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post #151 of 2483 Old 05-26-2011, 09:38 PM
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That's good news, I'm glad to hear some real positive feedback, mine gets here tomorrow, and I've got about 30 hours of 3d content so I'll get back to you guys next week, lol

I honestly thought 3d was a gimmick...I don't feel that way anymore. I absolutely love it. Make sure that you at least do the picture wizard and turn down the backklighting...I have mine set at 45 and run it in standard. The TV is extremely bright and needs to be toned down. Good luck and enjoy the 3d ride.

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Still no word on the delivery of the 65" models in our area. Was supposed to be here in March. It's now the end of May.
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That's good news, I'm glad to hear some real positive feedback, mine gets here tomorrow, and I've got about 30 hours of 3d content so I'll get back to you guys next week, lol

One more thing...aftrer you connect to the internet, download the new firmware. Youtube 3d is now working, plus some other neat features.

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I just saw the 65" in a local store. They were showing a demo using scenes from Monsters vs Aliens. I could see the horizontal lines from up close, but not from 6-8 feet. It was a little soft, but worth it compared to the eye strain/headaches I get from active sets.
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Got my 55" lw6500 today, did the 2d->3d on a couple shows the kids were watching, it was ok. Watched 3d avatar and it was freaking amazing, anyone who calls passive half-hd hasn't sat down and watched one yet. No ghosting, black lines for me, just impressive color,depth, all around impressive experience.

Tahiti,Dinosaurs,M-house, AIW , Tangled,7Wonders, HTTYD, Cloudy, Open Season, Goldberg Variations, Avatar, 3d triple, Lang Lang, Megamind,Yogi, G&J, shrek-complete.
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Got my 55" lw6500 today, did the 2d->3d on a couple shows the kids were watching, it was ok. Watched 3d avatar and it was freaking amazing, anyone who calls passive half-hd hasn't sat down and watched one yet. No ghosting, black lines for me, just impressive color,depth, all around impressive experience.

I hope to be able to enjoy my 55" 6500 as well. Mine in supposed to be delievered Thursday 6/2. I purchased the Panasonic 55gt30( 31) from best Buy last week. The picture quality is great, but am finding the glasses are uncomfertable and get dizzy after watching 3d. Hope the LG fairs better, as the Panasonic is on its way back to best Buy for a refund
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Brands Mart USA has a deal on the 65" lw6500 for 3599.00. On my way to pick up last one in west palm.
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went to best buy and tried it out. WOW way better than the active sets. The 3d had so much depth to it. I'm not getting the LG but I will be getting the Vizio passive 3d tv.
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very important question to the owners,
i always wanted this TV because of passive 3D, but i already paid for 55HX929 in a local store and they will ship it on june 1st.
if both were same price , would taking 55LW6500 over 55HX929 a wise choice?
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Before we mount this in our sons room my wife and I thought we'd take a look. We watched the Game of Thrones 2D to 3D and it looked really nice. The subtitles floating in air was odd, but overall I was impressed with the conversion. My eyes are very sensitive and could not detect lines during the show. The whole argument of being half resolution is bogus too. Watching 3D on HBOHD looks just as good as 2D on HBOHD. While technically it may be true, in reality the Passive picture is WAY more enjoyable than Active. I saw ZERO crosstalk during the conversion as well.

Have to break out the meters to calibrate later this week.

TV speakers are horrible. Samsung's 55LNA950 are much better, but those are shite too. I guess it's par for the course with thin TVs. Have to use smaller speakers to fit in TV.
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Hi all. I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but the specsheet for the 65" LW6500 lists it as having only 120Hz TruMotion as opposed to the 240Hz rate of the smaller 47" and 55" models of the same 6500 lineup. Anyone have any idea why LG would choose to limit their largest size 3D tv of the series in this way? You'd think that the larger screen size would make it that much more important to try and help mask any possible motion issues with the higher refresh rate.

So wouldn't that essentially make this tv just a 65LW5600 then? I thought that the primary (if not only) up-sell of the LW6500 series over the LW5600 series was the 240Hz? I realize it probably won't be too significant or perhaps even noticeable at all, but I guess it's just the principle of the matter. Seems a bit like they're trying to slip it past the consumer or something, because I've been following all the news on these LG's rather closely since CES and am fairly sure this is a very recent, previously unannounced change. Guess maybe I'll hafta wait for Sharp's 70" 3D offering to come to market now before making a final decision on my next purchase.
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LG website specs for 65 inch :

SMART TV including Magic Motion Remote
Cinema 3D (w/2D to 3D Conversion)
LED Plus w/Local Dimming
TruMotion 240HzWi-Fi® Ready
Skype Ready
Full HD 1080p Resolution
10M:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio
DLNA Certified®

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Hi all. I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but the specsheet for the 65" LW6500 lists it as having only 120Hz TruMotion as opposed to the 240Hz rate of the smaller 47" and 55" models of the same 6500 lineup.


