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This is a way to get 3D working on Samsung "3D ready" 1080p DLPs. This method involves entering the service menu and updating the EDID on HDMI 3 input to allow the Mitsubishi 3DA-1 checkerboard converter to work with Samsung DLPs without using a Gefen to fake the EDID.

Mitsubishi is now selling a Samsung DLP compatible 3D adapter (3DC-100S) so this method is no longer necessary.

This is a "TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK" solution.

If you would rather not mess with your Samsung's EDID, check out this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post18968784

Checkerboard video from Directv HR21 on my HL50A650:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4CI720nDAI

Please read through this entire post before attempting to update your EDID.



Samsung 3D ready 1080p DLPs that should work using this method

HL-T5076S -

Waiting for confirmation
HL-T5676S - Confirmed working!
HL-T6176S - Confirmed working!
HL-T5087S - Confirmed working!
HL-T5687S - Confirmed working!
HL-T6187S - Confirmed working!
HL-T5089S - Confirmed working!
HL-T5689S
HL-T6189S
HL50A650 - Confirmed working!
HL56A650 - Confirmed working!
HL61A650
HL72A650 - Confirmed working!
HL61A750 - Confirmed working!
HL67A750 - Confirmed working!
HL-T7288W

What else you will need

-A PC that is capable of flashing the EDID (this depends on your video cards compatibility with PowerStrip)
-A cable to connect your PC video port to the TVs HDMI 3 input (if your PC has a vga output you may need to make a custom cable)
-PowerStrip registered version ($30 license):

http://entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm
-Monitor Asset Manager (free): http://entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm
-Mitsubishi 3DA-1 checkerboard converter or 3DC-1000 bundle Regarding PowerStrip:

The "update EDID" option is an undocumented, unsupported feature, so it's not included in the trial version. You have to pay for the registration and then E-mail EnTech your pstrip.ini file and a request for the update EDID PIN. If you ask them about the the feature before registering PowerStrip they will probably deny any such feature exists. The "update EDID" feature is not compatible with every video card, this has been the biggest problem people are having. If you have trouble with this you can try using a different video card or PC. EnTech has been very good about giving people an additional PIN at no charge.

The cable:

If your PC has an HDMI or DVI out you should be able to use a standard cable or DVI-HDMI adapter. If it only has a VGA output you will need to build a custom cable. If your laptop has a external VGA output you can try using a VGA->DVI adapter and a DVI->HDMI adapter, you will not be able to get video to the TV but other users have reported successfully flashing the EDID with those adapters.



Building a VGA to HDMI cable

You'll need to sacrifice a VGA and a HDMI cable. Cut the VGA and HDMI cables in half. Using a continuity tester find the wires that lead to "sda" and "scl" on each cable.

VGA pinout:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector

HDMI pinout:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI_connector

Solder the corresponding wires together. Solder the remaining wires in the VGA cable back together with the other half of the VGA cable. This way you can use the VGA input on your Samsung as the monitor.

Code:
VGA pin (monitor)                                       VGA pin (PC)
*<-----------------------------------video----------------------->*
10<----------------x----------------ground----------------------->10
12<-------->NC     |       -----------------------sda------------>12
15<-------->NC     |       |      ------------------scl---------->15
                   |       |      |
HDMI pin (HDMI 3)  |       |      |
17<-----------------       |      |
16<-------------------------      |
15<--------------------------------
*<-------->NC


How this works

The EDID is a 128 byte code that contains information about the supported video modes of your Samsung TV. There is also a 128 byte extension block which contains additional video info and audio configuration. An unmodified 3DA-1 will not work unless it sees a compatible Mitsubishi PnP ID. Once it sees a valid EDID it will modify the PnP ID and add some info to the extension block which will enable your source device to output a 3D signal. The majority of the EDID from your Samsung is passed unmodified to the source device. The updated EDIDs listed below contain the exact same info as your stock EDID, the only thing that has been changed is the PnP ID. The updated extension blocks have just been "rearranged" a bit to keep the 3DA-1 from corrupting the stock info when it adds the 3D info. Once the 3DA-1 receives a 3D signal it will convert it to 1080p checkerboard signal that is compatible with your Samsung.



