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Label on 3DXL box said 3DXL made in China.

Also, label on the bottom of actual 3DXL said Made in China.

yeah I saw that on the box, but that is just where its assembled, I am wondering if there are any components that are made in japan.
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Yes - I have noticed this. Also, when I go from 3D BD to Directv (D*) it automatically switches to SBS. So, it looks like we have more automation here than is let on by Optoma.

I was going to check the firmware level to see what I have. It was stated in another thread that to display (can't remember the exact steps) turn unit on and switch the Output Mode switch to Dual R. Hold the power switch down (rdjam says for 10 sec.) and firmware level will display on upper part of display. I haven't tried this yet mainly because I had an appointment that I had to go to and also there is a small clear plastic tab inserted in the Output Mode switch to prevent moving from its original position of 3D 720p. Don't know why that is there.

Therefore since I am now away from my home location (temporarily) I haven't tried again. Has anyone else tried this display method yet??

rdjam says the level of C04 is the level he was working with for dual 1080p 24 Hz.

I put that in my review that it switched to sbs on its on, I thought I was going nuts but I am glad its not just me that noticed that
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Glad to hear you had luck with the reported sysnc problems with the PG 250 glasses. You mentioned other brands of glasses that you have tried and I was wondering if you can report on whether the 250's are appreciably brighter than say the 150's or Optoma ZD101's in a side-by-side comparison test??. Would like to hear your results on such a test.

Wish I could do such a test. Unfortunately, the handful of glasses I've used at home were on a Samsung 3D plasma set I've since returned (3D just doesn't do it for me at 50"). I tried out quite a few different models at CES this year, but there is no way to do an accurate comparison with so many different variables. I do feel comfortable saying from the impressions I took away from the show that my setup with the Viewsonics is just as good if not better than any of the active setups at CES as far as brightness is concerned. I should also mention that I am using a Grey Wolf screen which probably doesn't help in the brightness area.
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Hey guys, I've been on here for months learning everything I can just officially joining last week. I wanted to say thank you to the whole community. Now it's time for my 3D-XL. Maybe nothing has changed, but if someone has a reliable "ready-to-ship" source, please be sure to post it. To introduce myself, with the info that really matters, I'm shooting a HD66 on 126" seemless screen w/ blackout cloth that I built myself to include a piano hinge to fold for portability. Was quite a task but I love how it turned out. Thanks guys.

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Welcome and hope you get your 3DXL soon. I haven't heard where the second batch of units will go but I would certainly check with some of the retailers that got the first batch. I don't know but two - check with JR Music and B&H photo.

I am wondering if you will find the 126" screen and HD66 acceptable in terms of picture brightness in showing 3D material. I have the 3DXL and HD66 on a 106" 16x9 hi-power screen and for dark (in brightness) 3D movies it seems very marginal in my estimation. The main culprit seems to be the DLP glasses and I am looking for higher efficiency light transmittal ones at a decent price - so far not much luck yet. Currently using the Ultraclear DLP and the Optoma ZD101 glasses.
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I have the 3DXL and HD66 on a 106" 16x9 hi-power screen and for dark (in brightness) 3D movies it seems very marginal in my estimation. The main culprit seems to be the DLP glasses and I am looking for higher efficiency light transmittal ones at a decent price - so far not much luck yet. Currently using the Ultraclear DLP and the Optoma ZD101 glasses.

