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post #181 of 187 Old 08-21-2014, 12:00 AM
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FWIW- I use the exposure and focus mostly and rely on the auto 3D setting when I shoot.
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That makes sense Don. Thanks for the info.
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No, Sony can't fix it. At least in Europe

I had a TD10, with focus error on the right lens.
I bought it in Austria, and because of EU warranty i send it 3 times to
hungarian service for repair. They changed the right lens completely, tried
to calibrate, etc. but finally i got my cam back worse than it was.
They said i have to go to Sony Austria for replace unit or money back.
The austrian service also tried to fix it 2 times, without luck, so
i have my money back. I wanted to buy a TD20 because the lack
of internal memory of TD30, but this model was discontinued, so
now i have a TD30. It's a lot better (ok, smaller base, but that's all)
Focus is acceptable for me. Rarely i see the left picture sharper, when
there is lot of detail/motion in scene, but i think this is only because of
MVC compression, 28mbps is not enough for such scenes.

So what i like in TD30 after TD10?
- AE shift
- white balance shift
- 3D depth setting to auto (adjust parallax)
- smaller, lighter
- built in lamp
-3 customizable function button
- smaller base (good for macro)

And what i don't like
- smaller base
- slowest zoom speed is still fast, pana can do slower
- no possibility to hide all OSD from the screen
- no manual white balance (or at least lock)
- no filter ring (polar, sunshade, macro, etc)
- 2D display switch - not remember when power on/off
- limit AGC function only in 2D mode
- interlace 3D

regards!
To the best of my knowledge the TD20 also already has AE shift in 3D Mode. This is a fundamental adjustment missing from the TD10 and many people comment it being finally present on the TD30, but in fact the feature was already available on the TD20. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I am on the market for a second-hand or refurbished TD20 that I think is far superior than the TD30. The TD30 is basically the same camera as the TD20, less some hardware features and with cheaper build.
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Please correct me if I am wrong.
No, you are right, but i don't wrote the opposite.
Read the post again, i compared td10 vs td30.
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No, you are right, but i don't wrote the opposite.
Read the post again, i compared td10 vs td30.
Thank you for the info, relaxman.

I found a brand new TD20 for a very good price as a kit at a SonyStyle shop for a closeout, last TD20 unit they had.. actually last 3D Unit period, as they dont carry the TD30 either anymore. Came with original Sony carrying case, extra Sony battery, extra SD Card and a few other things, and just bought it. Super excited and ready to start doing some shooting tomorrow.

I have the feeling suddenly 3D is out of fashion and everyone is only hyped about 4K, that looks like 1080p anyway at your average viewing distance. I dont get it. I just wanna laugh with these new 5" cell phones that have 2K and higger and soon 4K displays as if ANYONE can see the difference anymore. And the talk about 8K already started.. Seems the lifetime of each TV standard is less and less.. SD was 40 years, HD less than 15 years, 3D was trend for about 3, and now 4K is just barely in and people are talking about 8K already. Too funny..

Anyway, super happy to have finally a TD20. I have a feeling its going to be a great to use and enjoy and in years to come a rarity that can be greatly appreciated as it seems maybe there will not many follow-ups any time soon..
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I have the feeling suddenly 3D is out of fashion and everyone is only hyped about 4K, that looks like 1080p anyway at your average viewing distance. I dont get it. I just wanna laugh with these new 5" cell phones that have 2K and higger and soon 4K displays as if ANYONE can see the difference anymore. And the talk about 8K already started.. Seems the lifetime of each TV standard is less and less.. SD was 40 years, HD less than 15 years, 3D was trend for about 3, and now 4K is just barely in and people are talking about 8K already. .
WELL SAID😆 I couldn't agree with you more!
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4K is the cart before the 1080p horse--ie. cable and the whole dang streaming architecture including bluray--all have to catch up to 4K. The cost is going to be tremendous. 4K TVs including 3D 4k TVs are almost half the cost of last year, and most people don't have any sources for pushing 4K to them except some smartphones, a few expensive cameras and even more expensive camcorders. Really, 4K is nothing more than improved sharpness for 1080p through upscaling and that's it, and will be it for a couple of years.


Soon, we will have people on the content forum saying they don't want 4K because that isn't the way the director intended the movie to be seen--I chuckle...
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