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What is/will be the best forum for knowing about current and newly released 3D Blu-Ray disk titles.
Does anyone expect the first titles to be anounced and available tomorrow 3/10 when both Samsung and Panasonic will be launching their 3D Blu-Ray drives?
If none will be available on 3/10 when are the first titles expected to be available?
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Sony Pictures has 3D Blu-ray titles in store for 2010

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/s...tore-for-2010/

Disney's first 3D Blu-ray release to hit in the fourth quarter

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/d...ourth-quarter/

Samsung's U.K. show reveals Monsters vs. Aliens 3D Blu-ray due in March plus LoveFilm, iPlayer TV apps

http://hd.engadget.com/2010/02/22/sa...blu-ray-due-i/
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And speaking of new 3D titles, DreamWorks' own Jeffrey Katzenberg took stage to announce that Shrek will be coming soon.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/s...uyers-started/


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DreamWorks Animation’s successful “Shrek” film series will be available in 3D Blu-ray exclusively for Samsung in the second half of the year

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/3-d...-players-18687
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Is this the beginning of a 3D format war?
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What 3D format war?

Who are the combatants?
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No format war.

Dreamworks simply has a deal with Samsung for exclusive distrubution on some 3-D titles through bundling with their products. This obviously won't last forever, and those titles will, after a certain point in time, be available through regular channels.
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Is Monsters vs. Aliens in the box? Is that going to be the only "official" 3D Blu Ray movie available... starting tomorrow?
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Is Monsters vs. Aliens in the box? Is that going to be the only "official" 3D Blu Ray movie available... starting tomorrow?

Samsung 3D Starter Kit gets 3DTV and Blu-ray buyers started

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/s...uyers-started/
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Deluxe Digital Studios Ups 3D Blu-ray Disc Production

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The Los Angeles-based subsidiary of Deluxe Entertainment Services Group said current systems for DVD/Blu-ray authoring will be expanded for 3D to include menus and bonus materials, creation of subtitles, compression of video, BD-J programming, authoring, AACS copy protection processing, check disc creation, and player compatibility testing.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/3-d...oduction-18698
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Slightly OT, but I'd also like a list of movies that were shot natively in 3D as opposed to being done in post-production. Can't find a list by googling.
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Slightly OT, but I'd also like a list of movies that were shot natively in 3D as opposed to being done in post-production. Can't find a list by googling.

http://www.3dmovielist.com/list.html

AFAIK, only 3 movies so far have had 2D to 3D conversion:

Nightmare Before Xmas
Alice In Wonderland
Clash Of The Titans
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Mary Daly, of Fox Home Entertainment, said that starting in April the studio will allow Panasonic to begin to bundle a copy of the newly announced 3D Blu-ray Disc "Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs" with Panasonic 3D TVs and Blu-ray Disc players. It will be the first of a number of planned 3D titles to be produced by Fox on Blu-ray Disc this year, she said, although she could not comment on home entertainment release plans for the current blockbuster "Avatar," which Panasonic helped to sponsor

http://www.twice.com/article/449975-...t_Best_Buy.php
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Lee, there have been many other converted films released to theaters already. These include:


SUPERMAN RETURNS (4 sequences in IMAX version)
HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX (last 20 mins in IMAX version)
HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE (first 10 mins in IMAX version)

G-FORCE

NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (1968 colorized version) was converted to 3-D and recently debuted in an outdoor LA screening.

PIRANHA 3-D was shot flat and is undergoing a conversion (this was intended from the outset, as was the case with ALICE IN WONDERLAND.)

There are plenty more in process, both catalog and yet to be released movies. Some IMAX documentaries have undergone conversion as well. Look for more and more movies to be planned as 2-D to 3-D conversions all along; some directors apparently feel this is the easier way to go. I've heard talk that the new CONAN and FLASH GORDON projects will take this route.
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Lee, there have been many other converted films released to theaters already. These include:


SUPERMAN RETURNS (4 sequences in IMAX version)
HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX (last 20 mins in IMAX version)
HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE (first 10 mins in IMAX version)

G-FORCE

NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (1968 colorized version) was converted to 3-D and recently debuted in an outdoor LA screening.

PIRANHA 3-D was shot flat and is undergoing a conversion (this was intended from the outset, as was the case with ALICE IN WONDERLAND.)

There are plenty more in process, both catalog and yet to be released movies.

OK - like I said - AFAIK.
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Samsung 3D Starter Kit gets 3DTV and Blu-ray buyers started

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/s...uyers-started/


Wow.... That is truly lame. So you buy the 3D Blu Ray player, and don't even get a movie inside that box? Instead you have to buy a 3K tv as well to get the special starter kit for free. How nice of them.

There has to at least be some kind of sampler disc.... right?
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Wow.... That is truly lame. So you buy the 3D Blu Ray player, and don't even get a movie inside that box? Instead you have to buy a 3K tv as well to get the special starter kit for free. How nice of them.

There has to at least be some kind of sampler disc.... right?