Flashing the EDID

Connect your PC to HDMI 3 input on the TV and start moninfo. In the upper left corner under "Display IDs" you should see "SAM****" listed as real-time. This is the Plug and Play ID for your Samsung HDMI 3 input. Click on it and save it for a backup. You can use MonInfo to save the EDID as a BIN file or you can just copy and paste the "Raw data" info at the bottom of the "Asset Information" window to a text file. If you're using a laptop you should backup the EDID for your laptop's display also, it will also be listed as real-time.

You will need to either edit the EDID yourself or use a known good EDID from the list below, you should use the updated EDID for the Plug and Play ID of your Samsung's HDMI 3 input. Cut and paste the updated EDID to a text file. Cut and paste the updated extension block to a separate text file. If your PnP ID is not listed below please post the raw data from your stock EDID so I can add it to the list.

You will need to enter the service menu on your Samsung and disable write protection on the EDID. There are more details on the service menu listed below.

Now you can start up PowerStrip. Click on the sys tray icon and select options > monitor information. In the lower left corner select update EDID from the drop down menu. If it tells you it found a valid EDID EEPROM then you should click no. If it tells you it didn't find an EDID then you should click yes. You want to have it scan the bus. If it still doesn't find an EDID then you may need to try using a different video card or PC. It should tell you it found an EDID EEPROM at some port #. Click yes and select your modified EDID text file. It gives you a confirmation message, make sure it's updating the "SAM****" EDID. If it doesn't say "SAM****" click cancel, start over and choose a different port #. You don't want to accidentally flash your laptop display's EDID. Once you find the SAM**** EDID you can click yes. It will flash the EDID and tell you if it succeeded or failed. If it fails you may need to use a different video card or PC. You also need to flash the updated extension block using the same steps, this time select the text file containing the updated extension block. PowerStrip can only write 128 bytes at a time so you need to flash them separately.

Once you successfully flash both the base block of the EDID and the extension block you can check it by refreshing MonInfo(F5). It should now show "MEL****" as real-time instead of "SAM****". Turn write protection back on and get out of the service menu.

You can now connect your 3DA-1 and it should be working.

If you are for some reason flashing a different "3D ready" EDID then the 3DA-1 will need to be reset for the new EDID to take effect. The following steps were done with a DirecTV receiver. This may be overkill but I want to make sure the thing is being reset. If you don't have DirecTV you will probably be ok by just connecting the 3DA-1 to HDMI 1 or 2 and then back to HDMI 3.

1. Disconnect the power to the 3DA-1
2. Connect the 3DA-1 to HDMI 1 or 2
3. Reconnect power to the 3DA-1
4. Tune to channel 103(you will get the message saying the TV is not 3D)
5. Tune to a normal channel
6. Disconnect power to the 3DA-1
7. Connect the 3DA-1 to HDMI 3
8. Reconnect power to the 3DA-1
9. Tune to channel 103 and you should be able to get 3D

Please read through this thread before posting any questions or problems



Service Menu

WARNING: Entering the service menu can be very dangerous if you don't know what you're doing!!!

Entering the service menu will reset all settings in the user menu to factory defaults. Make notes of all your video/audio settings before entering the service menu.

To enter the service menu the TV must be powered off. Press mute-1-8-2-power on the remote. It should power on with the service menu displayed over the currently selected input.

Button operation within the service menu:

Menu/Return - Return to previous menu
Up/Down Arrow - Navigate menu
Left/Right Arrow - Increase/Decrease value, item selection
Enter - Item selection/execution
Source - Cycles through the active input sources that are connected to the TV
Power - Turn off the TV and exit the service menu


HLxxA650/750 models:

Select "EDID", select "EDID ON/OFF", set "EDID ON/OFF" to "ON". Write protection is now disabled, no further action is required to flash the EDID.

Video of the HL50A650 service menu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrPY41u_XVY

Other models:

Select "OPTION", select "DDC Protection", set "DDC Protection" to "OFF".

There are some pictures of this menu here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post19304610

There have been a few users (HT-T5087S and 5089) who reported the write protection being listed as "WP EEPROM" or "EEPROM WP", this is under the "OPTION" menu. The 87S users said it needed to be set to "OFF" and the 89S user said it needs to be "ON". The default should have write protection enabled, so whatever it is when you first enter the service menu, just change it to the opposite.