You are correct that the spec sheet appears to conflct with all of the information coming from CES 2011.

I hope there are some 65LW6500 owner's that can verify the actual rate.
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Please excuse/disregard this post. I simply need 3 posts before I can provide links. Sorry for the clutter and inconvenience.
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Again, please disregard this post. Just needed 3 posts so I can do links. Sorry for the clutter and inconvenience.
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LG website specs for 65 inch :

SMART TV including Magic Motion Remote
Cinema 3D (w/2D to 3D Conversion)
LED Plus w/Local Dimming
TruMotion 240HzWi-Fi® Ready
Skype Ready
Full HD 1080p Resolution
10M:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio
DLNA Certified®

Actually, I suspect the portion of the LG website that you must have gotten that info from is the now seemingly outdated/inaccurate "CES Product" section found through the following link : http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/.../LG-LW6500.jsp . The only way to even find that link is through a google search, btw. If you try to find any info on the 65LW6500 by navigating the actual current product lineup on the official US LG site, you won't even find a mention of the 65LW6500 anywhere yet. But we know it exists and a few people have said they've already seen and purchased it. It would be nice if LG would keep their site more current. It's pretty bad when you hafta go to retailers' sites to get info on a manufacturer's product.

If you look at the official spec sheet .pdf file available at the following retailer's link: http://www.abt.com/documents/37488/6...Spec_Sheet.pdf , as well as in the details sections of some other retailers like Amazon, you will see that it now lists the 65LW6500 as being only 120Hz, as opposed to the 240Hz of the smaller LW6500 models.

Could someone who has purchased or seen the 65" LW6500 in store please check out the documentation or box that came with the tv and verify? Thanks.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but does either the 5600 or 6500 run Skype?
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I have to be honest evaluating the 65LW6500. The 2D picture does not hold a candle to the Samsung LN55A950 display that is almost 2 years old. FULL LED back-lighting wins hands down. You REALLY have to tweak this TV to get a great picture without crushed blacks in 2D. If you have isf calibration equipment then you are fine. If you're Joe Six Pack, then you'll have to try what works best. I am impressed with the type/number of adjustments allowed for calibration. More than Samsung ever gave me.

With that being said, if you want 3D then this is the TV to get. Samsung has lost me as a customer. We have the LN55A950 (last model Samsung made with Full LED back-lighting). After about 1 year it developed stationary/thin horizontal lines (I've seen this fresh out of the box at client sites), and then a strange RED/YELLOW/ORANGE sunburst on bright areas of the display. Samsung came out to replace the panel with a refurbished panel. I asked why? It's because once they stop making that TV, the stop making panels period. I could tell it was used because of the dust where the FAN is mounted on the replacement panel when it arrived. The used panel lasted less than 24 hours. In the morning we had the same Horizontal lines in the display on the new panel. Samsung wanted to either replace the whole TV with a 2011 model that is 5 models down from the top of the line. I told them they were nuts. I'll take a full refund and buy a LG. Since we were looking for a TV our son asked if he could get 3D. So we pulled the trigger. I would have rather bought the new nano tech panel from LG but the ACTIVE 3D was annoying.

I was surprised to find the Wireless USB NIC in the box. In one part of the manual is states it is optional, and another part says it's included. Maybe I read over that part wrong as I glanced through the manual. Firmware is easy to do just like a blu-ray player. Samsung on the other hand seems to hide firmware, while support claims it doesn't exist, when it does.

Reading in the manual there is going to be a 9800 (6500 on steroids) series with 480Hz refresh. It will have built in wireless. Best Buy Magnolia rep told me that this model will be for Magnolia only stores. Is it true? Haven't confirmed. This model is listed in the 65LW6500 manual that came with the TV. Those 2 features seemed to stick out.

