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I have managed to see 3D video from my PC using IZ3D driver with my ATI video card using stereoscopic player, but when I play this 3d blu-ray disc, I get no 3d output (just 2D). Seems like if IZ3D stereo is enabled, powerdvd crashes on play, but that might have changed since I installed the latest update. whatever the case, no configuration produces any type of separation that is evident in 3D video. I am running Win7 64-bit if that makes any difference.

Anyone else had this problem? I'm disappointed since I paid out the rear to pick up this movie.
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AFAIK cyberlink hasn't released the 3d blu-ray update to Powerdvd 10, the update won't be out till summer.

from cyberlinks webite...
* Notice of Free Mark II Upgrade
PowerDVD 10 Mark II: Consumers who purchase PowerDVD 10 Ultra 3D will receive a FREE UPGRADE that enables support of the Blu-ray 3D format and 2D to 3D conversion of video files. Available this summer.
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Well, if that is true, can someone tell me how to demux the 3D stream on the blu-ray into a playable format?
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If you can play any regular 2D BR disk on your sytem with your BR capable player then the 3D disk should play as a 2D BR disk.
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If you can play any regular 2D BR disk on your sytem with your BR capable player then the 3D disk should play as a 2D BR disk.

I want to watch it in 3D. Is there a way to rip the two separate video streams from the blu-ray and save them together in some other format so I can watch in 3D?
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As you can tell from the description of how the 3D full HD BR disk encode 3D. Decoding them in 3D format is not simple. And that is why Cyperlink does not yet have their decoder ready for release yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
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Anyone else had this problem? I'm disappointed since I paid out the rear to pick up this movie.



Damn, that must really suck to have bought that movie seperately. How much did you pay for that puppy? I've seen them for for almost $200 on Ebay. Pretty crazy...


If you have a Mits DLP, I'm pretty sure you can get the Panasonic 3D Blu Ray player, and be able to watch that movie just fine on your Mits via the Panasonic. You'd have to go into the Menu on the Panny player and select Checkerboard output. Otherwise, the only option is to wait all the way till Summer for that update to PowerDVD 10 Ultra 3D. The guestion is whether it will really be available this Summer, and if so, what is their definition of Summer. September could be considered Summer, and thats still quite a ways away.

Maybe you should just put that movie back up on Ebay, and try to get your money back, or close to it.
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Damn, that must really suck to have bought that movie seperately. How much did you pay for that puppy? I've seen them for for almost $200 on Ebay. Pretty crazy...


If you have a Mits DLP, I'm pretty sure you can get the Panasonic 3D Blu Ray player, and be able to watch that movie just fine on your Mits via the Panasonic. You'd have to go into the Menu on the Panny player and select Checkerboard output. Otherwise, the only option is to wait all the way till Summer for that update to PowerDVD 10 Ultra 3D. The guestion is whether it will really be available this Summer, and if so, what is their definition of Summer. September could be considered Summer, and thats still quite a ways away.

Maybe you should just put that movie back up on Ebay, and try to get your money back, or close to it.

Thanks for the info. I am surprised the 3D blu-ray situation is progressing so slowly. I fully expected Sony to provide a 3D update for the PS3 but looks like that won't be coming until the Fall if not later.

I may go the panasonic route, but tired of blowing money for such limited software available.
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And btw, you don't need the iz3D driver activated for 3D Blu-Ray, or any 3D videos for that matter. The iz3D driver is only for games.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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You could rip the 3D track and put it in an MKV container then play it with the Stereoscopic player.
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Stereoscopic player has not yet implemted the ability to decode MVC 2D+ delta H.264 files from full HD 3D BR disks into two separate H.264l 1080p streams. Last I saw they hoped to have the ability by this fall.
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oh, interesting.
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AFAIK, the only way I can play the disc is via a Panasonic DMP-BDT350 (since it supports checkerboard output). Even at that, I have to drive 90 miles to the nearest Best Buy that actually stocks that particular player. Kind of surprised there is still basically zero software support for this spec.
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The spec was just issued last December and it takes complex and time consuming progaming efforts to be able to create both 1080p/24 data steams from the 2D+Delta MVC encoding format.
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