AFAIK - no 3D sampler disc. Not mentioned in any articles. Just Monsters vs. Aliens

Maybe the Panasonic will:

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The intention is that a package of 3D TV, Blu-ray player and glasses should sell for about $3000, thus tempting consumers to make the leap to 3D. It's also expected that a3d Blu-ray sampler disc will be given away with Panasonic purchases.

http://www.whathifi.com/News/JAPANUS...US-3D-rollout/

But it is not mentioned here:

Panasonic Kicks Off 3D TV Roll Out At Best Buy

http://www.twice.com/article/449975-...t_Best_Buy.php
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So it appears that Anthony1's above post is correct in that:
Monsters vs. Aliens is the only "official" 3D Blu Ray movie available today and you can only get if you purchase the Samsung 3D HDTV,3D blu-ray player kit. So if you do not purchase the Samsung combo kit package or if you purchase a Panasonic 3D TV and 3
D blu-ray player there is not one 3D Blu-ray disk you can purchase that meets the full 3D-blu ray standard. Is this in fact true today?
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So it appears that Anthony1's above post is correct in that:
Monsters vs. Aliens is the only "official" 3D Blu Ray movie available today and you can only get if you purchase the Samsung 3D HDTV,3D blu-ray player kit. So if you do not purchase the Samsung combo kit package or if you purchase a Panasonic 3D TV and 3D blu-ray player there is not one 3D Blu-ray disk you can purchase that meets the full 3D-blu ray standard. Is this in fact true today?

Correct - then in April, Panasonic will add the 3D Blu-ray Disc "Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs to it's bundle
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Looks like there is a 3D BD demo disc packed with a Panasonic 3D BD player:

http://hdguru.com/panasonic-tc-p50vt...t-review/1391/
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OK I get it.

Sucks though. I hope this doesn't mean 3D BD movies are only going to be available depnding on whatever new hardware becomes available. I understand dangling content to pull you to their brand but to deny content to those of us ready to go is a pretty s****y thing to do.
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So it appears that Anthony1's above post is correct in that:
Monsters vs. Aliens is the only "official" 3D Blu Ray movie available today and you can only get if you purchase the Samsung 3D HDTV,3D blu-ray player kit. So if you do not purchase the Samsung combo kit package or if you purchase a Panasonic 3D TV and 3
D blu-ray player there is not one 3D Blu-ray disk you can purchase that meets the full 3D-blu ray standard. Is this in fact true today?


Actually, I'm pretty sure that you can buy the Samsung starter bundle separately from the TV and Blu Ray player. Sure, if you buy the TV as well, then you get it free, but you don't HAVE to buy the TV too. I'm not sure how much they sell that starter pack for separately.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure that you can buy the Samsung starter bundle separately from the TV and Blu Ray player. Sure, if you buy the TV as well, then you get it free, but you don't HAVE to buy the TV too. I'm not sure how much they sell that starter pack for separately.

You can = $349

http://www.abt.com/product/45473/Samsung-SSGP2100T.html
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You can = $349

http://www.abt.com/product/45473/Samsung-SSGP2100T.html

Ouch.... Monsters vs. Aliens is a very expensive Blu Ray movie...
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http://www.3dmovielist.com/list.html

AFAIK, only 3 movies so far have had 2D to 3D conversion:

Nightmare Before Xmas
Alice In Wonderland
Clash Of The Titans


Toy Story 1&2.

Also Disney has said they will have a demo disc with old and new 3D movies featured.


It will require a 3D capable television and a 3D capable blu-ray player, but The Hollywood Reporter has relayed Disney’s announcement that the newly established Blu-ray 3D standard will be embraced and rushed to market beginning with at least three releases this year (all presumably around the holiday season): A Christmas Carol, Alice in Wonderland and Toy Story 3. Perhaps it’s too soon, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Disney/Pixar’s UPthrown into the mix shortly thereafter either.

At D23 Expo, Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment demo’d a prototype of a 3D home system from Panasonic. The home system, which uses special shutter-oriented glasses to alternate between eyes, almost faithfully recreates the current 3D movie-going experience at home.

The article also refers to a demo disc Disney is supplying to Blu-ray 3D manufacturers for distribution with their systems which includes the 1953 3D short Working for Peanuts starring Chip and Dale, last seen in theaters attached to Meet the Robinsons.
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Avatar director James Cameron yesterday told USA Today that he hopes the release will be this fall. However, he said that the movie could be re-released in theaters this fall, which could complicated the 3-D release.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/panasonic031110.htm
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Toy Story 1&2.

Toy Story 1 and 2 were re-rendered with two viewpoints, from the original 3D model files. This is "native" stereoscopic 3D, and not a 2D-to-3D conversion, where an algorithm "guesses" the depth of pixels based on color hues and shading.
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I don't know if everyone has seen the new 3D BD logo that will appear at the top of the case so here it is:

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Toy Story 1 and 2 were re-rendered with two viewpoints, from the original 3D model files. This is "native" stereoscopic 3D, and not a 2D-to-3D conversion, where an algorithm "guesses" the depth of pixels based on color hues and shading.

Actually for the 2D to 3D film conversions that the studios do, isn't it not (or not usually) an algorithm that guesses the depth but instead is the computer operators who tell it the depth of each object by drawing around the objects manually and telling it where to position it in 3d space?

It's at least some of the 3D TVs and 3D BD players that will have options to do automatic conversion of 2D to 3D video.
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Actually for the 2D to 3D film conversions that the studios do, isn't it not (or not usually) an algorithm that guesses the depth but instead is the computer operators who tell it the depth of each object by drawing around the objects manually and telling it where to position it in 3d space?

It's at least some of the 3D TVs and 3D BD players that will have options to do automatic conversion of 2D to 3D video.

Yes, for elaborate productions, such as movie post-production, the algorithms get some human support, but it's still mostly the algorithm doing the finer details of depth. The human operation alone would result in some cut-out diorama look of the scenes.

The 2D-to-3D converter in TVs, on the other hand, will not have the luxury of a human going over the result before presenting it to the viewer. I expect ghastliness.
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The company that did Alice in Wonderland:

http://www.in-three.com/
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