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Wow.... That is truly lame. So you buy the 3D Blu Ray player, and don't even get a movie inside that box? Instead you have to buy a 3K tv as well to get the special starter kit for free. How nice of them.

There has to at least be some kind of sampler disc.... right?

On the other hand, it makes sense to do a full package deal. It assumes you're buying a new 3D TV and player, which is highly likely at this point.

How else would you watch the movie in 3D?

Don't think of it as getting ripped off if you don't buy the whole package. Think of it as getting a freebee to get you started after spending all that money at once. If, by some chance, you already have a 3D compatible TV and just need the player, then it's far cheaper to simply buy Avatar when it comes out.
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I am surprised that since the Samsung glases sell separatly for $150 and the Kit sells for $350 implies that the studios expect to get at least $50 for each 3D Blu-ray disk sold.
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I am surprised that since the Samsung glases sell separatly for $150 and the Kit sells for $350 implies that the studios expect to get at least $50 for each 3D Blu-ray disk sold.

The MSRP may be $49 but that won't be the street price.

What is the average street price for a $39.99 priced BD?
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On the other hand, it makes sense to do a full package deal. It assumes you're buying a new 3D TV and player, which is highly likely at this point.

How else would you watch the movie in 3D?

Don't think of it as getting ripped off if you don't buy the whole package. Think of it as getting a freebee to get you started after spending all that money at once. If, by some chance, you already have a 3D compatible TV and just need the player, then it's far cheaper to simply buy Avatar when it comes out.

Keep in mind that when you buy just a Samsung 3DTV - you don't get any 3D glasses with it. At least with the Panasonic 3DTV - 1 pair is included.

And again - according to the HDGuru - the Panasonic 3D BD player has a demo disc in the box. The Samsung doesn't.

And what "already have a 3DTV" is a 3D BD going to play on? If it's a 3D Ready DLP RPTV - you need the 3DC-1000 converter box. That isn't available yet.
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DreamWorks Animation announced yesterday the expansion of its strategic alliance with Samsung (see blu-ray.com, January 6), to feature an exclusive offering of the Shrek 3D film series in its entirety in 3D for the first time ever. This Blu-ray collection will be available during the second half of the year. The news was delivered at Samsung's Full HD 3D LED TV global launch press conference held in New York City.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4268
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I don't think that the Blu-Ray full 3DHD standards would allow the release of the Shrek disksto be labeled with a Blu-Ray 3D logo if they only run on one vendors brand of Full 3D Blu-Ray players.
Maybe exclusive offering only means that you can only purchase the disks from Samsung or from an Samsung authorized seller of their 3D Blu-Ray players.
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I don't think that the Blu-Ray full 3DHD standards would allow the release of the Shrek disksto be labeled with a Blu-Ray 3D logo if they only run on one vendors brand of Full 3D Blu-Ray players.
Maybe exclusive offering only means that you can only purchase the disks from Samsung or from an Samsung authorized seller of their 3D Blu-Ray players.

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Additionally, during the second half of 2010, the most successful animated film franchise of all time – DreamWorks Animation’s Shrek film series – will be available in 3D Blu-ray for Samsung home solutions.

http://www.azooptics.com/Details.asp?NewsID=7932

IMO - you are going to have to buy some Samsung 3D equipment. We may not see 3D BDs being sold at BB and Amazon until Q4 if then
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On the other hand, it makes sense to do a full package deal. It assumes you're buying a new 3D TV and player, which is highly likely at this point.

How else would you watch the movie in 3D?
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there are a few PS3s out there that should work come June... IF sony doesn't cripple them to only work with sony televisions.

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I wonder what he'd think about 3D IMAX?
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If, by some chance, you already have a 3D compatible TV and just need the player, then it's far cheaper to simply buy Avatar when it comes out.

Except Avatar 3D will likely be another exclusive title, which means you CAN'T purchase it separately without also buying a TV. That's the problem, and source of uncertainty right now. Does all this exclusivity merely limit which manufacturers can bundle the disc, but the disc is still available separately? Or does it mean the disc can only be purchased with a bundle?
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Except Avatar 3D will likely be another exclusive title, which means you CAN'T purchase it separately without also buying a TV. That's the problem, and source of uncertainty right now. Does all this exclusivity merely limit which manufacturers can bundle the disc, but the disc is still available separately? Or does it mean the disc can only be purchased with a bundle?