I also have the 3D-xl with a HD66. I'm using a 120" Elite Screens cinewhite which is a 1.1 gain screen. To my eyes, dark scenes are dark and bright scenes are bright. I'm using the bright blub setting for 3D. The HD66 has separate settings for 2D and 3D. I adjusted brightness and contrast for 2D with a calibration video and a meter. For 3D I adjusted them while watching a 3D movie with the glasses on. Works for me.
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Yes on the calibrations for brightness and contrast. I will re-calibrate and use bright bub settings for some 3D content. Other 'lighter' content is OK now.
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Yeah, but I've found it to be the light cannon that people said it was before I bought it. I've created my custom settings with my contrast at 100 and with absolutely no light in my movie room, I've got the brightness at 34 to keep the blacks black. I imagine if I kick that up in 3D and switch to the brighter bulb mode, I'm hoping it will work. I'm also watching for reviews of the glasses that transmit 65%, but that seems leaps and bounds over what others can do so I'm a little skeptical.
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As those who’ve been reading along with the “Official 3D-XL Owners Thread” know, my first choice for 3D conversion was the 3D-XL; however, after too long of a wait and far too many undelivered schedules, I forsook the 3D-XL path and went for the VIP 3D-Theatre product. In other words, I got tired of waiting for the 3D-XL, and I recently bought and received a VIP 3D-Theatre. THANKS, Jonathan!!

Before telling you what I've found so far, I'll first tell you a little about myself in the interest of qualifying my comments and the perspective from which they are rendered. I am not in any way affiliated with anyone who sells any of the products that I am discussing here. I am completely independent. I have not been compensated in any way by anyone for anything I am writing. I paid full price for the products I am reviewing. I‘m a perfectionist and a fairly picky audiophile and videophile. I'm the kind of perfectionist that listened to scores of different audio systems and speakers for months before making a selection—the guy who, after doing all that auditioning, still found his 5.1 set of Vienna Acoustics Beethovens/Maestro a little too strained at high volume, his 5.1 set of JM Lab Electra a little too grainy in high frequencies, and his B&K Ref 30 a little too noisy on quiet tracks. I’m the guy who finds the scratch on the paint, or the unlevel picture on the wall, that no one else notices. If you’ve ever watched the series, Monk, you know what I mean. Some say I’m weird because of my attention to detail.

Why am I telling you this, though? I’m telling you all of this to let you know, before you read my review, that I'm not one to normally gloss lightly over imperfections. If I do, it’s because I find them insignificant. If I find the quality of something to be “acceptable”, or even “very good”, chances are that the average person will find that to be an understatement.

This is an important foreword, in my opinion, because small points of praise or criticism can be easily taken far too seriously, or not seriously enough, by the average reader when someone is rendering a review of audio-visual equipment, not only because everyone has a vastly different threshold for what is good versus bad, but also because A/V reviewers tend to over-criticize everything while failing to effectively convey the overall net value of the criticisms they impart, to the extent of causing some people to fear and fret over things the average consumer would actually find to be insignificant if even noticeable. There is a lot of subjectivity in an audio-visual review, and sometimes something that’s no big deal at all can be made to sound like a deal-breaking problem. So, I’m going to give you my personal opinions as a picky audio-video nerd who has a respect for making sure the average reader is not lost in jargon or scared away by obsessive nit-picking that doesn’t amount to a hill of proverbial beans in the real man’s world.

Having read some unsettling reviews, I worried a lot about the brightness and effective resolution of the HD 66 with ANY 3D setup. At least one reviewer reported that the projector dropped to less than 700 lumens in 3D mode, and that the glasses would naturally cut that to an effective 200-300. Another poster in an AVS thread had me briefly concerned about a DLP-Link synchronization issue that people started calling “pseudo stereo”. Then, there was the screen size and gain. Most people using this projector for 3D are projecting screen sizes somewhere around 100 inches, and some are using high-gain screens. Some even said that the image in 3D was “soft”; others said the picture was too dark; others said it was just fine. Finally, there was the glasses question. Which one has the best transmittance and contrast? So, I asked a lot of questions and did a fair amount of research, but I ultimately resolved that I would just have to try it for myself. As you'll find in reading further, my expectations were exceeded, and my fears were rendered a waste of time (SO FAR).

OK, here's what I can tell you so far.

