I have started this thread for conversations relating to the Vip Theatre product,
as it seems there is alot of interest in this unit, and we are getting spread out in other threads.
First a link to the website........... http://www.3d-vip.com/
Here's some pics..........
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Hope those of you who are testing the theatre product, and those interested in buying it will join us here. I feel bad we have hijacked, in a way, some other threads. So now we have our own to share tips and tricks.
Here are some results of my testing so far.......
I also own a Samsung PN50C680 so comparisons are valid for me as I am comparing what I see on the test units to what I see on
that Display.
The first unit I tried it on was My Epson HC8100 projector. (1.0 gain Screen 106"), This Test also used the PS3 as my source.
The unit is very simple in terms of connection, HDMI in, HDMI out to whatever display you are using. There is also a USB port that gives the unit its power, and the emitter also connects directly to the Theatre unit itself. A wall outlet power is recomended, in my test the PS3 did not put out a sufficient amount of power for the unit, to power the emitter, thus my range was limited to about 3 feet at first. You will want to get a wall block as adaptor for the unit, it must be no more than .5v and 1.0 amp if you are going to use the emitter and glasses that Vip sells for proper power,I had one for an old cell phone, and once that was put in place the emitter easily had a range of 15 to 20 feet.
There is also a set of 6 Dip swithces on the rear of the unit,(more on those later). For this test the number 1 dip switch needs to be in the down position as the Epson is a 60hz LCD.
After powering on the PS3 it immeditely recognized that is was connected to a 3D display, YEAH!!! After setting the screen size we were off and running. My first test was Superstardust 3D, and the theatre Unit did its job! After a few clicks I was playing a 3D game on a projector I was never supposed to be playing 3D ANYTHING on! The image is solid with no ghosting, or crosstalk. There is a slight bit of flicker, thats to be expected on a 60hz display, but killing all light sources and pulling the shades, the flicker was unnoticeable in the image. So much for having to buy a brand new projector just to do 3D! The theatre unit did the job it said it would do. I should also note that I put the projector into Dynamic mode and turned off any enhancements like auto Iris for this test. That gave me the brightest picture I could get for a projector rated at 1700 lumens. The picture was more than adequate, but I can see why 2500 lumens or more would be ideal. Just for reference my normal viewing on this projector would be Natural, or Theatre Black 1 and Obviously these modes are too dark for 3D.
Next was Resident Evil Afterlife 3D, Once again the theatre shined in reproducing a 3D image that my projector was never supposed to be able to do. So blu ray from the PS3 is also no problem for the theatre to do, in fact it did a stellar job. One note it seems the PS3 does a better job thru the theatre when the 24fps option is set to off, I confirmed this with jonathan, so if you are watching 3D Blu ray the optimal setting is to have that turned off.
Now as those that have been following my posts know, I did experience a problem with the Glasses and emitter, which is not a product made by 3D Vip. That problem is being resolved as we speak. The customer service I have received from VIP and Jonathan has been second to none, in fact I have 3 Ongoing issues with some equipment right now and VIP resolved my issue the quickest and Most professionally of all of them.
Now for the best news for those running their Projector thru an A/V reciever. My current amp is an Onkyo TX-SR805, non 3D capable 3 years old THX reciever. Should'nt pass the 3D signal right? Wrong the 3D image flowed flawlessly thru the unit, and also thru my Monoprice HDX501 switcher!!!
So hopefully this will also work for others as well. So lets review Not only did the VIP Theatre turn my Non 3D projector into a 3D projector, but it also saved me from having to buy a new A/V receiver!!!!
I cannot stress enough what a great product this is, I will have more test results for you later but, as a tease,.....
I tried it on my sons 4 year old crappy Polaroid 720p LCD and guess what?............. It works!!!!
More to come..............
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Some Helpful Hints.......
In regards to Anyone using this with an Optoma HD66, and the Vip Glasses.
1. Dipswitch #1 on Theatre unit set to up, In fact all Dip's up.
2. Any 3D options on the projector disabled,(No DLP Link, No Nividia)
3. On the emitter Press The right Button labled VGA/DVI until it shows RED! Not Green.(You should have 1 Green light left, and one red light right.)
4. Then Use the left Sync button to your preference for your eyes.
That should be it for the Optoma.
If you are using DLP Link, or Ninvidia, Make sure those options are turned on In the projector menu, Under the display tab. I do not have DLP link Glasses or I would Test That.
