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Anyone tried to use iPad New as 3D source for HMZ-T1?
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When I first got my HMZ-T1 I found it to be very uncomfortable.

So I got myself a welders insert and tried that - no go.

So I got myself a cycle helmet and tried that - no go.

Put the original harness back onto the HMZ-T1 and was just about to give up when I had a brainwave.

Put my beanie on (it's cold here in Oz) and then the HMZ-T1 and the result was just brilliant. So a $10 beanie solved all of my problems

A beanie means different things in many places. How about a picture.

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A beanie is a knitted hat that wraps around your head, usually covering the ears.
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A beanie is a knitted hat that wraps around your head, usually covering the ears.

Got it! Thanks.

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That guy is either high, idiot or has severe ADD. I never read such a lengthy mess of thoughts with essentially zero useful information. The only thing I got from his inane gibberrish is that st1080 is easier to put on one's head (if you haven't figured it out from pics yet). But then if you look at his blog you will get a picture...

Yeah it's difficult to even read most of what that guy wrote. I sorted through the jumble and pulled the useful bits of what he said out here:

http://roadtovr.wordpress.com/2012/0...s-hit-the-web/
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benz145 - thanks for making it more simple to understand as Shakespearean english i cannot understand

Can u please post the entire review [part 1 thru 4 ] summerized

all i have been able to get is

1)smd is better comfortwise
2)colors are ok but not that good compared to hmz-1
3)st01080 is easy to mount and unmount on ur head
4)text is sharper than that on HMZ
5)st1080 causes less eye strain than HMZ
6)3d is great on st1080 than on HMZ espacially in games in 1080p sbs mode
7)3d is less immersive in a small win window as no scaling from 720p to 1080p built-in

plz let me know if i missed anything or correct me instead
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Seems ur spot on there really .. Colours n blacks may be a downer from the hmz-1 but it have sum things that i see as improvments over the sony. My first thoughts is this may be better as a gaming device vs the hmz-1.
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4)text is sharper than that on HMZ

Everything sholud be sharper on the ST1080, considering they have markedly different resolution specs, so this is not too surprising. The two image panels of the Sony have a combined total of 1.8 million pixels, whereas the two image panels of the Silicon Micro Display have more than double that: 4.1 million pixels.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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The silicon optics is dectected as a 100" screen using a x360 unlike sonys that is a 72"
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FYI: According the manufacturer's Blog page, there is to be a firmware update in the next month or so to allow the 720p mode to scale to the same image size as the 1080p.

Just ordered mine yesterday.
Also pre-ordered the Leap from Leap Motion. Search for it on youtube. Holy moley!!

Combined with the hmd & TrackIR head tracking and I will be in Nerd Nirvana!

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LEAP looks like fun and super cool, but completely pointless from the practical point of view.

Try extending your arms in front of you and keep them extended or do continuous motions for more than a minute, getting tired yet? How long will you be able to keep without getting exhausted?

I'll keep my hand comfortably resting on the table, holding mouse for now, thank you.

But I do see it being practical for maybe business demos, but I just don't see any use for that thing in home environment.
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Leap looks like an interesting gimmick, for now, and someday I'm sure we'll all be using an advanced form of it, but I suspect in these early stages, if given the choice of a mouse, or it, after a day's use you'd be begging to get the mouse back.
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It reminds me a a gyro controlled remote that came with a Sony recevier, that was once on the market : you might show it off when visitors come over, showing how your hand/arm gestures changed the OSD GUI, but you ditch it and return to the normal remote, as soon as they leave!

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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Is HMZ-T1 made in China or Japan?
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is made in japan.
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benz145 - thanks for making it more simple to understand as Shakespearean english i cannot understand

Can u please post the entire review [part 1 thru 4 ] summerized

all i have been able to get is

1)smd is better comfortwise
2)colors are ok but not that good compared to hmz-1
3)st01080 is easy to mount and unmount on ur head
4)text is sharper than that on HMZ
5)st1080 causes less eye strain than HMZ
6)3d is great on st1080 than on HMZ espacially in games in 1080p sbs mode
7)3d is less immersive in a small win window as no scaling from 720p to 1080p built-in

plz let me know if i missed anything or correct me instead

It seemed like he said most games on PS3 and Xbox were incompatible. This seems to be a major drawback for someone like me who doesn't do PC.
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Only in 3D as the ps3 n 360 cant scale up 3D to 1080p ...
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benz145 - thanks for making it more simple to understand as Shakespearean english i cannot understand

Can u please post the entire review [part 1 thru 4 ] summerized

all i have been able to get is

1)smd is better comfortwise
2)colors are ok but not that good compared to hmz-1
3)st01080 is easy to mount and unmount on ur head
4)text is sharper than that on HMZ
5)st1080 causes less eye strain than HMZ
6)3d is great on st1080 than on HMZ espacially in games in 1080p sbs mode
7)3d is less immersive in a small win window as no scaling from 720p to 1080p built-in

plz let me know if i missed anything or correct me instead

Looks like you got most of the important parts. I don't really know how that guy can write so poorly, his site is a mess!