Unboxing:

The VIP 3D-Theatre that I received is a pre-release version. I ordered it with one set of DLP-Link glasses. It came in an unmarked box with a USB cord and the glasses inside. A power supply and manual were not included, but I do not know if they will be included when the final street version is shipped. For my needs, Jonathan sent me the manual via email, and I used a 5V DC power supply that I already had. You may be able to power the unit off of a USB port on the average Blu-ray player, but they only support about 100ma, so I can’t say for sure until the electrical specifications are formally published for the Theatre.

Test Equipment:

Screen: 135” Elite VMAX II, Matte White, 1.1 gain
Projector: Optoma HD66, firmware uncertain but believed to be latest
Projector Distance: Approx 16’
Glasses: Set A: VIP (No, they are not the same glasses as Ultra-Clear.); Set B: Ultra-Clear
Cable: 40 feet of Auvio (Radio Shack) with Auvio Repeater
HDMI Switcher: Rocketfish
3D Converter: VIP 3D-Theatre

Testing:

I first tested the unit with the Despicable Me 3D Blu-ray at noon on a bright, sunny day, with a considerable amount of light coming into the moderately-darkened room. Right now, you’re probably expecting me to start telling you how dim the image was or how washed out the blacks were, but to my complete, blissful surprise, contrary to the professional reviews on this model of projector, I had to contain my urge to squeal like a school girl at a Springsteen concert as I found myself staring unexpectedly at a very BRIGHT, BOLD, perfectly-synced 3D picture. I was also surprised to find that, contrary to at least one professional review I read on this projector, the brightness, contrast, and other settings on the projector were available for adjustment in 3D mode. The reviewer said that when he selected 3D mode on the HD66, the projector overrode any brightness or other adjustments he made. Contrary to his review, my projector still offered me full functionality and control. This may be due to the version of the firmware; I do not know. I adjusted brightness and contrast at will, but I found that the same setting I had already selected were just fine. I had already spent considerable time tweaking the settings for the perfect 2D picture.

My second test was with a significantly darkened room at night. The lights in the next room were on and spilled into the theater room. To summarize, let me just say this: IMAX at home, if not better. OK, OK, that may be a slight overstatement (maybe, but, honestly, not by much if it is), but that was the honest feel and the reaction from the whole family, including myself. The colors, saturation, black levels, and brightness are not quite as perfect as the IMAX in every way, and are also not as good as the same projector in 2D mode without the glasses on, but I have to be honest with you by telling you that this system just flat out JAMS in 3D. Asking for more is just being spoiled, especially at the price (but even regardless of the price). I’d say that complaining about this setup would be kind of like having Jennifer Lopez for a girlfriend and complaining because she has too much junk in the trunk.

My third test was with the PS3’s Call of Duty: Black Ops. It was excellent, stunning, beautiful. I have nothing more or less to say than that.

My final test was with DirecTV 3D at noon. As with all other tests, the performance was, again, excellent.

From all my tests, I must say that I am very pleased with the brightness, contrast, color, and basically everything else. I noticed no flicker, no ghosting, and the only jitters that I did notice are about the same as I notice at the IMAX 3D theater, anyway. In fact, I notice a lot MORE flicker when I attend the finest 2D theatre in town (an IMAX theatre).

The Glasses:

Another thing I’ve read and posted about is the glasses. There is some discussion about figuring out which glasses are the best to buy and which ones have the best transmittance and contrast. I thought this was going to be a big deal, based on the brightness concerns I read. However, in my tests, the cheap glasses that came with the unit worked very well, as did the Ultra-Clears. The slight green tint of the Ultra-Clears is so slight that it is practically negligible, and I actually ended up determining that I may like them better than the brighter and uncolored VIP glasses. Both glasses performed with excellence. I really can’t make any valid complaint over either of them. From start to finish, the impression is “awesome!”

The Verdict:

Just buy it! It rocks! It does exactly what it says it will do, and it does it very, very well. Finding something to criticize with this system is nothing short of nit picking. If you’re not happy with this thing, well, you probably won’t be pleased with much else, either.

