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I received my 3D Gamer today, after playing hopscotch with USPS. It's nice & small, and the box it ships in will fit in a mailbox. It's smaller than an external USB 2.5" drive, and has a nice metal enclosure. HDMI in, HDMI out, and USB for power. A mini-USB to USB cable is included.

I'm using a Viewsonic PJD6531W, which has been very nice for 3D so far. I took the out from my Pioneer receiver (which now I finally have a reason to use a 3D-ready receiver), into the box, and projector into the HDMI out.

It was recognized right away, and the PS3 acknowledged a 3D device & allowed me to set the screen size. Using the output from the receiver allows the audio from HDMI, while passing the signal along to the 3D Gamer.

I started Tumble, which is the one I've been waiting to play in 3D. It recognized there was 3D available, and there it was, glorious double images!

I'm using the Ultra Clear glasses, and it was cool to see it in 3D, finally. Even after seeing all the other awesome 3D, this was the last hurdle in the 3D journey (for now).

Huge thanks to VIP for producing this box, getting it out there, and pricing it reasonably. I ordered it immediately on sight, as I knew this was exactly what I needed. I was hoping someone would make this exact converter, and here it is...

I would have purchased a 3DXL, but they dropped the ball on that one. Even with the ridiculous price, I would have bit. Now I have the best of all worlds, and not another set-top box to find a place for in the rack.

I would rate this product an A+, 100%.


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Lots of VIP Technologies to look through. Do you have a link for the 3D Gamer for descriptions and specs?
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http://www.curtpalme.com/3DGamer.shtm
- not the manufacturer, but this seems to be the main distributor (maybe exclusive, idunno ), and they have a forum that the manufacturer has been answering questions on.

Thanks for the review! I wish I'd have put in my preorder earlier, now I'm getting all antsy
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Yep that's the one. I highly recommend this device for anyone who is looking to use the PS3 on a 3D projector. It solved my problem. Huge thanks for the developers.

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Can the gamer be used for 3D bluray movies or is it specificaly only for PS3 video games. Should I wait for the 3D theater from VIP ?
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sounds good, can you try a 3d bluray.

if you set your ps3 to 720p output it should output 720p framepacked which the 3d gamer says it supports. but who knows until someone tries it!
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On their site they specifically say it is for PS3 gaming only, not for Blu-Ray playback. They say they will have another box soon for $100 more that will work both for games and for Blu-Ray.
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3D video from the Playstation Store does indeed work, as I suspected. The 3D Sizzle Reel looks great. Blu-ray 3D will not play, also as suspected, as the resolution it appears to show suggests frame-packed 1080p. The disc will start, but there is a random green image.

I would also assume an movies purchased on the store will play fine. I have not tried SBS, as there is no way that would work. The PS3 has no idea it's 3D, and you'll just get two images side by side.

Every game has worked, and I've launched most of them.

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Awesome news! My guess is that there is no ghosting?
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There are no ghosts. I used the the whole weekend, and it worked flawlessly. Just need more content now!

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Could you please try a 3D movie from VUDU? The first movie is free. Also there are a few preview clips you could try as well. If the Gamer can play those then I think that's all I would need. At least until Netflix starts renting 3D blu-rays, if they ever do.
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I played COD and NBA 2K11 in 3D it was pretty sick.
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Thank you for this review - very encouraging!

VIP apparently has:
- the Gamer for games, and will be coming out with:
- the Displayer for games and blu-ray, and
- the Theatre for games, blu-ray and cable/streaming feeds
www.3d-vip.com

Gravy, do you have access to a non-3d ready dlp projector for testing? The techs at VIP claim the unit should work with virtually any dlp display (it will do 60hz per eye on 120hz-capable projectors, and 30hz on 60hz projectors).

I have an HD70, which is 120hz capable but not labeled 3d-ready; I'm hoping for a confirmation that the 3d-Theatre will work as advertised before plunking down the cash.
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I do have access to a non-DLP projector. If they would like me to test their stuff, I am more than happy. So far, so good.

