Originally Posted by Deja Vu
I compared a Samsung with the player and T.V. updated against one without the player and T.V. updated specifically looking at the bridge scene in MvA. No obvious "ghosting" with both player and T.V. updated and it looked very good. Very obvious "ghosting" with the player and T.V. that hadn't been updated. I personally think the Panny has the best 3D, but the Samsung is very good and has 2D to 3D conversion, which for some material I like. Right now it is very difficult to determine just how these T.V.s compare due to the the potential variables with respect to fw upgrades for both T.V.s and BD 3D players and so on. I think most of this will be sorted out over the next year or so.
I have the 63" Samsung C8000 plasma and the Panasonic 350 Blu-ray player. I wanted the Panasonic player's dual HDMI outputs so I wouldn't lose HD audio. I don't see any ghosting in the bridge scene with upgraded firmware (I think I'm at version 1022 now). I'm the one who pointed out the ghosting in that scene here on AVS when I noticed it on the first Samsung LED set. It's always something I look for.
There's little question in my mind that the Panasonic plasmas have the edge in black level and dark scene contrast over the Samsung plasma sets. In bright scenes, I prefer the Samsung set. The huge difference between the two technologies is 2D to 3D conversion. Samsung has it and Panasonic doesn't. That was a big mistake on Panasonic's part.
Anyone with half an eye is not going to confuse faux 3D for the real thing. When I first saw it, it bothered me so much that I thought it would be worse than useless. But, it started to grow on me, and I now find myself liking it. I could wax philosophical about why that is, and others could rip me up and down and compare it to colorizing black and white movies. None of that matters. Even when a lot of 3D becomes available, I think I'll still enjoy watching fake 3D. The simple fact is that I see things with fake 3D that I never noticed before, even in 2D material I've seen many times.
Fake 3D also helps me appreciate real 3D. I think it's somewhat similar to the way in which bad acting helps me appreciate good acting. When fake 3D fails (and it does
fail - often, and often very badly), it teaches me something about why good 3D works. And when fake 3D works, it can be remarkably effective. That's why Samsung made the right decision and Panasonic blew it. If I don't want to use conversion, I don't have to turn it on. I can't turn it on with a set that doesn't have it. Samsung was able to include it in its sets and charge less. That trumps Panasonic's advantages for me, and by a large margin.