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I have being doing some research regarding home theater systems that are simple and don't involve wires and speakers all over the house, but that nonetheless give excellent surround-sound quality. I have narrowed it down to two options (albeit other suggestions are welcome):
1- yamaha yas-71
2- denon s-102

i know these systems are a bit different, in that the denon has a built-in dvd player whereas the yamaha is just a standalone soundbar, i also know that the prices are different, but it all comes down to this:
am i better off buying
a) the denon s-102 (which i am getting for about $950) or
b) the yamaha yas-71 which i could get together with a dvd with upscaling capability (will run me $680 for the sound bar plus another $100 for the dvd player)?

i am interested in both video and audio qualities

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The only thing I can say is that if your paying over $499.00 for the YAS 71 youre getting robbed.. check out the various websites ..
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The only thing I can say is that if your paying over $499.00 for the YAS 71 youre getting robbed.. check out the various websites ..

I agree, here are 2 websites that have them cheaper, less than $400:
http://www.fotoconnection.com/p95957...er-system.html

http://www.neobits.com/yamaha_corp_o...4.html?atc=fgl

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thank you all for the pointers in terms of price. But price aside, given my budget of approx $1000, what do you recommend in terms of simple sound systems? the yamaha, the denon, some other system?
thanks!!
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thank you all for the pointers in terms of price. But price aside, given my budget of approx $1000, what do you recommend in terms of simple sound systems? the yamaha, the denon, some other system?
thanks!!

I owned the Denon for a very short time,, (returned it).

Of ALL the soundbars and 2.1 systems I have owned the Yamaha YSP's or the Sony CT-100 are the two best (in my opinion).

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I owned the Denon for a very short time,, (returned it).

Of ALL the soundbars and 2.1 systems I have owned the Yamaha YSP's or the Sony CT-100 are the two best (in my opinion).

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I agree on this as well, I only put out the YAS due to it's price point. I know the YSP's are better but I can't seem to find the YSP 1100 under $500 anymore...
Do you happen to have a link Davyo?
N/M... Found it:
http://www.myrtleelectronics.com/ite...item_id=113844
@Zoromano: Davyo can give you some pointers if you want to hook up HDMI devices to it ! You will need to go buy a good sub to go with it, Yamaha's preferably...
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YST-SW3...6027818&sr=1-1
That should get you a good set up for well under $1k.

You could also build your own with my recommendations in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post15929722

Also, Polk Audio Recently put out their Surroundbar IHT, and it's under $500...

I still give the thumbs up to the CT100 though !

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I have to agree with the above. If given a choice between the two, the soundbars look much better for the price.

The Denon looks like it's way overpriced for what it is - a 2.1 system with a compact DVD/receiver, lots of proprietary connections, little room to expand/upgrade, small speakers with 3" drivers, and a midbase unit with a 6" driver. It's kind of reminiscent of Bose.

For $1000 you could put together a decent 2.1 system with a receiver, subwoofer, and a nice pair of speakers.
-Glossy black speakers (just one example of several different styles/characteristics to choose from): http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...08,19,250.aspx
-Capable subwoofer: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-1.html
And there are lot of receivers that can handle the job - though they won't be as compact as the Denon. Harman Kardon receivers look slick.
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I have to agree with the above. If given a choice between the two, the soundbars look much better for the price.

The Denon looks like it's way overpriced for what it is - a 2.1 system with a compact DVD/receiver, lots of proprietary connections, little room to expand/upgrade, small speakers with 3" drivers, and a midbase unit with a 6" driver. It's kind of reminiscent of Bose.

For $1000 you could put together a decent 2.1 system with a receiver, subwoofer, and a nice pair of speakers.
-Glossy black speakers (just one example of several different styles/characteristics to choose from): http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...08,19,250.aspx
-Capable subwoofer: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-1.html
And there are lot of receivers that can handle the job - though they won't be as compact as the Denon. Harman Kardon receivers look slick.

Man I can't stop agreeing with the people in this thread ! I also advise soundbars merely for the fact I really like the simplicity and less clutter than full blown setups with multiple speakers. zoromano, You can always build your own setup like ickysmits said, it may be cheaper and better !

CT100 FTW though :P!

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I agree on this as well, I only put out the YAS due to it's price point. I know the YSP's are better but I can't seem to find the YSP 1100 under $500 anymore...>>

There are some ebay liquadators pushing out the 1100 for around the $500.00 figure .. I don't know if purchasing from these kind of places is the way to go due to warranty problems down the road as Yamaha insists that they will only cover the item if it was purchased from an authorized dealer
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I agree on this as well, I only put out the YAS due to it's price point. I know the YSP's are better but I can't seem to find the YSP 1100 under $500 anymore...>>

There are some ebay liquadators pushing out the 1100 for around the $500.00 figure .. I don't know if purchasing from these kind of places is the way to go due to warranty problems down the road as Yamaha insists that they will only cover the item if it was purchased from an authorized dealer

While the YSP's do sound better as far as a surround effect the Sony is still my favorite for the reasons of HDMI connectivity, really really simple to use and set-up, the price, less wiring to deal with than a YSP, and for what its worth, I think the Sony looks cooler.

Like I have said in a few other threads here,, I have owned more than a few YSP's but the Sony is still my favorite.

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after some further research, i decided to consider the harman kardon hs250 (and even the HS300). I believe the sound quality is much better than the YAS, and the setup looks slick as well, but i wanted to know what your thoughts were on such a system as it is a bit pricy.
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