So far, the announced 3D BD titles are not available for general sale. They are being used as promotional items so people buy the 3D equipment. How long this continues is unknown. To promote 3D they do have to sell 3DTV's and 3D BD players. And seeing as there is zero 3D content and won't be any (not counting PC stuff) until June, when ESPN starts broadcasting ESPN 3D, 3D BD's are it.

Buying just a 3D BD player today doesn't get you 3D. The existing DLP 3D ready RPTV's need the Mits 3DC-1000 converter which will not be available for another couple of months.

Avatar is going to be re-released again (summer?) in an extended version with additional footage - up to 40 minutes. Panasonic had a lot to do with Avatar so if a CEM gets an exclusive - it will be them - maybe for Black Friday or the week before Xmas.

Offerring bundle deals, a 3DTV and a 3D BD player not only helps 3D but also BD.

When they start releasing 3D BD's for general sale is anyones guess.
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I'm pretty sure these bundled deals are only going to be around for the next 2-5 months after that you'll be able to buy the discs. I'd bet part of the problem is making the discs backwards compatible with current players, but more because the demand for 3D movies is going to be so low in the next few months that the studios didn't want to support a retail version of the discs.

Now by this Summer all the manufacturers will have their 3DTV and Blu-ray players to market and DirecTV will turn on its 3D signal, then the studios will be willing to sell 3D titles at retail. At this point I'd expect to see the very same exclusive 3D titles on the store shelves.

The real concern is that so far there are only going to be like 5 3D movies available this year. I really hope the studios are just playing this close to the vest and really plan to blow it out this Christmas. I'd really like to see closer to 20 3D titles available by Thanksgiving. So about 3 movies from each major studio.

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As a promotional tool, Samsung will have an exclusive on the 3D Blu-ray versions of all four "Shrek" movies later this year for a full year, while regular versions of the Blu-rays will be available through all retailers.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...1&ref=verttech
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As a promotional tool, Samsung will have an exclusive on the 3D Blu-ray versions of all four "Shrek" movies later this year for a full year, while regular versions of the Blu-rays will be available through all retailers.

This exclusivity crap could make the whole 3D Blu Ray thing stillborn before it even gets a chance to get started. How ridiculous is this?

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As a promotional tool, Samsung will have an exclusive on the 3D Blu-ray versions of all four "Shrek" movies later this year for a full year, while regular versions of the Blu-rays will be available through all retailers.

This exclusivity crap could make the whole 3D Blu Ray thing stillborn before it even gets a chance to get started. How ridiculous is this?

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I bet you the 3D version of Monsters vs. Aliens would sell for $99.99 or more on Ebay right now, if somebody put it on there....

It gets worse . . .
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And what "already have a 3DTV" is a 3D BD going to play on? If it's a 3D Ready DLP RPTV - you need the 3DC-1000 converter box. That isn't available yet.

Not true, only Mits has said that you need their converter box for their sets--and that is only true if you don't have something that can output checkerboard.

If you have an HTPC you can count on being able to output checkerboard to 3D Ready DLP TV's WITHOUT a converter box. Total Media Theatre 3 is just one among many that will support multiple 3D formats.

Also it should be noted that BD players can output checkerboard or whatever format they choose. Don't quote me, but I believe Samsung's do output checkerboard. Their new 3D TV's support checkerboard as well as their old 3D ready sets.
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Not true, only Mits has said that you need their converter box for their sets--and that is only true if you don't have something that can output checkerboard.

If you have an HTPC you can count on being able to output checkerboard to 3D Ready DLP TV's WITHOUT a converter box. Total Media Theatre 3 is just one among many that will support multiple 3D formats.

That assumes you have a PC with a BD drive in it. And of course, all you can play is 3D BD's. With the converter, you can get 3D from SAT and CBL.

But the issue is still getting 3D BDs which are not available.

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Also it should be noted that BD players can output checkerboard or whatever format they choose. Don't quote me, but I believe Samsung's do output checkerboard. Their new 3D TV's support checkerboard as well as their old 3D ready sets.

The Samsung does not output checkerboard
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