How to restore the original EDID from within the service menu on 650/750 models:

Follow the above directions to disable write protection. If you return to the previous menu you will see several options that were previously unavailable.

EDID ON/OFF--------ON
ALL EDID---------Success (Restores all 4 ports)
PC EDID----------Success (Restores the VGA port)
HDMI1 EDID-------Success (Restores HDMI 1 port)
HDMI2 EDID-------Success (Restores HDMI 2 port)
HDMI3 EDID-------Success (Restores HDMI 3 port)
EDID HDMI1 Ver---HDMI 1.3

Disconnect all inputs from the VGA and HDMI ports. Select whichever input you would like to restore. It will say "waiting" for a few seconds and then give you a failure or success message.



EDID Database

PnP ID: SAM029C Build Date: 2006, ISO week 45
Known Models: HL-T5076S, HL-T5676S, HL-T6176S, HL-T5687S, HL-T6187S

Updated EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,AC,C8,31,00,00,00,00,2D,10,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,CF,9B,A3,57,4C,9E,26,
0F,4A,4C,A1,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,40,84,63,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
41,4D,30,32,39,43,0A,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,47,1E,46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,1E

Updated extension block:

Code:
02,03,28,F1,46,90,22,20,05,04,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,67,03,0C,00,30,00,80,21,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,
2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,4A

Stock EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,9C,02,00,00,00,00,2D,10,01,03,80,10,09,78,0A,CF,9B,A3,57,4C,9E,26,
0F,4A,4C,A1,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,47,1E,46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,BC

Stock extension block:

Code:
02,03,18,F1,44,90,05,04,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,66,03,0C,00,30,00,80,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,
6E,28,55,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,1A
PnP ID: SAM02AC Build Date: 2006, ISO week 48
Known Models: HL-T5089S

Updated EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,AC,C8,31,00,00,00,00,30,10,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,AE,A5,A6,54,4C,99,26,
14,50,54,A1,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
41,4D,30,32,41,43,0A,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,47,1E,46,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,DC

Updated extension block:

Code:
02,03,22,F1,46,90,22,20,05,04,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,67,03,0C,00,30,00,B8,2D,E3,05,03,01,E2,
00,0F,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,40,84,63,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,
40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,67

Stock EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,AC,02,00,00,00,00,30,10,01,03,80,10,09,78,0A,AE,A5,A6,54,4C,99,26,
14,50,54,A1,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,47,1E,46,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,72

Stock extension block:

Code:
02,03,20,F1,44,90,04,05,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,E2,00,0F,E3,05,03,01,67,03,0C,00,30,00,B8,2D,
01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,A0,5A,
00,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,07
PnP ID: SAM0334 Build Date: 2007, ISO week 25
Known Models: HL-T5087S

Updated EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,AC,C8,31,00,00,00,00,19,11,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,CF,9B,A3,57,4C,9E,26,
0F,4A,4C,A1,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,40,84,63,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
41,4D,30,33,33,34,0A,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,47,1E,46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,45

Updated extension block:

Code:
02,03,28,F1,46,90,22,20,05,04,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,67,03,0C,00,30,00,80,21,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,
2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,4A

Stock EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,34,03,00,00,00,00,19,11,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,CF,9B,A3,57,4C,9E,26,
0F,4A,4C,A1,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,40,84,63,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,47,1E,46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,FB

Stock extension block:

Code:
02,03,1A,F1,46,90,05,04,03,20,22,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,66,03,0C,00,30,00,80,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,
1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,7A
PnP ID: SAM03AE Build Date: 2007, ISO week 46
Known Models: HL50A650, HL56A650

Updated EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,AC,C8,31,00,00,00,00,2E,11,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,AE,A1,A6,54,4C,99,26,
14,50,54,21,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,40,70,36,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,17,
3D,1A,44,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,41,4D,30,33,41,45,0A,20,20,20,20,20,01,63

Updated extension block:

Code:
02,03,22,F1,46,90,22,20,05,04,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,67,03,0C,00,30,00,B8,2D,E3,05,03,01,E2,
00,0F,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,
40,84,63,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,48

Stock EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,AE,03,00,00,00,00,2E,11,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,AE,A1,A6,54,4C,99,26,
14,50,54,21,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,40,70,36,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,17,
3D,1A,44,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,01,BE

Stock extension block:

Code:
02,03,22,F1,46,90,04,05,03,20,22,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,E2,00,0F,E3,05,03,01,67,03,0C,00,30,00,
B8,2D,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,
40,84,63,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,48
PnP ID: SAM03B0 Build Date: 2007, ISO week 46
Known Models: HL72A650

Updated EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,AC,C8,31,00,00,00,00,2E,11,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,AE,A1,A6,54,4C,99,26,
14,50,54,21,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,40,70,36,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,17,
3D,1A,44,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,41,4D,30,33,42,30,0A,20,20,20,20,20,01,77

Updated extension block:

Code:
02,03,22,F1,46,90,22,20,05,04,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,67,03,0C,00,30,00,B8,2D,E3,05,03,01,E2,
00,0F,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,
40,84,63,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,48

Stock EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,B0,03,00,00,00,00,2E,11,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,AE,A1,A6,54,4C,99,26,
14,50,54,21,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,40,70,36,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,17,
3D,1A,44,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,01,BC

Stock extension block:

Code:
02,03,22,F1,46,90,04,05,03,20,22,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,E2,00,0F,E3,05,03,01,67,03,0C,00,30,00,
B8,2D,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,
40,84,63,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,48
PnP ID: SAM03C7 Build Date: 2007, ISO week 49
Known Models: HL61A750, HL67A750

Updated EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,34,AC,C8,31,00,00,00,00,31,11,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,AE,A1,A6,54,4C,99,26,
14,50,54,21,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,40,70,36,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,17,
3D,1A,44,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,41,4D,30,33,43,37,0A,20,20,20,20,20,01,6C

Updated extension block:

Code:
02,03,22,F1,46,90,22,20,05,04,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,67,03,0C,00,30,00,B8,2D,E3,05,03,01,E2,
00,0F,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,
40,84,63,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,48

Stock EDID:

Code:
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,C7,03,00,00,00,00,31,11,01,03,80,A0,5A,78,0A,AE,A1,A6,54,4C,99,26,
14,50,54,21,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,40,70,36,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,17,
3D,1A,44,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,01,A2

Stock extension block:

Code:
02,03,22,F1,46,90,04,05,03,20,22,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,E2,00,0F,E3,05,03,01,67,03,0C,00,30,00,
B8,2D,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,6E,28,55,00,40,84,63,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00,
40,84,63,00,00,9E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E,96,00,40,84,63,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,48

NetCoder's Avatar NetCoder
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Great summary.

It should be worth noting that the Updated EDID is created by grafting the Mitsubishi Manufacturer ID and Model Number into your stock Samsung EDID. These both occur within the first 12 bytes of the EDID. Then you have to regenerate the last byte which is the 8 bit checksum of the first 127 bytes (2s complement). This can be done with a hex editor such as Hex Workshop.

The EDID information is stored LSB first (backwards)...
Samsung's Mfgr ID is 2D4C.
HL61A750's Model ID is 03C7.
The checksum is 162 (A2 in Hex).

00FFFFFFFFFFFF004C2DC703000000003111010380A05A780AAEA1A6544C992614505421080081800101 010101010101010101010101023A801871382D40582C450040846300001E 662150B051001B304070360040846300001E000000FD00173D1A4417000A 202020202020000000FC0053414D53554E470A202020202001A2

Mitsubishi's ID is AC34.
65737's Model ID is 31C8.

So the updated EDID would look something like this:

00FFFFFFFFFFFF0034ACC831010101013111010380A05A780AAEA1A6544C992614505421080081800101 010101010101010101010101023A801871382D40582C450040846300001E 662150B051001B304070360040846300001E000000FD00173D1A4417000A 202020202020000000FC004D45555350545631310A20202001D0

My process for creating the new EDID is to extract your original one using MonInfo and save it as a binary.
Then open the binary file up in Hex Workshop, adjust the proper values (you can use a bin from a Mitsubishi as a reference).
Then highlight the first 127 bytes, and go to Tools -> Generate Checksum -> 8-bit
In the bottom right corner it will tell you the checksum, change it to 2s complement in the dropdown.
Take this hex value and stick it in the 128th byte position.
The resulting bin should still open in MonInfo, if you got the checksum wrong, MonInfo will warn you.
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Here is the one from my HLT6187S
onitor
Model name............... SAMSUNG
Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor
Manufacturer............. Samsung
Plug and Play ID......... SAM029C
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2006, ISO week 45
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 160 x 90 mm (7.2 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (Reserved - 0x00)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... n/a

