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post #1 of 343 Old 05-18-2011, 05:38 AM - Thread Starter
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I will be receiving this TV tomorrow so I thought I would start the thread.

This will be a 240 Hz model with passive 3D. It's my understanding that it uses the same 3D passive technology that LG is using.

Will give my non technical review ASAP.
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I've been waiting for someone to review a Toshiba passive! Please do let us know what you think!
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I've been waiting for someone to review a Toshiba passive! Please do let us know what you think!

Yeah, me too! I already have a new LG passive-3D set (the 55LW5600), so at this point my purchasing decision has already been made. But it looked like the Toshiba passive-3D models were going to be nice. My only problem was that there was nowhere nearby to actually see one in person...

Ironically, my LG purchase was "triggered" by my 20+ year old Toshiba 32" CRT set finally dying. (So the new LG went into my main viewing room, and my 8 year-old (or is it 9???) Mitsubishi 55" CRT-based rear-projection (big box)1080i HDTV moved to where the old Toshiba was. Actually, the old Toshiba didn't totally die - it was just having "intermittent red outages". Still, not bad for a 20+ year-old set!
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Saw one, ghosting started at a much lower angle above the screen than the LG.
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Bontrager, I'm dying to hear your thoughts, especially regarding 3D performance.
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O.k., here is my brief review of the 240Hz passive TV.

First the negatives:

1. One on the largest bases I have seen for any 55" TV; not necessary but the screen
tilts from side to side very easily.

2. When a gray screen is present I have noticed the usual light and dark areas
associated with all LED/LCD TV's ( I have not tried to reduce the back light option
which may help). However, it is not noticeable when watching any program material.
While watching a letterboxed DVD there was NOT any light bleed in the corners.

3. If you stand above the screen you lose the 3D image. This is also true of the LG
passive set. I was sitting at eye level approximately 4' from the screen; the 3D image was perfect.

Now for the positives:

1. Very sturdy back lit remote.

2. Excellent bright 3D picture; no ghosting. I was even able to increase the brightness
and contrast while in the 3D mode.

3. I was able to play a 3D video games for hours with NO eye strain or fatigue.

4. I did not notice any game lag either with the PS3 or computer games and this was
in the standard mode; didn't even try the "game" mode.

5. The 3D image is adjustable as far as depth is concerned but I have let it stand at
the default position.

6. There is an excellent amount of pop to the 3D picture which I feel exceeds my
Panasonic 3D plasma.

7. While in the 3D mode, watching a 3D DVD (wrong term) I didn't not notice a drop in resolution and I was sitting 4' from the screen.


I would rate this Toshiba 3D passive set a "buy". If it would have been available last year when I purchased an "active" set, I would have bought it instead. Also includes 4 pair of passive glassed. My active
XpanD 103's are already malfunctioning.

Any questions, please advise.
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Is the 3D image as bright as the LG models?
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I stand by my previous post. May not be a problem for everyone. I assume you bought a Toshiba because you got it for less than you could get an LG.
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Is the 3D image as bright as the LG models?

It certainly is.
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I stand by my previous post. May not be a problem for everyone. I assume you bought a Toshiba because you got it for less than you could get an LG.

You are correct + it's a 240 Hz vs. a 120Hz model and that really helps to justify the price difference.

Don't understand why there would be a difference in the loss of the 3D image at a given height, since I believe, Toshiba is using their panel.
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if i am buying a passive 3dtv, which one you prefer me to buy? toshiba or LG?
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if i am buying a passive 3dtv, which one you prefer me to buy? toshiba or LG?

For the money, the Toshiba. It's also 240Hz vs. 120Hz.

I an getting ready to try the 2d to 3d conversion; will report later.
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I believe the LG is 240hz in 3D mode which is the only way I watch it. I wonder if Toshiba is going or doing the 3D algorithm LG just updated to. I assume the 3D conversion is done differently in both sets?
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I believe the LG is 240hz in 3D mode which is the only way I watch it. I wonder if Toshiba is going or doing the 3D algorithm LG just updated to. I assume the 3D conversion is done differently in both sets?