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If VUDU, or any other service use SBS (which I suspect they do), it's a DOA discussion. 3D Gamer does one thing, and one thing well. It converts the 3D signal from a PS3, to the needed frame-sequential 120Hz, 1280x720 signal for DLP projectors. I realize this may be an odd detail, but it was just what the doctor ordered for me. I've already been able to enjoy every other type of 3D, and this device allowed me to activate the 3D functionality on the PS3. If you're trying to do anything other than play PS3 games, or watch video downloaded from PSN in 3D, I'd suggest you wait for future products. Their future offerings do sound very interesting.

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I do have access to a non-DLP projector. If they would like me to test their stuff, I am more than happy. So far, so good.

Actually, not a non-DLP... but a DLP, non-3D.

But keep us posted if non-DLP works!
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Thanks. I was hoping since the Vudu software is installed on the PS3 it might use the same format as the PSN. Might be worth a shot.

At any rate thanks for your review.
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Your hopes are not dashed. VUDU works in 3D, with the 3D Gamer. Yay!

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Your hopes are not dashed. VUDU works in 3D, with the 3D Gamer. Yay!

I've never used VUDU. How good is the picture quality in comparison to blu-ray?
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Cool! Thanks gravy.
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I can't wait to hear about the 3D-Vip 3D Displayer product.

It works with 3D BluRays which is what I'm most interested in.

It is supposed to be up for pre-order this week or next.

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Might have to give it a try then. Sure would save a bundle on 3D blu rays.
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I've never used VUDU. How good is the picture quality in comparison to blu-ray?

I don't know about the 3D movies on Vudu, since I haven't seen any, but the 1080P movies look pretty good. Not Blu-ray good but close. They give you a $5.99 credit for your first movie and they don't ask for a credit card. Although I have only watched two movies so far. One on each of my PS3's.

If the 3D movies look as good I would probably rent them there rather than buy. That would pay for the VIP Gamer in no time.
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Thanks! I've paid way too much for 3d blu rays. Good to hear there are rental options.
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I've never used VUDU. How good is the picture quality in comparison to blu-ray?


VUDU's top tier streaming on my 12' x 5' screen is by far the best streaming service I have used. Others are PSN, Netflix and Apple TV.

The newer titles are very close to my Blu-Ray's.
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VUDU's top tier streaming on my 12' x 5' screen is by far the best streaming service I have used. Others are PSN, Netflix and Apple TV.

The newer titles are very close to my Blu-Ray's.

This is great to know. I am slowly learning my way in to 3d and most of the 3d blu rays available are not movies I would really want to buy - with the exception of How to Train Your Dragon (Rocks!!!).

Now I just have to wait and see if the VIP Displayer or Theatre will work on my setup.
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The newer titles are very close to my Blu-Ray's.

Awesome! Thanks! Sure beats spending $35+ a movie.
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Just got mine in today! So here's a second review

I didn't have quite the trouble-free setup described above, but that was my fault - turns out some of my supposedly high-speed hdmi cables were not - so I kept getting dropouts. But when I replaced the cable from the PS3 to the receiver, done, no problems anymore

Gran turismo 5 in 3d is pretty amazing, and I can't wait to try vudu.

Also, I went a step further in testing - My HTPC works perfectly through it! Woohoo! What that means is, just like that, I now have a simple "change the receiver" theater again, for the first time since I started dabbling in 3d! MAN you don't realize how cool it is to finally be there!

The configuration is:

Sources (PS3/HTPC) -> HDMI 1.4 receiver -> 3d-gamer -> projector (pro350w)

The htpc is outputting from an ATI 6870, and it was shockingly easy to configure. The ATI card recognized it as 3d right off the bat, and the first test worked. I was expecting trouble from two things; I'd heard people say that the ATI drivers had issues enabling 3d with receivers in the chain, and the ATI drivers supposedly don't automatically enable unless they recognize the edid... I thought there would be no way it would recognize this since it was so new, but it did, and no issues with audio via the receiver either.

The receiver is a Pioneer VSX-520-K




Anyway, I'd score this little guy 100%. Awesome product.
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Also... Darnit... With all the potential snafus I had expected, I was planning on spending most of the evening testing and configuring. What do I do with the rest of my evening? Actually play games I guess?!
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I'm also curious if this guy works on a non 3D DLP projector. If so I'm in
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