Mitsubishi 3DC-1000 3D Starter Pack Info - April 2010 - Page 4 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #91 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 02:21 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
walford's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 16,789
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
AFAIK the kit includes 2 3d capable Xpand ASG that receive IR signals from IR emitter that is inlcuded in the kit for MITs 3D capable DLP TVs instead of containg 2 3D DLP-link X102 glases and no emitter instead. This does not make much sense to me unless Mits knows that there are less problems of sync control with the IR glases then with the DLP-link glases.
walford is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #92 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 02:55 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Daniel Murray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Eastampton NJ, South Jersey
Posts: 1,070
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
I wish some one with Mitsubishi would make a comment here!
Daniel Murray is offline  
post #93 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 03:00 PM
Senior Member
 
steelers1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: idaho falls.id
Posts: 316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by walford View Post

AFAIK the kit includes 2 3d capable Xpand ASG that receive IR signals from IR emitter that is inlcuded in the kit for MITs 3D capable DLP TVs instead of containg 2 3D DLP-link X102 glases and no emitter instead. This does not make much sense to me unless Mits knows that there are less problems of sync control with the IR glases then with the DLP-link glases.

did you think that it may be because xpand is making them differant for mitt and differant then the 102`s. bcause there cheaper for thr kit. this way mitt can bring out this kit cheaper for the consumer.
steelers1 is offline  
post #94 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 03:18 PM
Member
 
c_hernandez32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Far West Texas
Posts: 165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Why such a big difference in the price of the kit and the adapter alone? Are the glasses really about 300 for 2 glasses and the IR emitter?
c_hernandez32 is offline  
post #95 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 03:31 PM
Member
 
LeeDee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
So, who with a Samsung DLP is going to get the adapter and Gefen HDMI Detective and program the Gefen to see it it'll spoof the adapter into thinking the TV is a Mits? I'd do it myself but I don't have a 3D source.
LeeDee is offline  
post #96 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 03:33 PM
AVS Special Member
 
pjb16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 1,331
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeDee View Post

So, who with a Samsung DLP is going to get the adapter and Gefen HDMI Detective and program the Gefen to see it it'll spoof the adapter into thinking the TV is a Mits? I'd do it myself but I don't have a 3D source.

I might be able to try once I get everything.

I have a Sammy 61a750 and I was getting the adapter for my Mits 73C9.

I've never heard about this Gefen thing though.

PSN - Mr_Frisch
XBL - Mr Frisch
Steam - Sneaky Pete
pjb16 is offline  
post #97 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 05:01 PM
 
idamon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 64
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by steelers1 View Post

idamon if you would do your reaseach you would no all your questions. go to the to the web sight 4electronicwarehouse.com you will see the full spec`s of the adaptor and everything else about this kit.

I saw that stuff. I am not convinced that the batteries are generic. It says nothing about the model number of the xpand glasses coming with the kit. That is a big oversight.
idamon is offline  
post #98 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 05:16 PM
Senior Member
 
steelers1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: idaho falls.id
Posts: 316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by c_hernandez32 View Post

Why such a big difference in the price of the kit and the adapter alone? Are the glasses really about 300 for 2 glasses and the IR emitter?

two pair of glasses
steelers1 is offline  
post #99 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 05:20 PM
Senior Member
 
steelers1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: idaho falls.id
Posts: 316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by idamon View Post

I saw that stuff. I am not convinced that the batteries are generic. It says nothing about the model number of the xpand glasses coming with the kit. That is a big oversight.

ya but you said at the end of your post why is mitts being so hush on the adaptor?
steelers1 is offline  
post #100 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 05:29 PM
AVS Special Member
 
pjb16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 1,331
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by idamon View Post

I saw that stuff. I am not convinced that the batteries are generic. It says nothing about the model number of the xpand glasses coming with the kit. That is a big oversight.

Maybe because it is a pair of glasses that hasn't been released by Xpand yet (as in not x101-102) and was made specifically for Mitsubishi? I mean it's not at all an oversight if there isn't a model number yet. Or maybe it's the X103 which also is supposed to come out in July.

