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Will do...

I just heard from my contact that the price was dropped from $439.99 CAD to $369.99 and does include 1 pair of glasses
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I just heard from my contact that the price was dropped from $439.99 CAD to $369.99 and does include 1 pair of glasses

Where's the beef! (You have to be older to understand.)

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Thats great news, not a bad deal for 369.99 with a pair of glasses if true imo.
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where's the beef! (you have to be older to understand.)

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Where's the beef! (You have to be older to understand.)

Yep - I also remember their "Russian Fashion Show" ad... "Is Vinter!... Is Zummer!... Is Zpring!..."

And in the same era, who can forget "I've fallen and I can't get up!"
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Hey guys do I need to have a 3D ready reciever to get audio when running this with my projector or can I possibly use one of the hdmi outputs and run to my reciever to get audio?? thanks
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You need a 3D ready receiver, or an HDMI splitter, which would be cheaper, but not as handy. Plus it is good to have an excuse to upgrade the receiver
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Passive or active splitter?.......does that depend on the travel?
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I got a 1 to 4 Gefen "tool box" splitter - it's technically a HDMI 1.3 splitter but it's 3D and HD Audio compatible. (1 to 4 means, 1 HDMI in and 4 HDMI outputs).

If you have a 1.3 AVR, you could run your device to the splitter first, then send 1 output to the AVR, and 2 outputs to the 3DXL boxes.

Re: passive or active - The Gefen box has a switch to let you select whether the HDMI handshake happens with the Gefen, or with the passthru device, and another switch lets you choose whether you are passing multichannel audio or 2 channel (ie SPDIF) audio.

The Gefen is discounted on Amazon, but there may well be cheaper options out there. There is a Sewell HDMI 1.4 switch that is about to ship - only $75. I haven't hooked up the Gefen yet, expect to be able to test all the options over the weekend, so can report how much of that flexibility was actually needed.
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Wouldn't that depend on whether the receiver was connected before or after the 3D-XL? Doesn't the box output 720P at 120 Hz? Does that require a 3D receiver or is a 3D receiver only required for 1080P 120 Hz?

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Wouldn't that depend on whether the receiver was connected before or after the 3D-XL? Doesn't the box output 720P at 120 Hz? Does that require a 3D receiver or is a 3D receiver only required for 1080P 120 Hz?

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Was only outlining a dual pj setup with a HDMI 1.3 AVR. Different setups vary. With my 4311CI, I have all sources to AVR first, then one of the HDMI outputs will feed splitter, which feeds the pjs. The other output on the AVR goes to a Panny 3D plasma.

This will vary again if someone is using the 3DXL for a single pj DLP-Link setup. In Doug's case (if that is his setup) he would go to the splitter first, then split to AVR and the 3DXL.
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Here is a new Email I got from Consignia Canada where some people have 3DXL pre orders in:

"We have still not received the 3D-XL's from Optoma as of yet. However we have been told by our Optoma rep that Feb 15th is looking like a more realistic ETA."

"...we were notified again by Optoma that it has been 100% confirmed - now that the release is closer - that 1 pair of 3D Glasses are included after all. *On top of this the price has been reduced from $439.99cad to $369.99cad!"

"...within 48hours time everyone who pre-ordered at the $439.99 price will be getting a $70 refund (plus tax if applicable) back to their credit card."

Also they have updated shipping status from 'awaiting fullfillment' to 'awaiting shipment'.

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Can't wait to hear the reviews!!!
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Do you have the GT700 paired with a 3d-xl? Did you have to send the GT700 back to Optoma for a firmware update to enable the 3D capability?

I have the GT720 connected to a GTX460 nvidia card. In order to get 3d, I bought the 3D vision kit and used a config file to tell my htpc that the projector is capable of 120hz. Without this config file the projector is stuck at 60hz --- which won't work in 3D. No firmware upgrade needed if you use this "spoof" config file.

Using this free config file is a work around but it does the job. The 3DXL pretty much eliminates the need for this file and will allow you to hook up PS3's or stand alone BD players, whereas the config file and 3D vision is HTPC only. Hope it makes sense what I just said, and imho, the 3D via HTPC is good enough. 3D is cool and fun for a bit but I got tired of it. Plus when the HTPC is in 120hz, the resolution (when looking at your desktop icons or web browsing) is kind of ass; really dark and hard to read (even on my 150" screen sitting 12 feet back) it's blurry. I found out weeks later that the image/screen looks much better at 60hz if you're going to view regular 2D, its more clear and brighter but no where near the quality of my 1080p Epson 8100. That PJ is like having a gigantic computer monitor it's that clear. The GT720 looks like crap when trying to websurf and looks far worse in 120hz 2D mode and so-so in 60hz but it's still crap because of the 1280 x 800 resolution at 720p vs. 1920 x 1080 on the Epson. However, when playing movies through the GT720, it looks pretty sweet.

The 3DXL is cool if you're going stand alone player/PS3 route only. It probably won't be necessary to have the crisp clarity needed to view text, only for movies. I'm happy with the HTPC 3D setup so i'll most likely skip the 3DXL because it's not really necessary for my use. Playing 3D BD on the HTPC looks great and with PowerDvD and TMT5, you can use the 2D to 3D converter to watch any DVD movie (or converted blu-ray to .avi file) in 3D. It'll be psuedo 3D but it is pretty cool for the first 20 minutes or so. I especially like watching the old Tron movie in this mode, but like someone else mentioned, it's like some acid trip ( I guess, never used that drug) where straight lines are all curvy and wavy but when you wear the glasses it looks semi-normal and there is depth to the movie.

