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With all the buzz at the moment focused around Blu Ray 3D and Sony announcing that the PS3 will be 3d compatible is there any chance that LG will release a 3D firmware update?
I read that it is theoretically possible to upgrade any HDMI 1.3 Blu-ray player to deliver 3D, as long as the manufacturer designed the device to allow it.
If LG do release a firmware update would the performance suffer because the processing hardware of the LG is slower than newer models???
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I think it would be a no go even if the BH200 could handle 3D. I say that because the updates are pretty much non-existant for this player as it already is. I just don't see LG investing a lot of money on continued development of their older players. LG is not the only one doing this, on the other hand some of the manufactures have shown wonderful support for their older players.

It will be interesting to see how many older players get the upgrade. Glad I have a PS3, I won't have to wonder if any of my other BD players will get the upgrade.

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This thing isn't even getting 2D updates and you're hoping for 3D?
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The BH200 would require a hardware change to be able to sync shutter glasses. Maybe theoretically they could stick an IR emitter into the USB port.

But really, I'm 100% sure they wouldn't add 3D to the BH200 unless for some strange reason it was a trivial task to add.
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No.
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Once I saw this thread title, I knew exactly what to expect within its contents.
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I'm 100% sure I don't care about 3D. Especially with stupid glasses.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it.

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i'm 100% sure i don't care about 3d. Especially with stupid glasses.

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Even if it could pull it off, the rest of the world will be watching 4D movies by then...
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I'm 100% sure I don't care about 3D. Especially with stupid glasses.

I watched Coraline Blu-Ray in 3D. While it was a great experience you could not help but notice the colors being way different due to the supplied 3D glasses.

Am I wrong in thinking that new 3D Blu-Ray players along with a 3D capable HDTV will not require 3D glasses?

If glasses are still required, I don't understand all the hype as we can already watch with glasses today.

If glasses are not required I can see this being an awesome step for home video as the clarity and color of Blu-Ray will stand out in 3D big time, again Coraline was awesome in 3D but still I would watch it much more often in its regular 2D format because of the need for 3D glasses and how much better it really looks.

Although my PS3 will cover me for a 3D player it should be a long time before I get any new HDTVs. I will be curious to see how the currently 3D ready Dlp HDTVS will look/handle this new twist on the format, I would think my friends Sony SXRD TV/PS3 would be capable so maybe I will get to check it out once this all becomes available.

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Yes, you are wrong...glasses (expensive ones in some cases, depending on the tech) will definitely be required. The new tech ensures better color reproduction among other things. I'm not touching it either...
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I watched Coraline Blu-Ray in 3D. While it was a great experience you could not help but notice the colors being way different due to the supplied 3D glasses.

That was because they were using old 3D technology. The new stuff will use either polarized glasses or active shutter glasses - and will not drastically impact the colors.

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Am I wrong in thinking that new 3D Blu-Ray players along with a 3D capable HDTV will not require 3D glasses?

Yes you are wrong. The technology being talked about will require glasses and a 3D capable display.

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If glasses are still required, I don't understand all the hype as we can already watch with glasses today.

Well, let's call it excitement. I believe that the "Avitar" experience is driving a lot of folks to be interested. But keep in mind, that the glasses are quite different than they were in Coraline.

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Although my PS3 will cover me for a 3D player it should be a long time before I get any new HDTVs. I will be curious to see how the currently 3D ready Dlp HDTVS will look/handle this new twist on the format, I would think my friends Sony SXRD TV/PS3 would be capable so maybe I will get to check it out once this all becomes available.

No, your friend's SXRD (I have one too) will not be able to handle 3D like the new sets. However, there are some methods using PCs to adapt 2D sets to 3D. AFAIK these haven't reached the point yet where they will accept 3D Blu-rays, but that time will no doubt come.

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The BH200 would require a hardware change to be able to sync shutter glasses. Maybe theoretically they could stick an IR emitter into the USB port.

But really, I'm 100% sure they wouldn't add 3D to the BH200 unless for some strange reason it was a trivial task to add.

The glasses get the sync signal from the TV, not the Blu-ray player.

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I doubt any manufacturer would release a firmware update to add support for 3D, even if they could. The problem is that the 3D Blu-ray Discs use a new codec called MVC that older players don't support. In addition 3D Blu-ray Discs raise the maximum throughput from 40Mbps to 60Mbps which means the drive needs to be able to spin faster than 1x.

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I doubt any manufacturer would release a firmware update to add support for 3D, even if they could. The problem is that the 3D Blu-ray Discs use a new codec called MVC that older players don't support. In addition 3D Blu-ray Discs raise the maximum throughput from 40Mbps to 60Mbps which means the drive needs to be able to spin faster than 1x.

Comments on the PS3 then?

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Comments on the PS3 then?

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The PlayStation 3 features a slot-loading 2x speed Blu-ray Disc drive for games, Blu-ray movies, DVDs, CDs, and other optical media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3

Yes Lee, we all know that!

The question is how bdraw sees the PS3 fitting into the statement that he made.

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Yes Lee, we all know that!

The question is how bdraw sees the PS3 fitting into the statement that he made.

Where is the problem? Here is what he said:

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The problem is that the 3D Blu-ray Discs use a new codec called MVC that older players don't support. In addition 3D Blu-ray Discs raise the maximum throughput from 40Mbps to 60Mbps which means the drive needs to be able to spin faster than 1x.

Decoding AVC MVC? The PS3 contains the Cell BE. A fully upgradeable "SoC."

Faster than 1X speed drive? The PS3 comes with a 2X speed drive.
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Aren't they using PS3s for the Sony Style 3D demos?
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