For Those Using it with a 60HZ Projector, DLP (Like Optoma HD 65, 70)
1.Make sure Dip switch #1 is in the down position for 60hz usage.
2.Follow the same steps above as in regards to the emitter, I had the best Picture with the light combination being, Left light GREEN, Right light RED
3. Adjust left button sync to your taste.
For those using it with an LCD TV or projector, at 60hz.
1.Make sure dip switch #1 Is in down position for 60hz.
2.Play with the buttons on the emitter, the settings have varied for me on different sets, sometimes both green was the best, sometimes the Red green combo worked better.
3. If you are seeing ghosting on some PS3 games go into the menu options on the games and reduce the 3D effect to your taste. I found this to be very helpful on some sets.
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For my test unit the P1 button is used to force SbS, and TnB for things like my Comcast cable which is HDMI 1.3.
The cycle is...........
1 press of the P1 Button to force SbS
2 2nd press of the P1 button to force TnB
3rd press returns the unit to Normal auto state.
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Information for the RF Style Glasses
When fully charged, three long LED blinks will be observed instead of two. The battery charge indicator is observed after the initial power on LED blink. Blink activity after power-on blink
Battery Charge State
Three long blinks after initial power on LED blink Battery is 50% or more charged, 20 hours or more remaining.
Six medium blinks after initial power on LED blink Battery is 10% or more charged, 4 hours or more remaining
Twelve fast blinks after initial power on LED blink Battery charge is less than 10% or less, risk of glasses needing to be wired to charger before end of a long movie or double feature
Power on indicator never occurs Battery is so discharged that glasses need to be charged before further operation
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Links To Youtube Vids........
New Video Of The 3D Theatre With RF Glasses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J78V5S_Zvjs
Demo With Epson HC8100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hk9bQhcwr0
Heres One of The Theatre Doing ESPN 3D On A Samsung LN52A850
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c59Jj5zaLDc
A Demo of the Theatre Unit And The Optoma HD66.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJnQn9uCtw
Email Address for Video Innovation Products...
info@3D-VIP.com
Link to upgrade Utility for 5.1 Audio...............
Here is a link for anyone needing the Upgrade Utility For 5.1 Audio................
http://www.mediafire.com/?vrvebxuh0ks5nfq
as it seems there is alot of interest in this unit, and we are getting spread out in other threads.
First a link to the website........... http://www.3d-vip.com/
Here's some pics..........
Attachment 214512
Attachment 214513
Attachment 214514
Hope those of you who are testing the theatre product, and those interested in buying it will join us here. I feel bad we have hijacked, in a way, some other threads. So now we have our own to share tips and tricks.
Here are some results of my testing so far.......
I also own a Samsung PN50C680 so comparisons are valid for me as I am comparing what I see on the test units to what I see on
that Display.
The first unit I tried it on was My Epson HC8100 projector. (1.0 gain Screen 106"), This Test also used the PS3 as my source.
The unit is very simple in terms of connection, HDMI in, HDMI out to whatever display you are using. There is also a USB port that gives the unit its power, and the emitter also connects directly to the Theatre unit itself. A wall outlet power is recomended, in my test the PS3 did not put out a sufficient amount of power for the unit, to power the emitter, thus my range was limited to about 3 feet at first. You will want to get a wall block as adaptor for the unit, it must be no more than .5v and 1.0 amp if you are going to use the emitter and glasses that Vip sells for proper power,I had one for an old cell phone, and once that was put in place the emitter easily had a range of 15 to 20 feet.
There is also a set of 6 Dip swithces on the rear of the unit,(more on those later). For this test the number 1 dip switch needs to be in the down position as the Epson is a 60hz LCD.
After powering on the PS3 it immeditely recognized that is was connected to a 3D display, YEAH!!! After setting the screen size we were off and running. My first test was Superstardust 3D, and the theatre Unit did its job! After a few clicks I was playing a 3D game on a projector I was never supposed to be playing 3D ANYTHING on! The image is solid with no ghosting, or crosstalk. There is a slight bit of flicker, thats to be expected on a 60hz display, but killing all light sources and pulling the shades, the flicker was unnoticeable in the image. So much for having to buy a brand new projector just to do 3D! The theatre unit did the job it said it would do. I should also note that I put the projector into Dynamic mode and turned off any enhancements like auto Iris for this test. That gave me the brightest picture I could get for a projector rated at 1700 lumens. The picture was more than adequate, but I can see why 2500 lumens or more would be ideal. Just for reference my normal viewing on this projector would be Natural, or Theatre Black 1 and Obviously these modes are too dark for 3D.
