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Greetings: I bought a Samsung UN55C8000 Display without any 3D glasses. Im considering third party glasses other than Samsung.

Does anyone consider buying Xpand X103 or Monster Vision when available?
If so; which one will you buy and why? Xpand claims "The fastest"; while Monster looks very nice and claims "based on Bit Cauldron's HeartBeat technology"
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I'll wait for reviews on both. I'd prefer the X103 solution since it allows you to bring your glasses to a friend's house vs Monstervision is simply a replacement for whatever glasses your 3DTV comes with.

I also hate the look of the Monstervision and think the color options on the X103 is nice.

I guess I'm leaning towards the X103 (or X104).
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X104? Thats new or me. Whats the difference between X103 and X104?
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X104? Thats new or me. Whats the difference between X103 and X104?

The X104s are like the X103s, but will also add DLP-Link capabilities.

Basically, combine the X102s and X103s.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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The X104s are like the X103s, but will also add DLP-Link capabilities.

Basically, combine the X102s and X103s.

X104 are titanium frames too.
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X104 are titanium frames too.

And also Blue Tooth comm which is what Vizio originally said they were going to use for their glasses:

http://www.xpandcinema.com/products/glasses/
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for X103 says availability June 2010. We are in August and nothing! Any ideas whhen it will be available.?
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for X103 says availability June 2010. We are in August and nothing! Any ideas when it will be available.?

Called XpanD in California about a week ago. They said they do not have a firm release date.

I asked; do you think it will be this year; and was told yes.
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Two companies, XpanD and Monster Cable, are leading the charge with 3D glasses they say will be out in September.

http://www.today3d.com/search?update...&max-results=5
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for X103 says availability June 2010. We are in August and nothing! Any ideas whhen it will be available.?

here is an email i got today

Hi, Grover,

Thanks for your interest in Xpand.

Xpand Universal 3D Glasses will be available in retail and online mid to end September. Amazon will carry it for sure, as well as Best Buy, Sears, Fry's, Brandsmart, HH Gregg, NewEgg, Tigerdirect, etc, plus of course our web site. You will be able to find it almost everywhere you can buy 3D TVs.
Although the final price is not determined yet, most likely it will be $129. If not exactly that, certainly within several dollars 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:36 PM
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Is there a release date for the x103s yet? Will online retailers such as Amazon carry them? If not can I get a list of online retailers that will? Did you guys decide on a price? If not can I get a price range? (I have to prepare, I need 6 pairs Oh my Oh my) 

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I'll probably pick up a pair of the X103's as I find the Panasonic glasses uncomfortable for long viewing sessions. If they aren't any more comfortable, they'll be returned.

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Just got off the phone with a csr from Monster and he said late Nov. for a release date.
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I'll probably pick up a pair of the X103's as I find the Panasonic glasses uncomfortable for long viewing sessions. If they aren't any more comfortable, they'll be returned.

I find the Pansonic glasses to be relatively uncofortable for viewing an entire movie. This is disappointing.

I will probably pick up a pair of the x103s as well to see if they are more comfortable but i am concerned they will loose some color accuracy because the Panasonic glasses have a tint to them that i am sure the tv must take into account when displaying 3d content.
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IFA 2010 - XpanD launches universal 3D specs
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And the cinema-quality glasses will be available in Europe and the US from the end of October. They'll arrive in black, white, red or silver (with further colour options to follow, including pink and orange) and cost £99 (or 129/US$129).

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Still at $129


shouldn't these be cheaper than the manufacture brand by quite a bit?

I really hope we see cheap($20-$40) generic 3D glasses by next year. Monoprice hurry up and make some please!!
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129 Euros cost about 165 US$ and 99 British pounds cost about $150 so it appears that there may be an error in the estiamted US pricing of $129 quoted in the anoucement.
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129 Euros cost about 165 US$ and 99 British pounds cost about $150 so it appears that there may be an error in the estiamted US pricing of $129 quoted in the anoucement.

Euro price usually include VAT. Also prices in Europe tend to be more expensive than the US prices.
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It's now October and I still don't see the X103's listed on Amazon or the few other web sites I checked. Did XpanD miss their release date (AGAIN) since just a month ago they were saying they would be released by the end of Sept.?

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It's now October and I still don't see the X103's listed on Amazon or the few other web sites I checked. Did XpanD miss their release date (AGAIN) since just a month ago they were saying they would be released by the end of Sept.?

Where to test and buy Universal 3D Glasses?

http://www.xpandcinema.com/locations/
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It's now October and I still don't see the X103's listed... Did XpanD miss their release date (AGAIN) since just a month ago they were saying they would be released by the end of Sept.?

Month ago at IFA2010 they said end of october also
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I'm sure Monster will advertise brighter brights, redder reds, bluer blues, greener greens, and operates at 3 THz, all for triple the cost of normal glasses.
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I'm sure Monster will advertise brighter brights, redder reds, bluer blues, greener greens, and operates at 3 THz, all for triple the cost of normal glasses.

Actually, their glasses are about $20 more after you buy the IR to RF converter. $169 versus $149.
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XpanD's X103 universal 3D glasses ready for pre-order, only $129

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XpanD's X103 universal 3D glasses will ship soon, and are ready for pre-order over at Amazon.com. They'll cost $129 - cheaper then most companies active-shutter glasses!!. The X103 works with all active-shutter 3D TVs (here's a complete list from XpanD). They use standard CR2032 batteries which will provide up to 100 hours of use and are easily replaceable.

http://www.3d-display-info.com/xpand...order-only-129
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XpanD's X103 universal 3D glasses ready for pre-order, only $129



http://www.3d-display-info.com/xpand...order-only-129

I just sent XpanD an email to verify the X103 supports the NVIDIA 3D Vision emitter. It would suck if it supports all the 3DTVs but not 3D Vision...
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I just sent XpanD an email to verify the X103 supports the NVIDIA 3D Vision emitter. It would suck if it supports all the 3DTVs but not 3D Vision...

Supports

3D LCD TV Sony®
Samsung®
LG®
Philips®
3D DLP TV Mitsubishi®
3D Plasma TV Panasonic®
Samsung®
Cinema XpanD Cinema

http://www.xpandcinema.com/products/glasses/X103-home/
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Supports

3D LCD TV Sony®
Samsung®
LG®
Philips®
3D DLP TV Mitsubishi®
3D Plasma TV Panasonic®
Samsung®
Cinema XpanD Cinema

http://www.xpandcinema.com/products/glasses/X103-home/

Yeah I saw that list and since 3D Vision wasn't listed I emailed them. It would be an epic fail if it wasn't since that would be my only reason for getting the X103...
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I got an email back and they don't support 3D Vision since it is a "closed system". They also referred me to their forums where I can ask questions about products in the future where I found this post:

http://today3d-forum.916664.n3.nabbl....html#a1575600

According to that the X103 will support 3D Vision through a firmware update later this year.
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Do the glases actually have ugradable firmware inside of them?
Or do they mean that a revision of the glases will be avaialble later this year that will work with the Nvidia 3D vision emitter?
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Do the glases actually have ugradable firmware inside of them?
Or do they mean that a revision of the glases will be avaialble later this year that will work with the Nvidia 3D vision emitter?

The firmware inside is upgradeable so that XpanD can add new sync codes/timing for new 3DTVs.
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The firmware inside is upgradeable so that XpanD can add new sync codes/timing for new 3DTVs.

Sounds like nvidia wants some $$$ for their IR frequency and encryption method. This is exactly why I don't buy their products.

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