Through all of my tests, I noted a few things that I find most important to report to folks who are reading reviews and trying to wade through them to make a decision. First, regardless of whether you’re playing PS3 games, watching a Blu-ray, or viewing DirecTV, you don’t have to push any buttons or change any settings. It just works. There is, however, a set of dip switches that might be employed if you, for example, want to watch 3D on a 60Hz TV. Second, too many people say that the HD66 is too dim in 3D and had faded blacks. I can’t tell you what they found, or what kind of conditions in which they found them, but in EVERY one of my tests, I found the system to be AMPLY BRIGHT and beautifully black, even on my 135”, 1.1-gain screen from 16 feet. In fact, some scenes are just a touch too bright (not to the extent of being a “bad thing”, though). Third, I think a power supply should be offered with the sale of this unit, but it is easy enough to pick one up at Radio Shack. Fourth, I had expected to have to buy an expensive “3D-capable” HDMI switch, but the inexpensive Rocketfish worked fine. Fifth, the glasses were just fine. Don’t sweat them. Finally, there's the "pseudo-stereo problem" with DLP-Link. It's not an issue. About half the time, you look at the title screen when you're first initiating a session, and you will notice that the items that should obviously be in the foreground are not distanced correctly from the obvious background. Things look out of sorts. You click "invert" in your projector's 3D menu, and you're done. It's simple, and certainly nothing to worry about. No, it will not drive you crazy.

Now, this is for the picky videophiles out there.

Yes, there are some weaknesses to this system, just as there are with any system. Nope, it’s not as bright and rich as it is in 2D, but it’s plenty bright enough, and rich enough, for the material I watched. There may be some movies out there that are inherently dark, and they may have a problem with this system. I have not yet confirmed that fear, however. If you cannot adequately darken your room, you may want to wait for something brighter, but don’t take that statement too seriously. Some people would be satisfied with this in a half-dark room. I watch most of my stuff at night.

There is a little bit of getting used to the glasses, and the fluidity of motion is sometimes compromised during rapid movements of characters on the screen, but no more than at the commercial IMAX. I've always noticed this kind of thing in the commercial theaters, too.

Unlike IMAX 3D, though, as I said above, ghosting is utterly absent with this system, and flicker is not apparent. I generally DO notice ghosting at the IMAX 3D.

The resolution is excellent with this system, and the drop in resolution from 1080P to 720P was not noticed by anyone in my test room, except for maybe just the slightest, most miniscule degradation that I noticed, but it was so slight that I would only notice it briefly at times and think it might actually be my eyes (my eyes have always wrestled a little with 3D). Yes, I suppose one might be accurate in saying that the image is slightly "softer", but the word, "slightly", should be emphasized.

For anyone who does not have a serious bent for anal retention and a diagnosed condition of untreated OCD—and even for those who DO—I say this: buy with confidence, and stop reading nay-saying reviews. So far, the VIP 3D-Theatre is a great product that does exactly what it’s supposed to do, and the HD66 projector is an excellent match. In short, I have to say that the VIP 3D-Theatre, the HD66, and the other products mentioned herein combine to form a system is very much on par with commercial Real-D and IMAX theaters, with the obvious exceptions of screen size, audio power, and brightness (which, again, I found to be just fine).

Note: this is only my personal opinion and the opinion of three other viewers along side me in the test room. This does not mean that anyone else’s opinion is less valid or less intelligent. An opinion is an opinion, and not everyone has the same threshold. No offense to anyone with differing opinions, but if you’re an average person rather than a very, VERY picky videophlie, and you are worrying, stop. If you’re hesitating, don’t. If you’re waiting on the 3D-XL, but have a chance at buying a VIP 3D-Theatre in the mean time, buy the VIP 3D-Theatre, hook it to your HD66, and enjoy. Don't worry about the glasses. Either buy the VIP ones, or get some Ultra-Clears. They are both fine choices.

