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3D specialized software and gadgets

I thought there was a need for a thread that contains content useable by other threads, without getting embedded in one thread and ignored in another. Here's an example:
This software can be used to separate MVC files in L and R files: http://www.inv3.com/mvc_splitter
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Here's an interesting Kickstarter campaign with a twist on the old SLR 3D converter lens. My thoughts are that it would be useful for 4K cameras with wide-angle lenses.


http://www.kula3d.com/


They will have various formats include MPO and SBS files apparently.


By now, you probably all have seen the Poppy, (somewhat like Google Cardboard with a built-in camera): http://www.poppy3d.com/


And, of course, the Intel venture into 3D capture: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...3d-camera.html


These sunglasses are not stereo, but if you would want to take 2D, while holding on to your 3D setup, then these might be for you: http://www.spytecinc.com/inventio-hd...unglasses.html


And this is Barry's next camera (the price is right): http://www.adorama.com/SOPMWTD300.html
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Here's an interesting Kickstarter campaign with a twist on the old SLR 3D converter lens. My thoughts are that it would be useful for 4K cameras with wide-angle lenses.


http://www.kula3d.com/


They will have various formats include MPO and SBS files apparently.


By now, you probably all have seen the Poppy, (somewhat like Google Cardboard with a built-in camera): http://www.poppy3d.com/


And, of course, the Intel venture into 3D capture: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...3d-camera.html


These sunglasses are not stereo, but if you would want to take 2D, while holding on to your 3D setup, then these might be for you: http://www.spytecinc.com/inventio-hd...unglasses.html


And this is Barry's next camera (the price is right): http://www.adorama.com/SOPMWTD300.html
Damn, at that price, why not buy 2!! Looks like they're practically giving it away See, if you'd start following Don's stock tips, you could have one! I just wish that it was a little bigger though

Here's part of the description:
"Affordable and fully integrated, this 3D camcorder reduces the burden of complicated user adjustments before shooting, such as left- and right-lens alignment. The PMW-TD300 is a powerful tool to support the needs of professional 3D video production, combining mobility, stability and affordability."

It even says it's affordable. Who can argue with that. Also, it doesn't have all those complicated convergence controls like we have on the Gopros!

PS: It came out in 2011 so it's got all the cutting edge stuff too. I'll bet it's selling like hotcakes

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PS: It came out in 2011 so it's got all the cutting edge stuff too. I'll bet it's selling like hotcakes

Interesting how much money was invested in making 3D mainstream back then, and where the industry is now. I guess we can thank the 4K revolution for that.
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Interesting how much money was invested in making 3D mainstream back then, and where the industry is now. I guess we can thank the 4K revolution for that.
I think we can thank/blame the industry for the HORRIBLY BOTCHED rollout of 3D. They could hardly have done a worse job if they tried. The one bright spot from back then is that they did do a pretty good job with some of our comsumer/prosumer camcorders, for which I'm very grateful. Looks to me like they're going for a botched rollout repeat with 4K. Fire, aim, ready
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This software can be used to separate MVC files in L and R files: http://www.inv3.com/mvc_splitter
Isn't the following one:
http://www.3dtv.at/Products/MvcConverter/Index_en.aspx

much cheaper? It's very fast as well, at least for splitting JVC files.

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Bob, I'm assuming that you are also aware that Edius will split MVC files quite well
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Hello guys!

Here is the program I wrote for conversion between few stereo formats. Among other possibilities, it can be used for batch encoding side-by-side mp4 deinterlaced files from splitted JVC avi files, making time-lapses from pictures or video, etc. The program has some very interesting features as well which are important for me and I believe some of you might find them useful as well. The program with some accompanied files in zip form (3D_Converter_V098.zip) can be downloaded here:

http://dsc.ijs.si/damir.vrancic/down_3d/Software/

Don't forget to read pdf file (inside zipped file) which shortly explains some of the program options. When I find time, I'll try to make short tutorials as well.
You can get some of my 3D videos as well (in Full side-by-side or squeezed form) by going to parent directory and then into sub-directory "Movies".

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Wow, Damir, you really know your 3D stuff. I will give I a try. Thanks for posting.




Update: I just download your Spring Awakening in 3D-LR AVI video and it played perfectly in PowerDVD15. Very impressive! A neat way to get people to see the value of 3D as you go from black and white to color 3D in depth.

