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post #31 of 190 Old 05-29-2011, 03:09 PM
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Would you believe I got the 47" today at Walmart for $600? For a 3D TV, simply could not not buy it. For some reason it was marked as clearance, I think they goofed.

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You lucky SOB!

I just stopped by today to see if they had any Memorial Day Sales...still $898.
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Yup. The 42's were regular price as well. Definately a goof on their part. I was going to wait to read some more professional reviews/tests but could not pass up saving $300.

As a PC monitor it's not as good as my sammy 40" LCD was; you can see the horizontal black lines in text. 2D bluRay is good, 3D is also good. You can see stairstepping on horizonal angles but otherwise the "540p" per eye issue is largely overblown so far IMO. Watched RE:Afterlife last night and was impressed by the detail. I was expecting the softness from the hometheatrereview writeup but did not see it.

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I have a request. Can ya'll take a look at the 2 minute preview of Drive Angry on Vudu and tell me if you get a disorientating white flash during the quick edits between scenes? This is my first foray into 3D and am wondering what causes that. It looks like only one eye is seeing the edit flash.

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I have a request. Can ya'll take a look at the 2 minute preview of Drive Angry on Vudu and tell me if you get a disorientating white flash during the quick edits between scenes? This is my first foray into 3D and am wondering what causes that. It looks like only one eye is seeing the edit flash.

Well, i'm not seeing exaxtly what you seem to be seeing. The edits are annoying, but the flash isn't very hard.

Basically, hard edit action movies made bad 3D movies. The human mind needs to be eased between scenes. In 2D it's just annoying, to some, for edits to flash back and forth. In 3d it can give you a gripping headache and lead to all sorts of visual processing errors.
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Well, i'm not seeing exaxtly what you seem to be seeing. The edits are annoying, but the flash isn't very hard.

Basically, hard edit action movies made bad 3D movies. The human mind needs to be eased between scenes. In 2D it's just annoying, to some, for edits to flash back and forth. In 3d it can give you a gripping headache and lead to all sorts of visual processing errors.

That's what I figured. I guess I described it badly, it looks like only one eye is catching the flash so both aren't seeing the cut correctly. very irritating, still the 3d effect in that trailer was very impressive.

Thanks for looking.

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When in channel mode, how do you get the tv channel guide to come up? I used to be able to get it by pressing the guide button, but now that does the same thing as the info button. Was great when it worked.
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I posted my review on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1JTA98...tag=&linkCode=

Value wise I'd give it a 9 out of 10. Since amazon only has 1 to 5 I rounded up to a 5, its hard to find a newly released tv, let alone 3d tv with it's features at this price. Picture wise CCFL's have their limits with contrast and backlight uniformity, but buying it I expected it's limitations. Perfectionists are going to want led or another technology.

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Just one question... how close to the TV can you comfortably sit in 3D mode without really losing quality due to the retarder? I've read that the manual suggests six feet, but I was hoping to be able to get a little closer. Thanks for your thoughtful review.
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I sit 8.5 feet from my 32" and the 3d is perfect. You must watch at eye level.
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I'm at about 5' from a 47" as my PC monitor. Depends on how you define "losing quality." You lose some cause it's passive but then again you've got 3D for cheap ($600 in my case).

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I can sit as close as 4 ft from my 42" without noticing the lines much if any, when I get less than that to around 3 you can see the interlacing effect. I sit at 5-6ft to get the most out of the tv size, resolution, and 3d effect.

I'm considering a htpc but want one that will support 3d through hdmi not vga. Did you try 3d gaming on it? if so how did you set it up?
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I can sit as close as 4 ft from my 42" without noticing the lines much if any, when I get less than that to around 3 you can see the interlacing effect. I sit at 5-6ft to get the most out of the tv size, resolution, and 3d effect.

I'm considering a htpc but want one that will support 3d through hdmi not vga. Did you try 3d gaming on it? if so how did you set it up?

The only time the interlacing annoys me is in the text on websites and such. Playing games I don't even notice it - watching blu ray neither.

I've tried nvidia's 3DPlay, but it only works at 1024x720 which is just sad. Other games that natively support it are great. Crysis 2 (PC) @ 1920x1080 is superb. Watched a 3D trailer for Uncharted 3 on PS3 - also outstanding.

Also, others note that this vizio doesn't do 2D-3D movie conversion, well I'm trying to get cyberlink's powerDVD 10, it's supposed to do conversion and at $75 a heck of a lot cheaper than buying the LG passive set.

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Also, others note that this vizio doesn't do 2D-3D movie conversion, well I'm trying to get cyberlink's powerDVD 10, it's supposed to do conversion and at $75 a heck of a lot cheaper than buying the LG passive set.

You can also get a blu-ray player that does 2d-3d, Panasonic has 3 that will do this. On amazon you can get the cheapest without wifi for $115 http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMP-.../dp/B004LNFJCQ . The panasonic's also have a mail in offer for free 3d avatar!

I just wish the ps3 had the features it had, it could easily handle it with the cpu it has. Come on Sony!
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Also, others note that this vizio doesn't do 2D-3D movie conversion, well I'm trying to get cyberlink's powerDVD 10, it's supposed to do conversion and at $75 a heck of a lot cheaper than buying the LG passive set.