WELL DONE, VIP!! I am a satisfied customer.

Thanks for all the chat, company, answers, and help during the long wait time for the 3D conversion products to hit the street, guys. I enjoyed it. Congrats to those of you lucky enough to have received 3D-XL's and VIP's so far. As for the rest, just be patient; it's worth the wait.
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Should start an official owners thread for the VIP-3D-Theater? No?
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Should start an official owners thread for the VIP-3D-Theater? No?

Yeah, so we can spend the next six months pinin' for yet another piece of 3D vaporware.

JOHNnDENVER, if I recall, you put together an HTPC solution for viewing cable and blu-ray 3D. Is it working?
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I agree, this post has been attacked by multiple topics. We need a vip theatre, vip displayer, 3d-xl optoma locator among others. LOL we have hijacked it.
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Gotcha - Great review and I think I definitely would have bought the Theater if my 3DXL was yet delayed one more day. One item that was not mentioned was HDMI handshaking time or delays.. Since you didn't mention I am assuming that all goes well in that area. I have not noticed any problems with the 3DXL and it takes sometimes 5 to 7 seconds when changing resolutions or switching from D* to Blu-Ray but it gets there OK. I think you have increased everyone's confidence level with your Positive review of the Theater. ---- Thanks.
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I have kinda a stupid question. When feeding the 3d-xl or vip adapter from your 3d source. Do you have to use a 1.4 hdmi?
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Thanks, HTFANN007. Glad you found it positive and helpful.

I was hoping to help some people gain confidence and stop worrying about some decision-hindering concerns that I think are a little overrated by some reviewers.

I haven't had any non-operator-error problems at all--HDMI, handshaking, nothing. I do note that you must turn on the projector before you will get a "3D" light on the VIP, and that every now and then, if you don't do that first, you might have to exit and re-enter the BR menu at the beginning of a movie, in order for your Blu-ray player to recognize that you have a 3D display. I think that's just a matter of turning things on in the right order, though, or if you don't turn them on in the right order, resetting things so that 3D is recognized on the player. I feel pretty sure that the same thing would happen on a 3D TV if you turned the player on before the TV and it was already in the BR movie menu when you turned on the TV.

Johndenver and Jadeezra,

I was hoping to provide some feedback to people who have not been fortunate enough to land one of these boxes yet. I know that I considered not buying either product when I read of some of the overrated concerns that I now know would have been a serious disservice to me (and other readers) if i had let them keep me from buying the screen, projector, and 3D box that I bought. Some reviewers had me thinking I'd made a mistake, but it all worked out VERY well. So, I wanted to help others buy all of these products with confidence--from the screen to the projector, to the glasses, to the 3D box.

Since several people mentioned the other 3D products, the concerns about the glasses, the HD66, and the screen, and the temptation to switch to another product instead of waiting for the 3d-XL, I figured that a lot of people would appreciate some feedback on several of those concerns and topics in one post here. I tried to touch on several things that several people have been discussing as concerns. I'm sorry if you feel like I hijacked this thread, but if that was done, I think that was probably done long before my post. I'm not an anti-3D-XL person. I was actually considering buying one of them also, in addition to the VIP, just to compare them. I changed my mind after realizing that I was completely satisfied, though. I would have been very happy if the 3d-XL had availed itself when it was supposed to, but it didn't. I think most people will be pretty pleased with it when it does, though.

I hope this helps someone. If not, then I tried.