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Thanks, Bob, for kind words. Most of my club members were not so happy about blurred background, but it did not bother me too much. Once I will probably upload it to YouTube as well.

By the way, there is a new version of 3D converter available (3D_Converter_V099.zip), which is available at the same site as given above.
The changes are the following:

V0.99 (from V0.98)

- Added Reverse L-R option (which shuffles left and right video at the output stage)
- Blur option is added when defining output resolution. Useful when reducing output resolution (Moirre).
- Added save and load layout settings (all settings on the screen can be saved or loaded by the user)

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There is another version (V0.99b) of 3D converter which corrected problems related to file names or directory names which contained spaces (please, choose V099b zip version).

http://dsc.ijs.si/damir.vrancic/down_3d/Software/

Moreover, as I have promised before, I've done two short tutorials on YouTube for initial settings and conversion from separate L and R interlaced files to side-by-side progressive ones:

Tutorial 3D converter - initial settings:

Tutorial 3D converter - interlaced to progressive:

I am planning to add some more tutorials in the near future.

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Here's something to look for to in 2020--yeah, can you imagine what gopro will be like then? http://www.nature.com/news/south-kor...-plans-1.14159 South Korea is sending a rover to the moon around that time and with a stereo camera...by then maybe we will have holographic stereo
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This for all you 3D underwater shooters:

You don't need expensive diving equipment, just this gadget...
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This is a gadget that might come in handy for two-camera 3D setups, or just plain fun for a 2D dslr.



http://miops.com/
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The Miops I've had a look at first hand, my BIL got one when it was in Kickstarter, the first gen and second one. I'll be picking one up soon after I get my Nikon D800 next month. We think it will work with 3D with two DSLR's but will require a splitter. Will find out pretty soon because then we'll have two D800's to play with.
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Create your own 3D cloud. This should work with any 3D TV or bluray that has access to your wifi, I think.

https://meetlima.com/index.php?lang=en

I should clarify, I'm talking about the Lima Ultra that does HD streaming as well.


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Hmm, already have a free app for cloud. I use Plex.

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So here's some 4K and 8K with the old Nikon D800 that I found, no it doesn't shoot either natively for video, this is just shot bursts with a camera slider and frame interpolated in post.

https://vimeo.com/macgregor/sonbrull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=9lMItnVmZfw

Wish Nikon would finally get on the 4K bandwagon with full frame.

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This is the first drone I've seen that is really crash proof. Not 3D, but does have other travel possibilities in 4K video.

https://www.facebook.com/HoverCamera...type=2&theater
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Bob, I was excited about this but the specs say maximum control distance is 20 meters. That might mean 10-15 meters with 100% reliability.

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Bob, I was excited about this but the specs say maximum control distance is 20 meters. That might mean 10-15 meters with 100% reliability.
I was wondering about that too. My son has a different one--doesn't follow you--that he can control from about 500-1000 feet. He uses it over the lake he lives on to take wakeboarding video.

I think it all depends on what "control" means. There are definitely other "follow you" drones, but this one seemed especially crash proof, and people proof. There have been instances with other drones where they got to close and injured people's eyes, etc. with their props.
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Another 4k follow-you drone for $99 early bird on Indiegogo. Doesn't do 3D, but will spin around for a 360º shot. I'm in.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/k...follow-drone#/
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For all you diving buddies. This one's for you. Not 3D, but has some real possibilities for 4k underwater video.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/g...e-technology#/
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Another 4k follow-you drone for $99 early bird on Indiegogo. Doesn't do 3D, but will spin around for a 360º shot. I'm in.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/k...follow-drone#/
I know that little toy would not do for me. I would soon grow out of it's usefulness. Reminds me of my very first 3D camera. The 3D Bloggie. I played with it for one month and moved on.

I will probably order the DJI Mavic Pro when I get back home from this trip. I want to use it on my Alaskan Trip in July. The quality with a PL filter is amazing. Shoots 4K 30 fps either full frame 4096 or 3840 UHD. Has full lens and pro level color control from the remote control. AI flight modes for not so skilled Drone pilots like me. But best of all for a pro level camera it folds up the most compact I have seen.
https://store.dji.com/product/mavic-...cB#/?_k=8qh4it

Lots of YT video reviews to check out the quality.

