind of difficult since there are only 3 walls, and my wife doesn't want me to close it in, since she likes that it's open.
My room is 21x12.5x9 in back, in front it's 12. I have a 120" screen and could go bigger. Take a look at the links to see what you can do. You can still do a lot. Speaker placement will be an issue.

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