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.620
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.291 - Wy 0.300
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 30-70kHz
Vertical scan range...... 59-71Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 10/3/2010
Software revision........ 2.52.0.857
Data source.............. Registry
Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

Raw data
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,9C,02,00,00,00,00,2D,10,01,03, 80,10,09,78,0A,CF,9B,A3,57,4C,9E,26,
0F,4A,4C,A1,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01, 01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00, A0,5A,00,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,47,1E, 46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,BC
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DATA FROM HL67A750 (seems to match 61"):

00FFFFFFFFFFFF004C2DC703000000003111010380A05A780AAEA1A6544C 992614505421080081800101010101010101010101010101023A80187138 2D40582C450040846300001E662150B051001B304070360040846300001E 000000FD00173D1A4417000A202020202020000000FC0053414D53554E47 0A202020202001A2
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Thanks guys, I will update the database.

NetCoder, good info on editing the EDID. Here is a nice summary of the EDID format for those of you interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID

Also, I would like to note that the 3DA-1 puts out it's own EDID when connected to a mits 3D ready TV. I have no idea if that EDID changes depending on what model it's connected to.

Please feel free to post mits 3D ready EDIDs as well as Samsung. Just be sure to include the exact model # so I can keep the database accurate. Once I get some more mits EDIDs I will check the 3DA-1 output.

Also please make sure you dump the EDID from HDMI 3, or which ever input is the 3D input.

FilmMixer, is that a HLN-67A750 or HL67A750?
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Sorry.. HL67A750...

Question for NetCoder...

In the original example the OP gave, the updated and original only differ in Manufacturer and Model (and obviously check sum.)

In your example, the two have other differences.. is this an example only, or can the second updated code be used?
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Thanks FilmMixer,

I think he changed the name of the monitor also. I just took his stock EDID and changed the PnP ID only, which is what the 3DA-1 is looking at. You can use either one.
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I have a Gateway laptop with an HDMI output... works fine with Mon Info but since the master display is the laptop, PowerStrip doesn't see the Samsung...

I'll have to figure this one out...

Using the laptops VGA output to the TV's VGA input will not allow for an EDID flash, will it?
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After powerstrip scans the bus it will ask you if you want to flash port *. If you say no it should move on to the next port #. If moninfo finds your samsung I would think powerstrip could find it too, but I'm not sure.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

Sorry.. HL67A750...
In your example, the two have other differences.. is this an example only, or can the second updated code be used?

I also modified the "Monitor Name" attribute which is "SAMSUNG" in our TVs, but in the Mitsubishi it was "MEUSPTV11". This has proven unnecessary according to PlumB, so I didn't point it out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

I have a Gateway laptop with an HDMI output... works fine with Mon Info but since the internal display is the laptop, PowerStrip doesn't see the Samsung...
I'll have to figure this one out...

I too only have an HDMI out... I've found out two things from this setup...
1) it only captures the first half of the EDID (you may need both parts... Block 0 and Block 1.. at least to get a complete "original" snapshot)
2) It fails to update correctly. I've tried many different monitor modes, and even when I can get it to the pick the TV, it crashes my computer. I purchased a Female DVI to HDMI Male converter online, and once it arrives, I'll test that with my desktop. I'm hoping this solution will work so no wire hacking will be necessary.

It is also important to note that EDID flashing should only be performed on cords less than 6 ft. (Preferably 1.5ft).. Anything longer can cause data failures! Gleened this tip from other forums doing EDID flashing on computer monitors
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NetCoder View Post

I also modified the "Monitor Name" attribute which is "SAMSUNG" in our TVs, but in the Mitsubishi it was "MEUSPTV11". This has proven unnecessary according to PlumB, so I didn't point it out.


I too only have an HDMI out... I've found out two things from this setup...
1) it only captures the first half of the EDID (you may need both parts... Block 0 and Block 1.. at least to get a complete "original" snapshot)
2) It fails to update correctly. I've tried many different monitor modes, and even when I can get it to the pick the TV, it crashes my computer. I purchased a Female DVI to HDMI Male converter online, and once it arrives, I'll test that with my desktop. I'm hoping this solution will work so no wire hacking will be necessary.