Take care, all, and thanks again for all the help and conversations.
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pictures of the vip theater?
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I knew I was forgetting something. I meant to take some pics and post them. My Droid is not charged right now. I'll try to take a pic or two and post them in the morning if I get a chance. I can tell you, though, it's not very wiz-bang flattering. It's a very simple box with an HDMI port on each side, one mini-USB port for power, a jack for an emitter (which I don't use), and a block of 10 or so dip switches. There are three lights on it--Power, Link, and 3D, and a button that Jonathan said was for future use. At this point, the only thing I know about that you would ever flick or switch on the box is the 1st dip switch for use on 60Hz TV's. Anyway, I'll see if I can get around to posting a pic or two in the morning.
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I knew I was forgetting something. I meant to take some pics and post them. My Droid is not charged right now. I'll try to take a pic or two and post them in the morning if I get a chance. I can tell you, though, it's not very wiz-bang flattering. It's a very simple box with an HDMI port on each side, one mini-USB port for power, a jack for an emitter (which I don't use), and a block of 10 or so dip switches. There are three lights on it--Power, Link, and 3D, and a button that Jonathan said was for future use. At this point, the only thing I know about that you would ever flick or switch on the box is the 1st dip switch for use on 60Hz TV's. Anyway, I'll see if I can get around to posting a pic or two in the morning.

Thanks for a thorough review; the VIP products are really the only option for me, as I don't have a 3d-ready pj, but you've answered some of my concerns.

Is there any option on the 3d-Theater for 2 units running dual displays for a passive setup... or maybe one of the unused dipswitches will be used for this in a future firmware?
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pictures of the vip theater?

See Here,.............http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1323736


See ya!

Wake me when HD gets Here!
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Yeah, so we can spend the next six months pinin' for yet another piece of 3D vaporware.

JOHNnDENVER, if I recall, you put together an HTPC solution for viewing cable and blu-ray 3D. Is it working?

Still working well enough for Blu-ray (just barely acceptably), but my Avermedia card only comes up like 1 out of every 50 boots so I can watch Direct TV with it.

I am pretty sick of the HTPC, I long for my adapter, now pre-pre-ordered twice and no product in sight it seems.
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Yeah, so we can spend the next six months pinin' for yet another piece of 3D vaporware.

Its hardly vaporware, where did you get that from?

I have had a unit for over a week now! Please keep in mind it is a still unreleased product and I got one for testing on several different displays. On that note the unit has worked on every display I tried it on. Although I had a problem with the emitter and glasses, which is currently being resolved in short order.

If you would like to see for yourself instead of making negative comments about a product you know nothing about,....see here.

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unreleased product = vaporware. People have had the 3DXL for a long time too. That doesn't help us who are waiting to actually buy something.
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Its hardly vaporware, where did you get that from?

I have had a unit for over a week now! Please keep in mind it is a still unreleased product and I got one for testing on several different displays. On that note the unit has worked on every display I tried it on. Although I had a problem with the emitter and glasses, which is currently being resolved in short order.

If you would like to see for yourself instead of making negative comments about a product you know nothing about,....see here.

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I apologize, and my comment was out-of-place in this thread. But like many others, I am frustrated.
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unreleased product = vaporware. People have had the 3DXL for a long time too. That doesn't help us who are waiting to actually buy something.

Unreleased product from a company that has released an extremely similar product EXACTLY when they said they would, and consumers can *right now* can go to their distributor and order and get it in a week. This historical example, along with an announced release date of early April, establishes a pretty reasonable expectation that it will be available in early April. Vaporware is, by definition (yes, I just checked webster), a product with significant advertizing but reason to believe it may never be released. In this case, the company's history establishes exactly the opposite expectation. Thus your use of the word 'vaporware' is by definition incorrect and inappropriate.




Having said that, why is the 3d-xl thread being jacked with 3d-vip discussion?

I honestly wouldn't call the 3d-xl vaporware either - it is released and in production, and consumers have bought it. Optoma is apparently screwing up their production and distribution process pretty severely, but that's still quite different from vaporware.
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Maybe look up hyperbole while you are in the dictionary
The 3D-vip is revelant because we are here for a solution to a problem, that is also solved by that device. If another company entirely came up with a device and it was for sale on Amazon right now, I am sure most everyone in this thread would be interested. Of course a more appropriate thread would be "Optoma 3DXL wanna be owners"
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I apologize, and my comment was out-of-place in this thread. But like many others, I am frustrated.