Next was Resident Evil Afterlife 3D, Once again the theatre shined in reproducing a 3D image that my projector was never supposed to be able to do. So blu ray from the PS3 is also no problem for the theatre to do, in fact it did a stellar job. One note it seems the PS3 does a better job thru the theatre when the 24fps option is set to off, I confirmed this with jonathan, so if you are watching 3D Blu ray the optimal setting is to have that turned off.
Now as those that have been following my posts know, I did experience a problem with the Glasses and emitter, which is not a product made by 3D Vip. That problem is being resolved as we speak. The customer service I have received from VIP and Jonathan has been second to none, in fact I have 3 Ongoing issues with some equipment right now and VIP resolved my issue the quickest and Most professionally of all of them.
Now for the best news for those running their Projector thru an A/V reciever. My current amp is an Onkyo TX-SR805, non 3D capable 3 years old THX reciever. Should'nt pass the 3D signal right? Wrong the 3D image flowed flawlessly thru the unit, and also thru my Monoprice HDX501 switcher!!!
So hopefully this will also work for others as well. So lets review Not only did the VIP Theatre turn my Non 3D projector into a 3D projector, but it also saved me from having to buy a new A/V receiver!!!!
I cannot stress enough what a great product this is, I will have more test results for you later but, as a tease,.....
I tried it on my sons 4 year old crappy Polaroid 720p LCD and guess what?............. It works!!!!
More to come..............
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Some Helpful Hints.......
In regards to Anyone using this with an Optoma HD66, and the Vip Glasses.
1. Dipswitch #1 on Theatre unit set to up, In fact all Dip's up.
2. Any 3D options on the projector disabled,(No DLP Link, No Nividia)
3. On the emitter Press The right Button labled VGA/DVI until it shows RED! Not Green.(You should have 1 Green light left, and one red light right.)
4. Then Use the left Sync button to your preference for your eyes.
That should be it for the Optoma.
If you are using DLP Link, or Ninvidia, Make sure those options are turned on In the projector menu, Under the display tab. I do not have DLP link Glasses or I would Test That.
For Those Using it with a 60HZ Projector, DLP (Like Optoma HD 65, 70)
1.Make sure Dip switch #1 is in the down position for 60hz usage.
2.Follow the same steps above as in regards to the emitter, I had the best Picture with the light combination being, Left light GREEN, Right light RED
3. Adjust left button sync to your taste.
For those using it with an LCD TV or projector, at 60hz.
1.Make sure dip switch #1 Is in down position for 60hz.
2.Play with the buttons on the emitter, the settings have varied for me on different sets, sometimes both green was the best, sometimes the Red green combo worked better.
3. If you are seeing ghosting on some PS3 games go into the menu options on the games and reduce the 3D effect to your taste. I found this to be very helpful on some sets.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
For my test unit the P1 button is used to force SbS, and TnB for things like my Comcast cable which is HDMI 1.3.
The cycle is...........
1 press of the P1 Button to force SbS
2 2nd press of the P1 button to force TnB
3rd press returns the unit to Normal auto state.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Information for the RF Style Glasses
When fully charged, three long LED blinks will be observed instead of two. The battery charge indicator is observed after the initial power on LED blink. Blink activity after power-on blink
Battery Charge State
Three long blinks after initial power on LED blink Battery is 50% or more charged, 20 hours or more remaining.
Six medium blinks after initial power on LED blink Battery is 10% or more charged, 4 hours or more remaining
Twelve fast blinks after initial power on LED blink Battery charge is less than 10% or less, risk of glasses needing to be wired to charger before end of a long movie or double feature
Power on indicator never occurs Battery is so discharged that glasses need to be charged before further operation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Links To Youtube Vids........
New Video Of The 3D Theatre With RF Glasses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J78V5S_Zvjs
Demo With Epson HC8100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hk9bQhcwr0
Heres One of The Theatre Doing ESPN 3D On A Samsung LN52A850
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c59Jj5zaLDc
A Demo of the Theatre Unit And The Optoma HD66.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJnQn9uCtw
Email Address for Video Innovation Products...
info@3D-VIP.com
Link to upgrade Utility for 5.1 Audio...............
Here is a link for anyone needing the Upgrade Utility For 5.1 Audio................
http://www.mediafire.com/?vrvebxuh0ks5nfq