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Video Binoculars - Who's Got Em?

Anyone shooting any 3D with video binoculars?

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1/3" sensor, 25x zoom, 20mp stills, a bit pricey at $2k, but it's very portable which I think is its biggest advantage. I haven't read much on them, but would these make a nice 3D camera? Fixed lenses so not great depth at distance.

Some cheaper ones out there. Sony Dev 3 priced at $650.00, only 10x zoom but it does 1080 60p 3D.

Anyone here have one?

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I have regular optical binoculars that also has a video and still shot recording to an SD card capability. It doesn't do 3D and doesn't use the binocular optics for the camera. I rarely use it except as regular binoculars.
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Anyone shooting any 3D with video binoculars?

Sony Dev 3 priced at $650.00, only 10x zoom but it does 1080 60p 3D.

Anyone here have one?
I have the DEV-3. Shot a ton of footage including cockpit footage from the last passenger DC-10 to fly.

It's a 10x zoom for 2D, and a 5x zoom for 3D. And it does 60i in 3D, not 60p FYI.

Pretty happy with it, it's a Sony TD10 in binocular form. I did bring an attached monitor and HDMI cable so I didn't always have to look through the viewfinders to record. However, I found that the monitor would often trip the camera from 3D to 2D when I hit the record button, so I stopped using it for the duration.

Overall generally happy with it, did ok in low light. I was going to buy the DEV-50 but read quite a few issues with the 3D alignment/lenses so went with the DEV-3. But it gets heavy after a while, and would like to find a DEV-50.

Over in Japan, there is a DEV-3 equivalent of the DEV-50 called naturally, the DEV-30.

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It's a 10x zoom for 2D, and a 5x zoom for 3D. And it does 60i in 3D, not 60p FYI.
Thanks for the update, I thought 60p setting was odd for 3D. I just took a look at the manual, it's 60p for PS mode only, which must just be for 2D.
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Thanks for the update, I thought 60p setting was odd for 3D. I just took a look at the manual, it's 60p for PS mode only, which must just be for 2D.
Correct - 60p is for 2D only. I wish it did 1080/60p!

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Just got an HDR-TD10 yesterday to compliment the DEV-3, and while I thought the DEV-3/5 was just an TD10 in binocular form (and generally still is), the IO distance of the DEV-3/5 is just a little bit wider than the TD10.

I also noticed the IO distance on the newer DEV-30/50 is considerably wider than the TD-10/DEV-3/5.

So for Sony IO distance, from narrow to widest, it appears TD-20/30 -> TD-10 -> DEV-3/5 -> DEV-30/50.

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Interesting, and have you noticed any difference with the 1/3" sensor compared to the 1/4"? How's the extra zoom range?

With the main feature being that these are binoculars, with distance shots being their main use, I would think they'd have much wider lens spacing, but no.

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Interesting, and have you noticed any difference with the 1/3" sensor compared to the 1/4"? How's the extra zoom range?

With the main feature being that these are binoculars, with distance shots being their main use, I would think they'd have much wider lens spacing, but no.
I only have the DEV-3 and the TD-10 which use the same 1/4 sensors. Also I just got the TD-10 last night so haven't had time to play with it and compare to the DEV-3.

And as you pointed out, the DEV-3 doesn't have enough spacing to get good 3D at distance. I took the DEV-3 after just getting it onto a project, and while the close distance 3D was great (especially in the cockpit), the long distance shots were rather flat.

In the trailer below, the exterior landing/take-off shots were shot with the DEV-3 and in post, they're fairly flat. It would have certainly benefited from an SBE. It doesn't help that there's not a lot of objects near a runway to use in the foreground to give depth to the shot.


I'll have to compare zoom ratios because in 3D, the DEV-3 has a 5x zoom, whereas the TD-10 has a 10x zoom.

I'm going to acquire a DEV-50 in the near future, and likely (pending further projects) a TD20/30.

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Oh, sorry. I thought you said Dev 50, I see you said TD 10.

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