3D is terrific so far. It's nice to see you can setup 2 different settings for 2D mode and 3D mode.
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ordered 65LW6500 today from audioholics, last time I watch passive 3d in imax I saw some ghosting..My depthHQ 3d projector(3yrs old) w/ active glasses was very good no ghosting whatsoever but it is eye straining and I get tired watching after two hours BUT I enjoy it on a 120" screen..one major setback for me for active is that you lose at least 15-20% brightness, passive is far better..I will be hooking this up on my boxee box..see what happens..
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I've yet to see the 65LW6500, no major chains have it locally. Also can't seem to find it in stock anywhere online either, they must be scarce.

I'm definitely waiting on the Sharp and other 65"+ models since I can't even view the 6500 series much less purchase it.
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I have to be honest evaluating the 65LW6500. The 2D picture does not hold a candle to the Samsung LN55A950 display that is almost 2 years old. FULL LED back-lighting wins hands down. You REALLY have to tweak this TV to get a great picture without crushed blacks in 2D. If you have isf calibration equipment then you are fine. If you're Joe Six Pack, then you'll have to try what works best. I am impressed with the type/number of adjustments allowed for calibration. More than Samsung ever gave me.

With that being said, if you want 3D then this is the TV to get. Samsung has lost me as a customer. We have the LN55A950 (last model Samsung made with Full LED back-lighting). After about 1 year it developed stationary/thin horizontal lines (I've seen this fresh out of the box at client sites), and then a strange RED/YELLOW/ORANGE sunburst on bright areas of the display. Samsung came out to replace the panel with a refurbished panel. I asked why? It's because once they stop making that TV, the stop making panels period. I could tell it was used because of the dust where the FAN is mounted on the replacement panel when it arrived. The used panel lasted less than 24 hours. In the morning we had the same Horizontal lines in the display on the new panel. Samsung wanted to either replace the whole TV with a 2011 model that is 5 models down from the top of the line. I told them they were nuts. I'll take a full refund and buy a LG. Since we were looking for a TV our son asked if he could get 3D. So we pulled the trigger. I would have rather bought the new nano tech panel from LG but the ACTIVE 3D was annoying.

I was surprised to find the Wireless USB NIC in the box. In one part of the manual is states it is optional, and another part says it's included. Maybe I read over that part wrong as I glanced through the manual. Firmware is easy to do just like a blu-ray player. Samsung on the other hand seems to hide firmware, while support claims it doesn't exist, when it does.

Reading in the manual there is going to be a 9800 (6500 on steroids) series with 480Hz refresh. It will have built in wireless. Best Buy Magnolia rep told me that this model will be for Magnolia only stores. Is it true? Haven't confirmed. This model is listed in the 65LW6500 manual that came with the TV. Those 2 features seemed to stick out.

3D is terrific so far. It's nice to see you can setup 2 different settings for 2D mode and 3D mode.
So is the refresh rate 120 or 240?

Thanks.
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I've yet to see the 65LW6500, no major chains have it locally. Also can't seem to find it in stock anywhere online either, they must be scarce.

I'm definitely waiting on the Sharp and other 65"+ models since I can't even view the 6500 series much less purchase it.
Same here- I guess I need to be patient. I guess I will wait until closer to Christmas. My 3D collection is growing
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Looks like the 9800 series is only 47 & 55". Only the 6500 series will be 65".

Here is the manual from the CD. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K0J8Q2PF

No reference to 240Hz or 120Hz for that matter. Searched TruMotion and nothing is listed in specs. It may be buried somewhere else.

Noticed RS-232 is standard for room control.. nice.

Just previewed Cars Blu-ray with 2D->3D conversion (17 depth, 0 angle) and it looked FANTASTIC. Even Avatar Blu-ray converted looked nice. Hopefully the 3D version will look better yet.
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vanns has it in stock with free bluray player and 2 extra glasses, so you will have a total of 6 glasses..audioholics did have it in stock..
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ttp://live.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.asp?total_id=5561739&ctg=1105&tm=n_sokbo
This article said 65LW6500 is 120Hz and not FPR panel but AUO's GPR panel (sorry for broken url i'm new here so I can't post url)
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Hey guys I am really considering buying this TV. I love the Passive 3D and everything.

I am debating between, LW6500 and the Sony NX810.
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Looks like the 9800 series is only 47 & 55". Only the 6500 series will be 65".

Here is the manual from the CD. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K0J8Q2PF

No reference to 240Hz or 120Hz for that matter. Searched TruMotion and nothing is listed in specs. It may be buried somewhere else.

Noticed RS-232 is standard for room control.. nice.

Just previewed Cars Blu-ray with 2D->3D conversion (17 depth, 0 angle) and it looked FANTASTIC. Even Avatar Blu-ray converted looked nice. Hopefully the 3D version will look better yet.