PSN - Mr_Frisch
XBL - Mr Frisch
Steam - Sneaky Pete
pjb16 is offline  
post #101 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 05:41 PM
Senior Member
 
steelers1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: idaho falls.id
Posts: 316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjb16 View Post

Maybe because it is a pair of glasses that hasn't been released by Xpand yet (as in not x101-102) and was made specifically for Mitsubishi? I mean it's not at all an oversight if there isn't a model number yet. Or maybe it's the X103 which also is supposed to come out in July.

that is what i was thinking
steelers1 is offline  
post #102 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 06:03 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
walford's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 16,789
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
I don't think they are the X103's since they AFAIK will also suppprt DLP-Link and therefore an emtitter would not be required.
walford is offline  
post #103 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 06:50 PM
Senior Member
 
steelers1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: idaho falls.id
Posts: 316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by walford View Post

I don't think they are the X103's since they AFAIK will also suppprt DLP-Link and therefore an emtitter would not be required.

i no i have a stupid question what does afaik mean
steelers1 is offline  
post #104 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 06:52 PM
AVS Special Member
 
pjb16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 1,331
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by steelers1 View Post

i no i have a stupid question what does afaik mean

- As Far As I Know

PSN - Mr_Frisch
XBL - Mr Frisch
Steam - Sneaky Pete
pjb16 is offline  
post #105 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 07:14 PM
Senior Member
 
steelers1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: idaho falls.id
Posts: 316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjb16 View Post

- As Far As I Know

thanks
steelers1 is offline  
post #106 of 854 Old 05-29-2010, 10:43 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Ken H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 45,876
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by idamon View Post

Also, big also, the adapter kit doesn't come out til july 8 whereas the adapter comes out on june 18 (a week into World Cup)! So, if they are similar quality...

The adapter is one and the same, in the kit and sold separately.

'Better Living Through Modern, Expensive, Electronic Devices'

Ken H is offline  
post #107 of 854 Old 05-30-2010, 10:13 AM
Advanced Member
 
DenisG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked: 17
The glass' are x101. x101 need the emitter.
DenisG is offline  
post #108 of 854 Old 05-30-2010, 10:49 AM
Senior Member
 
advocate2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vegas, baby
Posts: 391
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
The pricing on the Kit is less attractive if they are including the Xpand 101's which are currently priced at $109 a pair.

http://www.xpand3dtv.com/xpand-x101-...d-gl10133.html
advocate2 is offline  
post #109 of 854 Old 05-30-2010, 01:09 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
Augerhandle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,587
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by DenisG View Post

The glass' are x101. x101 need the emitter.


The glasses are NOT X101s. Do your homework. The X101s are RED and have a continuous frame around the lenses. The X102s are similar. The X103s are also similar, but will come in fashion colors.

Look at the picture for the Starter Pack glasses. http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/products/mitsubishi/3dc-1000-3d-starter-pack.html

They are BLACK. The frame does not wrap around the lenses completely.

They are most probably a proprietary design made exclusively for Mits. (and perhaps for Samsung )

"The wise understand by themselves; fools follow the reports of others"-Tibetan Proverb
 
Augerhandle is offline  
post #110 of 854 Old 05-30-2010, 05:51 PM
Advanced Member
 
DenisG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post

The glasses are NOT X101s. Do your homework. The X101s are RED and have a continuous frame around the lenses. The X102s are similar. The X103s are also similar, but will come in fashion colors.

It was stated that they are xpanD so, if they are xpanD and require an emitter and are not X101 which need an emitter and not X102 DLP link which do not require an emitter then what else could they be? Not to take the wrong way., but just because there is a picture of glasses on a web sight before release dose not mean that those are the exact ones that will show up at your door. It is the Internet after all.
DenisG is offline  
post #111 of 854 Old 05-30-2010, 11:27 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
Augerhandle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,587
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by DenisG View Post

(snip)...just because there is a picture of glasses on a web sight before release dose not mean that those are the exact ones that will show up at your door. It is the Internet after all.

If you say so. There's a picture on the box. I believe there are laws against false advertising, and misrepresentation of product...

Quote:
Originally Posted by DenisG View Post

The glass' are x101. x101 need the emitter.

I took exception to your post above, stating as a fact that they were X101s.

Unless you have proof, such a statement is reprehensible and irresponsible, in my opinion. I think there is already way too much misinformation on these forums being extolled as facts. I was simply presenting a rebuttal to your statement, to clarify for people who come here seeking real information.

