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Since the VIP-3DNow connection appears to be over, VIP is now selling their products, including the Theatre+, direct to consumers. I have had one of the + ("Plus") boxes since January, upgrading from a Theater unit I'd been using for over a year. Based on the utter lack of comments from other Plus users, I may be the only (non-beta-tester) end user who actually has one of these. This is the text of a quick review on the Plus that I'd posted in the Theatre thread back then:

"I received my Theater Plus last week, but due to various and sundry other issues, I haven't been able to devote much time to using it. To you guys who use PJs, I'm sorry, but I'm using mine with an older CRT RPTV that accepts a max 1080i60 signal, so I can't comment about the new refresh rates available with the Plus. Having said that, the 3D picture is definitely sharper and more solid than from the earlier Theater. This may be partly due to the picture's not needing to be upscaled from 720p to 1080 and then reinterlaced like it did with the Theater. With the Plus outputting 1080p, it only has to be reinterlaced. And it is great to see the DTSHD-MA or TrueHD indicators lighting up on my Onkyo 3007 and to hear the extra discrete channels kicking in, when watching 3D content."

Although the Plus is more expensive than the Theater, it brings more capabilities to the table, especially if you have older HDMI 1.3 receivers. It can support higher 720p output framerates and 1080p60 output while in 3D mode, while the Theatre could only do 720p60 in 3D mode. It can also output Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA in 3D mode. The Theatre in 3D mode can output TrueHD, but has to convert DTS-MA to DolbyDigital for output.
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Hello, I just came across the VIP 3D line and am thinking of picking it up but debating between the theater for 200 and the plus for 400. The only difference I can find online between the two is that the Plus has 1080p output in 3d and that it is 7.1 (which shouldn't matter anyway since the sound should be dealt with my receiver not this device). In fact what is the point of the 7.1 on the plus??? Any help would be great...

Right now my set up is:

A/V Receiver - Yamaha RX-V667 (3D Ready) 7.2

Speakers - Energy CC-10 (center), CF-70 (fronts), CB-5 (surrounds), and CF-30 (rears)

Subwoofer - BIC PL-200

Projector - Optoma GT720 (720p 3D ready projector)

Television - Toshiba (don't remember model but its a 40 inch 1080p and 120 hz)

I have a PS3, X-Box 360, and Desktop computer hooked up to it along with cable box

I plan on rebuilding my home theater room and adding a buttkicker (tactile transducer) and the darbee (darblet) 5000. I also plan on getting the PS4 and possibly the X Box one later this year as well as upgrading to the 3D cable if this is really as awesome as the you tube video up-loaders say it is.

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Yamaha RX-V667, Sharp TV, Optoma GT-720 projector, Energy CC-10 center, Energy CF-70 fronts, Energy CB-5 surrounds, Energy CF-30 Rears,
BIC PL-200 sub, PS3, XBOX 360, Darbee Darblet, VIP 3D theater plus, and Buttkicker Advance kit.
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Not exactly. The Theatre will not pass DTS-MA, which is on nearly all 3D titles. It converts it to Dolby Digital. The +, however, will pass DTS-MA as well as output 720p 60, 720p 120, and 1080p 60. If you plan to put the VIP box after the receiver, it won't matter. But if you have to put it before the receiver, then it does.
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Thanks so much that's very helpful. I been researching between the VIP 3d theater, plus, and the optoma 3d-xl for a few days now. I planned on putting everything after the receiver anyway so I guess the only difference will be the 1080 vs 720p picture. Do you happen to know if it would mess up the set up if I also eventually bought one of these darbees (darblet dvp 5000) video enchancer and chained it after the receiver along with the 3d processor?

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Thanks so much that's very helpful. I been researching between the VIP 3d theater, plus, and the optoma 3d-xl for a few days now. I planned on putting everything after the receiver anyway so I guess the only difference will be the 1080 vs 720p picture. Do you happen to know if it would mess up the set up if I also eventually bought one of these darbees (darblet dvp 5000) video enchancer and chained it after the receiver along with the 3d processor?

You'd have to make sure the Darbee passes an HDMI 1.4 3D signal such as 3D Blu-Ray (frame packed). If it doesn't, it would have to go after the Theatre, since the Theatre's output is HDMI 1.3 frame sequential, not 1.4.
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Thank you I checked the product description of the darbee and it says "HDMI 1.4, 3D compliant " so it should work well. Thanks for all your help again.

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Yamaha RX-V667, Sharp TV, Optoma GT-720 projector, Energy CC-10 center, Energy CF-70 fronts, Energy CB-5 surrounds, Energy CF-30 Rears,
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