The first passive LG models out of the shoot were 120Hz; (didn't know it was different in the 3Dmode) those were the only models that Best Buy carried. Still don't think that they have a 240Hz model in their stores.

Tried the 2D to 3D conversion yesterday for the first time while playing Crysis 2 on the PC. To me it look like the same conversion techniques that both Samsung and Panasonic have employed in there blu-ray players that can now convert 2D to 3D.

The center of the screen looks pushed back while the bottom 1/3 of the screen is pushed forward. Is it similar to the LG?

Not a bad attempt at the 2D to 3D conversion.

Bottom line is that you can't go wrong with either set and I believe that "active" 3D will shortly be a thing of the past IMHO.

Wish I had the 65" model but it's out of my budget.
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No,the LG doesn't look like that. I've seen them all, except the Toshiba, and it is the best.
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How new is this TV? I'm considering buying it for 2D/3D Blu-Ray and 3D gaming on PS3.
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How new is this TV? I'm considering buying it for 2D/3D Blu-Ray and 3D gaming on PS3.


The Toshiba version have been available for about 2 or 3 weeks.
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If I got this TV, it would be wall mounted a slight bit above the middle of the wall. When sitting on the couch, I would be slightly under eye level... will this cause an issue? Also most of the time the two couches are on either side of the room and anyone sitting there would be looking at the TV at a slight angle... would this be an issue?

Also, does this TV have composite and component?
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You will want the TV screen at your seated eye level. The vertical angle on the current passive sets seem to be a little more forgiving if placed slightly higher, but not lower. (This is not an issue for me as I watch all TV at eye level anyway.) However, if you are of the mindset to mount it high, you might have an issue.

Viewing from off center horizontally is no worse than any other LCD set from what I can see.
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We should probably be ok. The bottom half of the TV is eye level so it's really not that far up. You have to barely look up to see the TV. I heard it's worse if you are looking down on the TV.
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Exactly.
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I guess my only worry at this point is the lowered resolution. I'll be playing PS3 games in 3D... will they look horrible? Most of them are 720 and not 1080.
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I guess my only worry at this point is the lowered resolution. I'll be playing PS3 games in 3D... will they look horrible? Most of them are 720 and not 1080.

Yesterday, I spent about 90 minutes playing the PS3 version of Crysis2 in 3D.

The resolution of the game looked just as good on this passive set as on my 3D Panasonic Plasma (active shutter glasses) and with a brighter picture(Toshiba).

And while the Panasonic set was the 2010 3D TV of the year the Toshiba has less if no any ghosting.

Really don't think you will be disappointed!
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Anyone know if the 515Us will be getting 1080i 3D firmware updates like the LGs?

Going back and forth between the 55TL515U and the LG 55LW5600. If the Tosh's are getting the new FW, that would pretty much seal my decision.
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Anyone know if the 515Us will be getting 1080i 3D firmware updates like the LGs?

Going back and forth between the 55TL515U and the LG 55LW5600. If the Tosh's are getting the new FW, that would pretty much seal my decision.

What does the 1080i 3D firmware do?
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Mentioned here:
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/content...3d-flat-panels

It is supposed to improve the resolution in 3D mode.
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I'm betting it's all marketing hype, and won't do a thing.
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I'm getting the 42" TOSHIBA passive 3D tv
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I will be receiving this TV tomorrow so I thought I would start the thread.

This will be a 240 Hz model with passive 3D. It's my understanding that it uses the same 3D passive technology that LG is using.

Will give my non technical review ASAP.
can you please post some pics - of the TV on, but also the bezel, remote, stand etc. - there seem to be very few pictures out there, bar the 3 publicity shots that don't show too much...
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Can anyone confirm that there is not input lag using the Gaming Mode settings on the TL515U series of TVs? I recently bought an LG 47LW5600, but the input lag is way to bad to play Black Ops on my Xbox 360. I want to return it and possibly get a 47TL515U. This TV is on super sale right now (not sure for how long), but I don't want to pull the trigger on another failed gaming TV unless I know the lag is not an issue. Thanks.
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