Jim HTPC, thanks for going through the trouble of uploading the Owner's Manual. Just in case you're interested and didn't see it, somewhere over in the LCD Forum in the "2011 LG" thread, someone else has also posted a link to a slightly newer revision of the same manual.

It's odd that it really makes no mention of refresh rates or Trumotion anywhere for this tv. Although I guess we need to keep in mind that it wasn't very long ago at all that LG decided to do away with Active 3D altogether and switch everything over to Passive, so if they're a little bit behind-the-ball on updating their website or reference manuals, I suppose we can forgive 'em. For now.

Anyway, based on the 65LW6500 spec sheet and all other recent info displayed by retailers, I'm just going to assume from this point forward that the 65LW6500 is indeed only a 120Hz tv, more akin to the 5600 series. In all fairness, I think LG probably should have then called it a 65LW5600, to be more upfront with their customers...or at least plastered it somewhere on/in the box or mentioned it in the manual since it's the only 6500 model that isn't 240Hz. But hopefully that fact won't end up really mattering too much in the end. For their largest sized tv, it woulda been nice though...even if it ended up not being truly noticeable to the naked eye as helping with fast motion or 3D.

My whole reason for bringing any of this up (which I hope turns out to be baseless) was due to someone mentioning the possibility that the new 1080i algorithm that LG will be rolling out soon for their passive Cinema 3D tvs might somehow require that the tv be a 240Hz model. The only real difference between the LW5600 series and the LW6500 series (well, 2 out of the 3 6500's anyways) is the 240Hz refresh rate. If a person purchases the 65LW6500, which was originally marketed as being 240Hz (which is a ~$300 premium over 120Hz sets judging by the prices on LG's site between comparably sized 5600 and 6500 models), and then it ends up being that you can't even enjoy the benefits (if they're even noticeable) of the upcoming firmware update containing the new 1080i algorithm, then I'd be pretty upset. Don't get me wrong, they're already great 3D sets (I've only seen the 55LW5600 myself, but was impressed). It's just that there's already a rather huge premium on the 65LW6500 over the 55LW6500, so toss in another $300 markup on top since the 65LW6500 should actually be called a 65LW5600 based on it's specs. I mean, the 65LW6500 was put in the 6500 lineup and marketed as such for a reason, wasn't it? Other than it's sheer size (which I love, btw), what's the thinking/justification for including it as a part of the LW6500 lineup?

Again, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, and I don't even know if there's any merit to my worries here, or if the 1080i algorithm update will indeed apply to ALL Cinema 3D tvs (fingers crossed!). I'm only going off of what I've read posted here and elsewhere, and certainly don't have all the answers, obviously. Not even close. I'm just some dude who does his homework (and then some) before a purchase, who's looking to buy a 65"+ class 3D tv!

I realize that's a lot of ifs and buts. If anyone can help remove some of those ifs and buts from my conscience, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks!
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The user manual;s available over the interned normally have no country relative information contained in them since the requester may be in a country with 60Hz power or 50Hz power. So they don't say if they have 240Hz native refreh rate or a 200Hz native refresh rate.
Normaly the user's manual on the CD's that come with the displays are correct relative to the country in which the TV/display was sold.
A 3D set sold in the USA which can process 1080i/60 3D content is normally a 240Hz display to enable 120Hz per eye consisting of the 60fps of video content followed by a black frame in order to reduce or eliminate 3D video crosstalk
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I've come across an LG 3D set at Best Buy. It has a brushed metal bezal with plastic edges.

There was a movie in the player, so I picked up the glasses, which where very light ( *I assume passive) and pressed play.

Being the first time seeing a movie in 3D ~ Walt Disneys' latest flick, I was impressed at first how crisp it was, no ghosting or blurring, just sharp 3D depth image> I watched the part where the witch picks the flower, and this whole seen made it look like there was an actual physical body'd entity present on the other side of a glass or something, really cool effect> I can see how children could become scared of something like this for sure.

* 3D done this way is kinda cool, but I'd have to see an action flick or something to see if it's worth enjoying more.
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Here a review about LG's LG 55LW5600 Passive 3D LCD display:


http://www.ultimateavmag.com/content...3d-flat-panels

QUOTE:

I must say that lots of 3D content I've seen on passive panels looks sharper than I would expect with the vertical resolution of only 540 lines. On the other hand, the 3D effect doesn't quite "jell" as completely as it does on active displays—it feels a bit discombobulated.
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