I found another ST1080 user review and also pulled out the good info here:

http://roadtovr.wordpress.com/2012/0...opens-a-forum/

I should be getting my hands on the ST1080 in the next few weeks and plan on doing a detailed review that will hopefully answer most questions!
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^Benz145, are you susceptible to rainbow distortion, for example, on some DLPs? [Only some people see it, many don't.] If so, would you please look for that when you get the ST1080 and report back? Thanks.

P.S. I find a fairly foolproof method to look for it is to check out the THX Optimizer Aspect Ration circle pattern at the end of THX movies and to quickly dart one's eyes from left screen edge to right screen edge, BTW.

Rainbow distortion isn't an automatic deal breaker for me personally, but I do want to know what level of it the ST1080 has, if any. Some reports have mentioned it has at least some degree of it since it also is a sequential color technology device, as are DLPs.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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^Benz145, are you susceptible to rainbow distortion, for example, on some DLPs? [Only some people see it, many don't.] If so, would you please look for that when you get the ST1080 and report back? Thanks.

Good question. The screens are LCoS. At least for projectors, some articles say that "There are no screen door or rainbow effects with an LCoS" projector. Found this under the "Advantages and Disadvantages of LCoS" section. Demystifying DLP, LCD, and LCoS

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LCoS pj and LCoS micro displays for HMDs are not exactly the same thing. Most pjs are 3 chip and have a combining mirror/prism setup, but we know the ST1080 is just one display panel (per eye).

This following quote would seem to confirm the sequential color nature of the latter:

"A liquid crystal color field sequential (CFS) display presents three monochromatic images corresponding to the three primary colors (RGB) in a repetitive sequence and at a frame rate greater than the flicker fusion frequency for the human eye (180 Hz). Using 1 panel color field sequential solutions it is possible to build much smaller color projection engines compared to 3 panel solutions. CFS panels are mainly used in color projection applications were space is limited (Head Mounted Displays - HMD; Heads-up-Displays - HUD; ...)." [emphasis mine]


Source

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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LCoS pj and LCoS micro displays for HMDs are not exactly the same thing. Most pjs are 3 chip and have a combining mirror/prism setup, but we know the ST1080 is just one display panel (per eye).
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Thanks! Looks like a good resource.

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^Benz145, are you susceptible to rainbow distortion, for example, on some DLPs? [Only some people see it, many don't.] If so, would you please look for that when you get the ST1080 and report back? Thanks.

P.S. I find a fairly foolproof method to look for it is to check out the THX Optimizer Aspect Ration circle pattern at the end of THX movies and to quickly dart one's eyes from left screen edge to right screen edge, BTW.

Rainbow distortion isn't an automatic deal breaker for me personally, but I do want to know what level of it the ST1080 has, if any. Some reports have mentioned it has at least some degree of it since it also is a sequential color technology device, as are DLPs.

Yes I've seen this before on some displays and will certainly keep my eyes out for it.
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Hey HMD fans, there's some really interesting news about a 90 degree field of view HMD which you might be interested in. I don't want to hijack this thread so please head here for discussion!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post22080696
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hi guy,

i really loving my current modified sony hmz which provide clear focus with no blur issue also i solved my comfort issue so my question is how long will sony hmz last with current usage like everyday 2-3hour playtime? will it have the same longevity like the current lcd tv or plasma tv?

Thanks
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I just ordered the sony hmz also.

So let see how it performs....
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Oled life span is 30000hours, its the blue sub pixle that fades away wirh time
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OLED is so new it doesn't have a real track history to analyze, however Sony's claim of 30,000 hours (before a 50% loss of brightness) has been challenged by an independent research group testing actual production models of their 2008 OLED 11 inch TV:

http://www.reghardware.com/2008/05/1...rch_sony_oled/

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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Picture quality wise, hmz-t1 wins
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Picture quality wise, hmz-t1 wins

Is that comment from a personal experience comparison of the two models or just extrapolated from what you've read?
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Hoping the silicon optics one will be better than sonys hmz-1 but im sceptical on sum "issues" thats come up like light bleed on the optics, gray blacks, just brightness adjustments no colour ones at all and the report of blurry top corners on it ...

Then again 1080p is the main reason im keen on it but holding back still vs ordring one untill more users posts they thoughts
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