Finally tried cyberlink's powerdvd 10 Ultra. It does 2d-3D conversion. I had an earlier OEM version so was able to upgrade for $75. I was only disappointed that it can't upconvert blu-ray 2d, only DVD 2D. As for the actual conversion, it does work and adds depth which you can adjust via a slider. Nothing really pops out at you but as I said it does add depth. One other advantage, to me it seems the 2d conversion combined with passive interlacing increases the contrast and sharpness of standard def pictures. My opinion only and it could be a perception issue, but there it is.

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Finally tried cyberlink's powerdvd 10 Ultra. It does 2d-3D conversion. I had an earlier OEM version so was able to upgrade for $75.

powerdvd 11 lets you convert blu-rays.
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I just got the 47" today to try out. Is there a list of recommended picture settings?
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I just got the 47" today to try out. Is there a list of recommended picture settings?

Their E470VL seems to be the 2D version of this set so I used Cnet's settings as a start.

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Anyone experiencing some bad motion blur with the 47" unit? I've had this set for a few days now and like it, except I ran into some bad blurring last night watching the Yankees/Indians game. When they were throwing the ball from the outfield, it looked like a comet passing by. This was with all the motion flow stuff off.
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Anyone experiencing some bad motion blur with the 47" unit? I've had this set for a few days now and like it, except I ran into some bad blurring last night watching the Yankees/Indians game. When they were throwing the ball from the outfield, it looked like a comet passing by. This was with all the motion flow stuff off.

Not me. I do notice judder watching film so I have motion flow on.

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Just received the 32 in from amazon yesterday. Like the tv, but I am having problems connecting it to my wireless router. Just wondering if anyone else had any issues. My router is an old Buffalo wireless G. The tv see the router and asks for the passphrase. I must have entered the passphrase 30 times. It just keeps saying unable to connect.
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Try temporarily disabling the wifi password and see if it works, if it does it is likely a problem with the password or encryption. Try changing the password or using different encryption scheme (wep, wpa, wpa2). Also updating the firmware may help especially if it hasn't been updated in a long time.
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picked up the 32" - e3d320vx - from Walmart last week as well as a "high speed" DVI-HDMI cable (HDMI 1.4)

Works well with Netflix via built-in wifi

PC - connected to gaming PC (2x nVidia 9800GTX) via the DVI-HDMI cable but the mouse/keyboard lag is very bad unless you enable GAME mode in the settings, which sometimes you have to disable and re-enable.
Response time is also poor when playing full screen games compared to a 22" Vizio I tried out last month.

Have not yet been able to determine how to get 3D to work for PC games.
Do you need to enable the 3D in the nVidia driver settings as this does not seem to support the type of 3D as one of the 4 choices?

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EDIT - I discovered that for PC gaming you either have to have the special nVidia 3D Vision Pack with active glasses or you have to purchase additional NVIDIA 3DTV software for $40 and have an nVidia GTX260 or better

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-pl...uirements.html

134" of HD picture !!
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picked up the 32" - e3d320vx - from Walmart last week as well as a "high speed" DVI-HDMI cable (HDMI 1.4)

Works well with Netflix via built-in wifi

PC - connected to gaming PC (2x nVidia 9800GTX) via the DVI-HDMI cable but the mouse/keyboard lag is very bad unless you enable GAME mode in the settings, which sometimes you have to disable and re-enable.
Response time is also poor when playing full screen games compared to a 22" Vizio I tried out last month.

Have not yet been able to determine how to get 3D to work for PC games.
Do you need to enable the 3D in the nVidia driver settings as this does not seem to support the type of 3D as one of the 4 choices?

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EDIT - I discovered that for PC gaming you either have to have the special nVidia 3D Vision Pack with active glasses or you have to purchase additional NVIDIA 3DTV software for $40 and have an nVidia GTX260 or better

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-pl...uirements.html

You can try nvidia's 3DPlay for 14 days free. You can only do 1024x768 resolution with it though, blah. Crysis 2 supports 3D in-game at full res though.

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I look forward to your thoughts on the PC 3D gaming on this tv..
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Cannot do 3D on my PC it seems as my 2 x 9800GTX+ is not supported

Must have an nVidia GTX260 or better

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-pl...uirements.html

134" of HD picture !!
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I look forward to your thoughts on the PC 3D gaming on this tv..

Crysis 2 worked good, looked great in 3D. What else would you like to know?

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Crysis 2 worked good, looked great in 3D. What else would you like to know?

I happened upon a 47" display model on clearance at my local walmart.. Figured what the hey, even more reason to take the dive with the sale price + discount.. Also have a new computer I bought being shipped.. So by Friday, I should have all my questions answered..


One problem though.. I didn't get the manual with the tv.. and the Vizio website only has the "quick start" guide available.. The one question I currently have involves the "Media" app on the tv.. It says there are no media devices.. I was wondering what that app is used for? I'm thinking you can upload videos to your computer and share through the tv? I dont know, but it won't give me the option to setup a media device/outlet so i can't tell what it's for anyways..
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Media app is used for thumb drives with mp3, jpg and other files plugged into one of the usb ports on the tv. TV must be off when plugging and unplugging usb thumb drives.

For the manual, use the one listed for the E3D420VX, the manual that came with my 42" is for the 32", 42" and 47" tvs.
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Finally got around to watching Drive Angry. If you like Grindhouse flicks you'll like this one. 3D is reference quality IMO, even better than RE:Afterlife. At least till Avatar comes out I guess.

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