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For all you diving buddies. This one's for you. Not 3D, but has some real possibilities for 4k underwater video.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/g...e-technology#/

While compact for an U/W drone, it is too much to transport on my travels. Would be nice for me to get below 5 ft again. I wonder if these guys will get that in production. The fine print claims it is a work in progress.

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Don, the DJI Mavic is a real "wow" machine, no doubt, and look forward to your experience with it.. The Kudrone is a toy, but it looks like a great way to test out how these follow you drones work. I will probably only use it a few times and then give it to my nephews, but it's cheap enough to try.
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I look forward to your experience with it too. My grandson got one for Christmas and it gets about 50 ft away and then just keeps going until the batteries are dead. From what I learned, these Drones operate with 3 types of radios. The ones with cellphone access are either Blue Tooth or Wifi and have very limited range. The better ones use a dedicated "RC" band and operate up to 5-6 miles. The advantage of the wifi or BT is you can use an app on your ipad or android pad, or smart phone as a controller. The Mavic Pro has a switch for wifi or RC.

But it's even better- If your Remote control or the smart phone locks up ( the Android smart phones have a history of the app crashing requiring a phone reset.) The drone will sense that and go into a hoover mode until it sees the controller again, or come back to "Home" where it took off. In any case, when the battery gets down to 30% it can be set to come home. When it gets down to 10% it will land on the spot it took off from. That's pretty cool. By contrast, my grandson's toy got about 100 feet away and just kept going until it crashed into a neighbor's house.

The other thing the Mavic Pro can do is detect cross wind speed and correct it's course automatically. This thing rivals the auto driving cars to avoid collisions. However in a severe test it did fail to detect tree branches when backing up and got stuck in the tree with broken props, so it isn't perfect.

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Don, the one thing that bothers me about all these drones is that the exposed blades can really do some damage to people if not used properly. And even more so with the Mavic since it has more power and industrial strength. My son has had two. The first one got tangled in his fiancé's hair and had to be cut out. Not a pretty site. Just don't drink and drive,,
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The Mavic Pro has really superior collision detection. There are YT videos where users attempt to crash it into objects and even people and it just doesn't. But you're right the little toys are actually more dangerous with respect to hitting people or flying into other vehicles. The one video I did see was where one was backed into a tree, no leaves, and then it couldn't get out before the props hit branches and broke. But the guy had the auto pilot off and was flying in "sport mode" or all manual.

For those who still are concerned, a 3rd party company makes shrouds for the propellers.

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Bob- Looking at the downside of a Drone investment today and I don't find the danger in them but what I did learn, is authorities want to destroy the hobby drone industry with all sorts of claims that are, well unbelievable! Police are arresting hobbyists now for madeup on the fly reasons.

1. City police are issuing tickets for flying a drone with a camera because it violates privacy. (yet it's OK for the police to have cameras at every intersection in most cities)
2. Police are arresting drone flyers for trespass by flying over the airspace of private property.
3. The FAA in cooperation with NPS police have a part of the agency that scours YT of Drone videos and then tracks down the person and fines them for landing a "commercial aircraft" outside of an airport.
4. Police have arrested Drone fliers for endangering other people in a city park with a drone when the flier was the only one in the park.
5. Flying a drone high over wildlife in the country is said to be harassment and you can be arrested for that on public lands, if you disturb the flight of a bird, or a wild animal takes notice of the drone.

Government agencies appear to want to target drone flying as an illegal hobby and make it a criminal activity.

I can understand the common sense danger and would not want to fly a drone in say, Disney's Magic Kingdom over the crowds. Or spy on a neighbor by flying the drone a few feet from his window. Chase a car down the road could cause an accident. But responsible use where there is no real harm, but can lead to arrest and heavy fines, makes me reconsider the cost/benefit of my purchase plans. I do take this very serious since I nearly landed in a Mexican Prison a couple years ago for carrying a "professional looking" video camera and was accused of being a paparazzi which is illegal in some parts of Mexico. If the use of a Drone is restricted to only isolated and designated radio control airplane parks, it is of no use to me.

What do you think about my concerns? Should I look at my intended projects and check the laws for those areas next?

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