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This link tells it all. Sports in 3D will SELL!. Forget all the blathering about how "movies were meant to be 2D" and "where's the content.?"

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4796555

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Sounds good, except that I don't watch sports. What else do they have?

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FIFA announced a deal with Sony to broadcast upto 25 games from the 2010 World Cup in 3D. Capture is via Sonys own 3D professional cameras. A number of cinema chains, and other venues, have already began to get onboard. The broadcasts will be available in 7 cities, in special "Fan fest" locations. The cities are London, Berlin, Mexico City, Paris, Rio De Janeiro, Rome, and Sydney. This may be expanded later.

After the tournament, an official movie will be released and this will also be one of the first 3D BD releases.

Sony already have a camera that captures 3D, via a single lens, at 240fps. The simultaneous capture, and processing, of L/R images allow the system to produce cleaner and sharper images than previous systems. The frame rate also allows for high quality slo-mo

Cameras were recently brought to N.America to field test with high speed, kinetic, sport action. Fast panning closeups and replays were handled with no problem. The results were outstanding.

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This link tells it all. Sports in 3D will SELL!. Forget all the blathering about how "movies were meant to be 2D" and "where's the content.?"

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4796555

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Now that is huge, I assume new set top receivers will be required?
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Sounds good, except that I don't watch sports. What else do they have?

Is your wife posting on your accoutn??? Don't watch sports???!!!

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I don't either, which is really ironic, because my whole CRT business was and is still for the most part based on the sports fanatics. I've only ever been to one Canucks game, but my definition of a 'first down' is something that hopefully happens early in a new relationship.

I've never understood why someone would want to sit there for hours watching some lunkhead get paid millions of $$ a year to throw a ball around or throw punches on ice.

Were it not for the sports fan though, my business would not exist today.

From a sports bar point of view, I don't think it will fly. The semi drunk looks somewhat goofy trying to pick up women wearing plastic glasses. I personally have a lazy eye, so no 3D has ever worked for me.

IN a home, in a home theater, as long as the technology is solid, I'd think it would be a big hit.

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There are 3D things going on in LA this week. Several projector manufacturers are out there being educated and I expect to see upper end FP manufacturers rolling out stuff seriously in 2011. By uppen endI mean in the $10K and up class. I think we will see a bunch of lower end stuff at CES and serious presentations at CEDIA. This is going to happen.

What will be required? I don`t know. It won`t be easy at first. But in a few years it will be plug and play.

Lon. I can just see your big boy watching the Westminister Dog Show in 3D. Live sports in 3D on a 14ft wide 16 x 9. Wow. Two lucky dogs in the same house.

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Hi Mark:

12' wide 16 x 9, 14' wide 2.35, I expect my replacement shortly and will be ready for 3D
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2357685,00.asp

Sony, IMAX, Discovery to Form 3D TV Network

01.05.10


by Mark Hachman
In a surprising endorsement for 3D display technology, Sony Corp. of America, Discovery Communications and IMAX Corp. have announced plans to form a U.S. television network entirely devoted to 3D programming.

The three parties have signed a letter of intent to form the unnamed venture, which is scheduled to launch in 2012.

The new network is designed as a sort of carrot to lure buyers to purchase 3D-enabled TVs, suddenly a hot topic in the entertainment world. Within the movie theater, 3D technology has offered up a fresh way for directors and cinemas to improve the movie experience; now home electronics manufacturers want a piece of the action, too.

Sony said that it will license television rights to current and future 3D films, plus music- and game-related 3D content. Discovery, meanwhile, will provide 3D rights to its television content while promoting the new channel across its 13 properties. IMAX appears to be supplying image-enhancement and 3D technologies, while doing some cross-promotion across its own theater network.

"Sony is the only company with expertise in every part of the 3D value chain," said Howard Stringer, chairman, chief executive and president of Sony, in a statement. "We are delighted to be partnering with Discovery and IMAX, two premier companies also dedicated to leadership in 3D, in this groundbreaking new venture. It is clear to us that consumers will always migrate to a better and richer entertainment experience, and together we are determined to be the leader in providing that around the world."

In recent weeks, a number of 3D initiatives have taken root; just Monday, RealD and Samsung announced a partnership for home 3D TVs. That followed an announcement by the HDMI licensing organization to implement a 3D spec across the HDMI connector, and a Blu-ray 3D spec to boot. Sony has long been a proponent of 3D TVs, joining LG's own 3D TV initiative, among others.

The new venture will be run by a separate management team that will work independently from the three companies, yet report to a board of directors staffed from representatives from Sony, IMAX, and Discove
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Likely will fail. People want content, not 3-D 'cool stuff'. Just like HDNET... when HD came out.

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Likely will fail. People want content, not 3-D 'cool stuff'. Just like HDNET... when HD came out.

Well, if ESPN starts broadcasting in 3D, I would expect that to be a good barometer for likely success. Sports is something that will always be available for content.
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Well, if ESPN starts broadcasting in 3D, I would expect that to be a good barometer for likely success. Sports is something that will always be available for content.

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Sounds good, except that I don't watch sports. What else do they have?

Oh YOU WILL BE. I hate watching sports too but 3-D SPORTS is like Kinetic eye candy sculptures, I promise.
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I've never understood why someone would want to sit there for hours watching some lunkhead get paid millions of $$ a year to throw a ball around or throw punches on ice.


The same reason you sit down in your room and watch a movie you've seen before or listen to the same CD or song on a server that you've heard before! Also the same reason you and I spend thousands of dollars on equipment that becomes obsolete due to the "new" better version being released!
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I've never understood why someone would want to sit there for hours watching some lunkhead get paid millions of $$ a year to throw a ball around or throw punches on ice.


