Thank you for your reply zkidz but i was merely whining, i already knew about the PS3 update and everything. I also know if i wanted to i can just connect my stuff directly to the tv and send optical audio to the receiver. If i was only going to use a receiver for that though i would have gotten a really cheap receiver that can't even do hdmi instead of the fancy expensive one i have. The 1.4 device i was talking about was the hypothetical new 3D TV. I just find the whole thing stupid that's all. You have a TV that's 1.4, and despite the fact that all of your 3D sources (devices) are 1.3 your receiver still needs to be 1.4. I'm a very logical person, so when someone says to me that for 3D you need 1.4, yet all of my devices i will use for 3D (PS3, cable box, xbox 360) are 1.3, it drives me mad because it doesn't follow logic. If the PS3 can get an update that lets it be a 3D blu-ray player and be 1.4 compliant, that would mean when you are talking about 1.3 or 1.4 you are talking about software, not hardware. Why then can't a reciever receive an update if it is merely software? Thank you again for replying, i hope you are enjoying 3D more than i am. I know i'm stuck and will need to get a new receiver when i buy my new TV, it just bothers me that it doesn't make sense.