It is also important to note that EDID flashing should only be performed on cords less than 6 ft. (Preferably 1.5ft).. Anything longer can cause data failures! Gleened this tip from other forums doing EDID flashing on computer monitors

I don't even get the Update EDID in PS...

I have some of those converters and a desktop I can use for this exercise.... I'll let you know...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

Using the laptops VGA output to the TV's VGA input will not allow for an EDID flash, will it?

Nope... If you look at the TV, it has 4 EDIDs.. one for each HDMI, and one for VGA... You need to flash HDMI3... So you're only bets are making an adapter (and hoping that works better), or trying a different computer with DVI out and using the adapter I found (which I haven't confirmed works yet, but I suspect it will)... I should know in a few days.
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I had a lot of problems with my laptop too. Even when it reported a successful flash there would be random bytes that were wrong.

Quote:


it only captures the first half of the EDID (you need both parts! Block 0 and Block 1).

You don't actually have to update the extension block, only the first 128 bytes that you posted. Powerstrip only writes 128 bytes at a time so even if you had the whole 256 it would only write the first 128. The extension block should still be there after you flash the modified EDID.

Also be aware that entering the service menu will reset your picture settings in the user menu. You might want to write those down if it's not too late.
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Quote:


I don't even get the Update EDID in PS...

You need a registered version.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlumB View Post

You need a registered version.

I will gladly pay for a registration... I didn't want to pay until I know whether or not it would work on my laptop or a computer that sits idle.. (didn't want to pay twice.)

However, on the Order A License Page it clearly says:

"Since the trial version is fully functional, registration is final and non-refundable."
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Quote:


However, on the Order A License Page it clearly says:

"Since the trial version is fully functional, registration is final and non-refundable."

Apparently the "update EDID" option is an undocumented, unsupported feature, so it's not included in the trial version. I've also read that now you need to tell them why you want that feature before they will give you the pin to activate it. You may want to contact them first and make sure they will give you the pin before you pay.
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Now if I only understood what to do with this info it would be great

Model # hl-t5687s

Monitor #1 [Real-time 0x0021]
Model name............... SAMSUNG
Manufacturer............. Samsung
Plug and Play ID......... SAM029C
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2006, ISO week 45
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 160 x 90 mm (7.2 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.620
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.291 - Wy 0.300
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 30-70kHz
Vertical scan range...... 59-71Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 150MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
IT underscan............. Supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 1
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 720x480p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 2.0
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ No
Front center............. No
Rear left/right.......... No
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... No
Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 3.0.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... No
Supports 30bpp........... No
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... No
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 165MHz

Report information
Date generated........... 10/4/2010
Software revision........ 2.52.0.857
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0021
Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

Raw data
00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,9C,02,00,00,00,00,2D,10,01,03, 80,10,09,78,0A,CF,9B,A3,57,4C,9E,26,
0F,4A,4C,A1,08,00,81,80,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01,01, 01,01,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
45,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,18,71,1C,16,20,58,2C,25,00, A0,5A,00,00,00,9E,00,00,00,FC,00,53,
41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FD,00,3B,47,1E, 46,0F,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,01,BC,
02,03,18,F1,44,90,05,04,03,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,66,03,0C, 00,30,00,80,01,1D,00,72,51,D0,1E,20,
6E,28,55,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,8C,0A,D0,8A,20,E0,2D,10,10,3E, 96,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,18,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,1A
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jford951,

I added it to the list along with the updated EDID, just follow the guide and you should be good. Let me know how it works or if you have any problems.

So far it looks like the different sizes within the same model series all have identical EDIDs, aside from the build date.
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So I purchased a copy of the service manual so I could confirm everything we're doing. According to the service manual, when EDID is set to OFF, the EDID EEPROM is protected, when it is set to ON, it is unprotected. (As we already knew).

This is new:
ALL EDID - Download to ALL EDIDs
PC...
HDMI1.
HDMI2..
HDMI3... Download to particular EDID... so we should be flashing only under this one, or we're overriding all 4! (We should update the directions)

HDMI EDID Version - used to downgrade the HDMI to a lower version (d: 1.3)
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Quote:


ALL EDID - Download to ALL EDIDs
PC...
HDMI1.
HDMI2..
HDMI3... Download to particular EDID... so we should be flashing only under this one, or we're overriding all 4! (We should update the directions)

No, the directions don't say to touch any of those options under the EDID menu. All you have to do is disable write protection by turning EDID on/off to on.