BTW, you set the GT720 to DLP LINK and you can use those type of glasses even when you have the Nvidia 3D Vision emitter & glasses running. The DLP Glasses are slightly darker than the Nvidia but this is necessary due to the DLP LINK signal being projected on the screen,which makes the movie look washed out, but you can correct this using the contrast and brightness controls. This is how those glasses sync with the projector while the Nvidia glasses sync to the emitter.

I was really surprised when playing a 3DBD movie. At 720p, it looked just as good as any other HD signal I seen. I mean, after a moment you forget about the details and just enjoy the movie for what it is and considering its clear and on a BIG screen, who cares if it ain't 1080p? I'll guaranty any friend, family member or aquaintance won't care. They'll be too busy with their mouth open and in awe (same goes for wives. My wife was none the wiser about all the technical stuff, she was just impressed by the 3D). Now only if there was more quality movies...I wouldn't be so bored. I actually turned off Open Season 3D after 20 minutes. Dumbest movie I ever bought. We ended up watching Shrek 4 in converted mode, but then I switched it to 2D because it was getting a little strainful on my eyes. 2D wasn't bad but wasn't that great in 120hz. I didn't figure out the 60hz vs. 120hz clarity difference until much later.

Anyhow, sorry for such a long write up but I notice that some folks on this forum will give you the minimal amount of info when asked and sometimes not answer you at all. I figure i'll give you everything I know and let you pick and choose what info you need even if it's TMI.
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It's kinda like pre-boarding a plane. How do you do that anyway?

You have to pay for business class or first class. Won't work with coach unless they specifically say boarding for elderly or those with small children.
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Hi Guys great info on the 3d-xl, just ordered mine from Consignia.ca. I have a question on my Optoma HD66. When I can switch the screen format it only does it once to whatever I want then after that it wont change unless I reset the projector. Anybody else run into this?
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"...within 48hours time everyone who pre-ordered at the $439.99 price will be getting a $70 refund (plus tax if applicable) back to their credit card."

They charged your credit card for the whole price of a preorder?? That isn't cool, and pretty sure it isn't legal for that matter.
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You have to pay for business class or first class. Won't work with coach unless they specifically say boarding for elderly or those with small children.

You missed the point. There's no such thing as "pre-board". You're either on or you're not. It's an oxymoron created by morons (the airline industry).

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"...within 48hours time everyone who pre-ordered at the $439.99 price will be getting a $70 refund (plus tax if applicable) back to their credit card."

They charged your credit card for the whole price of a preorder?? That isn't cool, and pretty sure it isn't legal for that matter.
Actually, in this particular case, it's quite legal. You agreed to ordering at a pre-determined price and to be charged for the item and that you would accept the fact that it wasn't ready to ship "quite yet". That's what a pre-order is. To be honest, they are under no obligation to refund the difference in the new and the old price. Why? You already agreed to the old price and terms as part of the order.

They understand the PR aspect of the problem so they are refunding the difference but it's not because they are under any legal obligation to do so.

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They understand the PR aspect of the problem so they are refunding the difference but it's not because they are under any legal obligation to do so.

I'm sure they also realize that if they didn't refund the difference people would just cancel the preorder.
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I'm sure they also realize that if they didn't refund the difference people would just cancel the preorder.

True. Now if we could only BUY ONE.

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Will this work with my HD71???
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From Optoma's facebook page:

We apologize for the wait on 3D-XL. There are 7 major 3D content formats through HDMI 1.4a, and we were gathering tech info from DirecTv, Comcast, and Rogers regarding to their 3D content channels....testing had to be completed and made sure before we can ship the actual product to our channels.

We are organizing the final packaging right now, and it will be shipped to our channels this coming Friday.

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From Optoma's facebook page:

We apologize for the wait on 3D-XL. There are 7 major 3D content formats through HDMI 1.4a, and we were gathering tech info from DirecTv, Comcast, and Rogers regarding to their 3D content channels....testing had to be completed and made sure before we can ship the actual product to our channels.

We are organizing the final packaging right now, and it will be shipped to our channels this coming Friday.
Fantastic news.

Trust me, it'll have been worth the extra wait. This box has been dynamite with everything I've been able to throw at it.
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Oh boy oh boy oh boy.....

I picked up a 65" Mitsu over the weekend. I am excited to have 3D in both prime viewing rooms now. Nice they both use the same glasses.
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From Optoma's facebook page:

We apologize for the wait on 3D-XL. There are 7 major 3D content formats through HDMI 1.4a, and we were gathering tech info from DirecTv, Comcast, and Rogers regarding to their 3D content channels....testing had to be completed and made sure before we can ship the actual product to our channels.

We are organizing the final packaging right now, and it will be shipped to our channels this coming Friday.

I can't wait, the NHL winter classic is on feb 20th broadcast in 3d, can't wait!!

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Great now where can I preorder lol.
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Seriously though this is big news for alot of people here. Guys get ready to wow your friends.
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Just a quick question on hook up. My receiver doesn't have hdmi I use component. Can I just run hdmi from box to ps3 and direct tv and just run av from ps3 and direct tv for audio out of my surround? Or will using hdmi not allow the use of the av output for audio? Sorry if the question is dumb. Just trying to keep cost down as 3d is so new.

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Most devices (including PS3) will do hdmi for video only and use other ouptuts like coax/optical digital or rca for audio.
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