"The wise understand by themselves; fools follow the reports of others"-Tibetan Proverb
 
Augerhandle is offline  
post #112 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 05:14 AM
Senior Member
 
Athlon646464's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Uxbridge, MA
Posts: 396
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by DenisG View Post

It was stated that they are xpanD so, if they are xpanD and require an emitter and are not X101 which need an emitter and not X102 DLP link which do not require an emitter then what else could they be? Not to take the wrong way., but just because there is a picture of glasses on a web sight before release dose not mean that those are the exact ones that will show up at your door. It is the Internet after all.

That is not just 'a photo on the internet'.

That photo of the product was provided by Mitsubishi.

Dave

Uxbridge, MA.

Athlon646464 is offline  
post #113 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 06:35 AM
Senior Member
 
advocate2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vegas, baby
Posts: 391
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
The point I was making earlier is that the 103's are available in 12 different colors and are emitter optional.

http://www.xpandcinema.com/products/glasses/


It seems to me that the included glasses could well be the 103's even though the glasses in the picture of the Starter kit don't look like the glasses on the Xpand web site.
advocate2 is offline  
post #114 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 07:29 AM
Advanced Member
 
DenisG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by advocate2 View Post

The point I was making earlier is that the 103's are available in 12 different colors and are emitter optional.

http://www.xpandcinema.com/products/glasses/


It seems to me that the included glasses could well be the 103's even though the glasses in the picture of the Starter kit don't look like the glasses on the Xpand web site.

Thats what I was asking, what else could they be? I was not aware that the X103 were available yet. X101 would make sense for lower cost on the manufacturing end.
DenisG is offline  
post #115 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 07:57 AM
Advanced Member
 
DenisG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked: 17
After looking as some artices and what not, it looks as if the X103's should be avalible by the starter pack release. I do hope I am wrong and they are X103's.
DenisG is offline  
post #116 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 10:03 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
Augerhandle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,587
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 48
The important thing is that they are made by Xpand. Whether or not they can sync with any emitter, and no matter what they look like, the lenses should be the same Pi-cell technology, which are touted as the best in the industry.

"The wise understand by themselves; fools follow the reports of others"-Tibetan Proverb
 
Augerhandle is offline  
post #117 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 10:15 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
Augerhandle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,587
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 48
From XpanD's website:

Quote:


The X103 comes in multiple colors, customized designs...

(red bold by me) So it is quite likely that they are X103s

"The wise understand by themselves; fools follow the reports of others"-Tibetan Proverb
 
Augerhandle is offline  
post #118 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 10:24 AM
Member
 
c_hernandez32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Far West Texas
Posts: 165
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
So whats so special about the XpanD glasses versus any other brand? I found a site that had been selling 3D glasses for DLP long before the whole 3D fad came about. I can admit they look a lot cheaper than the XpanD glasses but seem to sell for a lot less.

I saw that the 102's are supposed to be compatible with DLP link, what is DLP link?
c_hernandez32 is offline  
post #119 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 10:35 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
Augerhandle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,587
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post

The Starter Pack comes with an emitter, which is unnecessary with the X102 (DLP-Link) glasses, so it is doubtful that the X102s are included.

As stated earlier, all clues lead me to believe they will include X103s with the Starter pack. This does not preclude them from also selling the adapter separately as previously reported.

I'm still awaiting confirmation of all this from Mitsubishi, however.

Quote:
Originally Posted by walford View Post

Excellent find, here is the llnk to both the kit and to just the adapter:

http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/search.php?qs=mitsusbishi


A complete description of the Adapter is contained in the Specs for the kit.

From XpanD's website: http://www.xpandcinema.com/products/glasses/X103-home/

Quote:


The X103 comes in multiple colors, customized designs...

(Red and Bold by me)
It appears that I may have been correct. The starter kit may indeed contain X103s

"The wise understand by themselves; fools follow the reports of others"-Tibetan Proverb
 
Augerhandle is offline  
post #120 of 854 Old 05-31-2010, 10:37 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Ken H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 45,876
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post

I think there is already way too much misinformation on these forums being extolled as facts. I was simply presenting a rebuttal to your statement, to clarify for people who come here seeking real information.

Thank you.

'Better Living Through Modern, Expensive, Electronic Devices'

Ken H is offline  
Closed Thread 3D Tech Talk

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off