No problem, I too just got upset over the vaporware comment, maybe too much.

I started a thread specifically for the Vip theatre, so no more in this thread for me. Really I was just chiming in on what was being said in general. Please know that I have no distain for the Optoma 3D-XL, and hope that all that are looking for one the best of luck.

I was also looking for a soultion after Optoma gave me the shaft on the 120hz upgrade for the HD65, and was hanging onto that unit specifically for 3D. I currently have an Epson HC8100 that is my main 1080p in my theatre. I was going to rehang the optoma once that firmware upgrade became available. Now that I have found the Vip Theatre solution I don't have to do that, and was only hoping to give you guys an alternative to the 3D-XL.

Join us here if you would like.....http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1323736

Now back to the Optoma Thread......sorry again.

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shopblt.com just increased their incoming quantity from 90-something to 144 today. That should be a sign that they've gotten word Optoma (or AVAD (sp?)) that they're on their way. I'm #37 of the 46 back orders to date. We'll see.

UPDATE: just this (25Mar) morning the ETA changed from 31-Mar to 14-Apr, which is consistent with what other vendors are posting. This is lame. If Viewsonic can get theirs (VP3D1) shipped, I'd gladly hop off the 3DXL anticipation of delivery not-so-merry-go-round.

UPDATE2: Amazon went from 1-2 months to "Temporarily out of stock. Order now and we'll deliver when available. We'll e-mail you with an estimated delivery date as soon as we have more information."

UPDATE3: Consignia.ca has changed their ETA to April 25th. The soap opera continues.
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I give up with Optoma - after numerous emails and calls into them - not one return call back... They have the worst customer service I have ever experienced. I have officially cancelled my pre-order for the 3dxl and will be going directly with the competition as they respond to every question ask and obviously care about their customers. Now after all of the headaches, dissapointments and frustration - I go to the Optoma website and notice that the finally have the 3dxl listed on their site. Now get this - check the specs they list... lol... do a bunch of monkeys run this company... what a joke!
Thanks Optoma - you definately lost a customer for life!

Item No: BG-3DXL
Project a 100" diagonal image between 20 to 36 feet away from the screen
Stunningly bright XGA projector with extensive connectivity options
Power zoom, power focus and power lens shift for installation flexibility
Remote management and control via RJ45 connection
Side access to lamp for easy replacement

3D-XL
UPC: 796435 09 016 6
Price: $399.00
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I give up with Optoma - after numerous emails and calls into them - not one return call back... They have the worst customer service I have ever experienced. I have officially cancelled my pre-order for the 3dxl and will be going directly with the competition as they respond to every question ask and obviously care about their customers. Now after all of the headaches, dissapointments and frustration - I go to the Optoma website and notice that the finally have the 3dxl listed on their site. Now get this - check the specs they list... lol... do a bunch of monkeys run this company... what a joke!
Thanks Optoma - you definately lost a customer for life!

Item No: BG-3DXL
Project a 100" diagonal image between 20 to 36 feet away from the screen
Stunningly bright XGA projector with extensive connectivity options
Power zoom, power focus and power lens shift for installation flexibility
Remote management and control via RJ45 connection
Side access to lamp for easy replacement

3D-XL
UPC: 796435 09 016 6
Price: $399.00


Well, I couldn't believe it so I had to go to the web site and look for myself. Sure enough for the 3DXL they have features listed obviously for a projector. I don't think the 3DXL has a lamp and a zoom lens.
I think monkeys would be smarter.
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Has anyone heard any news on these 3dxl's shipping anytime in my lifetime?? Ordered mine from tru3d and have'nt heard a word........This is starting to get a little old!!
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