I'm just speculating but I think those options may be a different way of updating(possibly with a file saved to a usb flash drive?). Does your service manual give any additional info on updating the EDID?

I've checked the EDID on all my inputs and the only one that has been updated is HDMI 3.

Also note that this menu option appears to be unique to the 650/750 models. The 87s menu shows EDID write protection as DDC. If someone could post more details on the various service menu options I will update the OP.
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No, the directions don't say to touch any of those options under the EDID menu. All you have to do is disable write protection by turning EDID on/off to on.

I'm just speculating but I think those options may be a different way of updating(possibly with a file saved to a usb flash drive?). Does your service manual give any additional info on updating the EDID?

I've checked the EDID on all my inputs and the only one that has been updated is HDMI 3.

Also note that this menu option appears to be unique to the 650/750 models. The 87s menu shows EDID write protection as DDC. If someone could post more details on the various service menu options I will update the OP.

There are no directions to go along with the menu just a table.. I can go into HDMI3, and when I click it, it says "Waiting... Success"..
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I can go into HDMI3, and when I click it, it says "Waiting... Success"..

Yeah, I just did some experimenting with this and it appears that selecting those options actually restores the stock EDID! This is good news incase you have trouble flashing the update and get stuck with a corrupted EDID, you can just revert back to the stock one.

The EDID must be stored on the firmware also. Makes me wonder if there is a way to update without using powerstrip.
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Yeah, I just did some experimenting with this and it appears that selecting those options actually restores the stock EDID! This is good news incase you have trouble flashing the update and get stuck with a corrupted EDID, you can just revert back to the stock one.

The EDID must be stored on the firmware also. Makes me wonder if there is a way to update without using powerstrip.

I found some software on the internet called "Edid_Writer.zip".. It won't run on my Win7 64-bit machine,
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Thank you for your work on this, gentlemen. I look forward to finished results on the 61/67" LED DLPs!

I didn't see a final thought on this on the other thread: is there not a way to disable the Mits adapter from looking for the EDID in the first place?
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Thank you for your work on this, gentlemen. I look forward to finished results on the 61/67" LED DLPs!

I didn't see a final thought on this on the other thread: is there not a way to disable the Mits adapter from looking for the EDID in the first place?

I think that is a requirement for HDCP, and a handshake cannot occur with out it... it also contains a lot more information than verdor/manufacturer..
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Noob question...can you post a link on where to buy the 3DA-1 adapter or a place you recommend from buying it (google'd it but a i'm not sure which places are legit) and once you have the steps in your instructions where can i find on how to set up everything i.e. PS3, directv, etc.. to work in 3D.? Thanks and sorry for the dumb questions.
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Noob question...can you post a link on where to buy the 3DA-1 adapter or a place you recommend from buying it (google'd it but a i'm not sure which places are legit) and once you have the steps in your instructions where can i find on how to set up everything i.e. PS3, directv, etc.. to work in 3D.? Thanks and sorry for the dumb questions.

Amazon or tru3d


tru3d has a fairly good guide for setup.
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Just placed my order with Tru3d.

I own an HLT5687S and will be updating the EDID as soon as my model is confirmed to work.

Based on the last couple posts, am I to assume that if for some reason I'm unable to successfully update the EDID with my laptop, I can just restore the stock EDID? That minimizes the risk of bricking your TV significantly.
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This worked flawlessly on my 61A750 and it seems far less clunky than the Geffen -> 3DA-1 method. I tried it with my PS3 and the TV and adapter were recognized instantly but I'm seeing nothing but crosstalk while testing content so far so it looks like I still need to make some adjustments. Thanks for the instuctions PlumB!

Edit: The crosstalk ended up being caused by my X102 battery dying, everything looks fantastic once I switched it out.
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Just placed my order with Tru3d.

I own an HLT5687S and will be updating the EDID as soon as my model is confirmed to work.

Based on the last couple posts, am I to assume that if for some reason I'm unable to successfully update the EDID with my laptop, I can just restore the stock EDID? That minimizes the risk of bricking your TV significantly.

I will confirm as soon as my adaptor shows up

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