The same reason you sit down in your room and watch a movie you've seen before or listen to the same CD or song on a server that you've heard before! Also the same reason you and I spend thousands of dollars on equipment that becomes obsolete due to the "new" better version being released!

I'll sit and drink a good wine I've had before too, but not a cheap box wine in a fancier box. I won't pay for a sports channel to begin with - so a 3D sports channel is a non starter in our house.

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There are 3D things going on in LA this week. Several projector manufacturers are out there being educated and I expect to see upper end FP manufacturers rolling out stuff seriously in 2011. By uppen endI mean in the $10K and up class. I think we will see a bunch of lower end stuff at CES and serious presentations at CEDIA. This is going to happen.

What will be required? I don`t know. It won`t be easy at first. But in a few years it will be plug and play.

Lon. I can just see your big boy watching the Westminister Dog Show in 3D. Live sports in 3D on a 14ft wide 16 x 9. Wow. Two lucky dogs in the same house.

Mark and Lon, can you handle DirecTV's new PORN 3D Channel?

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First thing anyone entering my media room for the first time says "wow porn must look great on this", I can only imagine what they say when watching Espn 3D
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For 3D to Reilly work they have to lose the glasses.
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I personally believe that sports could make 3D (not to mention gaming).I love college football,and the fights.


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FIFA announced a deal with Sony to broadcast upto 25 games from the 2010 World Cup in 3D. Capture is via Sonys own 3D professional cameras. A number of cinema chains, and other venues, have already began to get onboard. The broadcasts will be available in 7 cities, in special "Fan fest" locations. The cities are London, Berlin, Mexico City, Paris, Rio De Janeiro, Rome, and Sydney. This may be expanded later.

After the tournament, an official movie will be released and this will also be one of the first 3D BD releases.

Sony already have a camera that captures 3D, via a single lens, at 240fps. The simultaneous capture, and processing, of L/R images allow the system to produce cleaner and sharper images than previous systems. The frame rate also allows for high quality slo-mo

Cameras were recently brought to N.America to field test with high speed, kinetic, sport action. Fast panning closeups and replays were handled with no problem. The results were outstanding.

Wait wait wait... you're telling me they want to bring 3D sports to American TVs and they focused on SOCCER???

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Sounds good, except that I don't watch sports. What else do they have?

Porn. Once it takes off there it will he a huge format. No pun intended. Oh yea, don't forget to duck.
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Wait wait wait... you're telling me they want to bring 3D sports to American TVs and they focused on SOCCER???


HA. that is just funny stuff right there.
I have to chime in here as I don't watch sports either. I have seen most of the new 3d movies out there and continue to be unimpressed. For starters, I wear glasses and putting another pair on over the pair I already have is just uncomfortable. I personally don't think that 3d will take off except for the people who just have to have it. It's ironic, cause they tried 3d years ago and it failed miserably.
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Wait wait wait... you're telling me they want to bring 3D sports to American TVs and they focused on SOCCER???


Wait, wait, wait....read my post again.

Read the last sentence of my post....thats not Soccer. American sports will be front and centre.

Also, the Soccer thing has nothing to do with America. I may not be a geography professor, but none of the 7 cities listed are in America. This is part of a global project.

Small point...It was actually N.America I mentioned in the post, not America. None of the testing I referred to took place in the US.

Ive seen the results, and its amazing.

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I personally believe that sports could make 3D (not to mention gaming).I love college football,and the fights.


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For 3D to Reilly work they have to lose the glasses.

What does Bill O'Reilly have to do with this? He's about the LAST person I want to see in 3D

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I will wait and see how good it (3D) looks at home before committing to it! It almost seems like some Men on here are bragging that they don't watch sports! I have to ask the guys that do not "watch any sports". If you ask the Wife nicely will she give in and let you watch?
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I'll take OLED over 3D any day on a 60" and under screen. I don't wear glasses and find them awkward. And once your viewing 3D, everyone in the room needs the glasses..I don't get that one.

Give me a nice clear picture with great sharpness and and infinite contrast and I'm just fine. No matter how you slice 3D it is kind of gimmicky IMO.

Gaming is probably the biggest draw for 3D, but the last thing I want my 6 year old son doing is being immersed in a large screen 3D game . Its hard enough pulling him away from Nintendo DSi.

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Would like to watch Supercross and MotoGP in 3D; too bad I have a damaged optic nerve to my left eye which doesn't help with the 3D experience.

IMO sports is the ideal medium for 3D, more so than movies I feel.

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Sounds good, except that I don't watch sports. What else do they have?

Well in college,psych degree, they taught me that the strongest desire in humans is NOT hunger but libido. Watch porn! Imagine yourself sitting in dark room with those glasses on watching porn. Man, my wife would kick me out the house!
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I have to ask the guys that do not "watch any sports". If you ask the Wife nicely will she give in and let you watch?

Ha, not very funny. I just don't watch sports, big whoop! Never really enjoyed them, although I played baseball and football, and never really saw the need or had the desire to watch any of them. Has nothing to do with the wife. If I wanted to watch something, then she would not care, but I would rather spend time with my son. But unlike most people, my life is not ruled by sports. I get tired of people who take it the edge and it becomes an obsession to them. They can't go out with their friends because the Cowboys are playing, they can't go to a wedding that day because the Red Sox are playing, they can't go to the park with their kids cause the Blues are playing. My sister (sorry sis) is a prime example. She came for a visit but the minute she walked in the door, on came the Hawkeye game and she basically ignored the family. The good thing is that I shut off the plasma, told her what I thought and she left!! I mean really, seek help. (rant over)
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