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post #1231 of 1248 Old 06-28-2016, 05:34 AM
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Psycidelicos - If a one-person experience / opinion / review helps you, I bought the Def Tech W Studio in February and REALLY like it. It replaced an Onkyo 5.1 system. I'm 95% music, 5% video. Average sized room. Loud and clear, bass is great.

CDs and blu-ray concerts sound great, iTunes library via AppleTV was not quite as great, but good+ (my fault b/c when I started ripping CDs ~ 15 years ago file storage wasn't cheap and I made format decisions accordingly).

I recently added an Oppo 103 blu-ray player / DAC / digital music hub. As I've posted in the 103 thread, I've used it to pivot from ATV to Tidal Hi-FI as my primary music source. (I didnt/dont want to re-rip (or pay to have ripped) 500+ CDs to lossless format. So I switched to Tidal as a late convert to streaming. The Oppo streams Tidal natively to the W Studio (using Oppo's app as the controller on my phone). Plus CDs and blu-ray concerts are better too.

So maybe I just gave you a bit more re: Oppo than W Studio. I'm sure you're aware there are some pretty favorable W Studio reviews out there (see CNET) and the user reviews on sites like Amazon are mostly (but not completely) very favorable.

Have fun with your search and let me know if I can answer any questions (I'm not a Def Tech employee or connected in ANY way)
I'll put it this way I read a review that claimed the Paradgrim Soundscape was the best soundbar on the market. After reading another review Cnet claimed the Soundscape USED to be their favorite soundbar until the W Studio was reviewed.

I'm concerned though that I'll regret going with a soundbar. I have unique setup. I have a little 640 square foot studio and I plastered the walls with art. It has an open kitchen and bedroom so outside of the balcony bathroom and laundry room it's one giant zig zag.

In one respect installing a 5.1 system is going to be a pain. My couch is against a wall. In another a 3.1 system would be easy for me. I'm wondering if the W Studio is a good choice given the layout of the apartment. I'm wondering if I would prefer it over say a 3.1 with Klipsch Ref speakers. I'm wondering if it will truly be able to replicate surround sound given the open layout of the apartment.

Have you noticed any deterioration or sound depending on the height placement of the bar? I don't plan on mounting anything until I repaint my place in fear of the painters damaging my electronics. Until I do I would plan on tucking the soundbar a couple of inches off the ground into this tv stand while placing the sub next to it.
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Definitely interested in the W Studio though. Despite my neighbor busting me up over buying a soundbar (even though his 7.1 is sitting in a box because he can't run speaker wire through the apartment) lol
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Yes, room design is an impact. In many cases system and placement adjustments will get most people what they need.

Yes, as many say, including the CNET article I think, only a 5.1 or a 7.1 will get you true surround. The other solutions (bars, 3.1s) are using processing to simulate. So it's a personal call in terms of do you really want / need true surround, do you have the space for it, ability to do wiring (or have it done), etc.

And yes, true audiophiles (I'm not that) almost always prefer and recommend separates over bars. But with the bar market improving with items including the Soundscape and W studio they are starting to give them more respect.

YOU may be better off with a 3.1. I know Klipsch makes good stuff.

In my case, I'm mostly music so even with my 5.1 I was running it in stereo mode most of time. Plus we are looking to downsize so a bar let me reduce by 5 pieces (4 speakers, 1 receiver). Plus I dropped cable and its box.

One thing I'd tell you about the particular cabinet you linked: it may (!) not be a good choice to tuck the W inside of it, or any cabinet. The W seems to have a fair amount of output from the top. It may resonate, sound may bounce. Idk.

Mine sits on TOP of a cabinet that is ~ 3 feet high. My neighbor stood somewhat over mine (2-3 feet back) and said "wow, sounds especially good standing over it". I've noticed same. Plus, usually better to have them as close to ear level as possible. I believe.

Hope this helps.
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Yes, room design is an impact. In many cases system and placement adjustments will get most people what they need.

Yes, as many say, including the CNET article I think, only a 5.1 or a 7.1 will get you true surround. The other solutions (bars, 3.1s) are using processing to simulate. So it's a personal call in terms of do you really want / need true surround, do you have the space for it, ability to do wiring (or have it done), etc.

And yes, true audiophiles (I'm not that) almost always prefer and recommend separates over bars. But with the bar market improving with items including the Soundscape and W studio they are starting to give them more respect.

YOU may be better off with a 3.1. I know Klipsch makes good stuff.

In my case, I'm mostly music so even with my 5.1 I was running it in stereo mode most of time. Plus we are looking to downsize so a bar let me reduce by 5 pieces (4 speakers, 1 receiver). Plus I dropped cable and its box.

One thing I'd tell you about the particular cabinet you linked: it may (!) not be a good choice to tuck the W inside of it, or any cabinet. The W seems to have a fair amount of output from the top. It may resonate, sound may bounce. Idk.

Mine sits on TOP of a cabinet that is ~ 3 feet high. My neighbor stood somewhat over mine (2-3 feet back) and said "wow, sounds especially good standing over it". I've noticed same. Plus, usually better to have them as close to ear level as possible. I believe.

Hope this helps.
Very helpful thank you.
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Hey everyone, looking for some advice on a sound bar. Here's my criteria...

Budget: Under $350
Room size: Medium
Surround sound: Not required
Wireless sub: Preferred, if wireless
Bar size: Smaller preferred
Connections: Minimalistic
Location: Wall-mounted
Use: Not an audiophile, but want a noticeable upgrade over TV speakers for sports and weekend movie watching

Thanks in advance!
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Hello everyone,

I am wanting to add on to my current piece-meal speaker system for our family room, but as I read and read there are some choices to make. First off my setup is

Amplifier - Marantz NR1504
T.V. - Vizio E500
Sub - Polk PSW505
Front L, R - Cambridge S30

As you can see I have no center channel and at the time was not sure if we would need it. Well, we need one as we need to turn up the volume quite high to hear actors having conversations. So I was reading here about soundbars, but then it hit me. My options are:

A) Do I just get a 1.0 soundbar for just center channel?

B) Get rid of the S30's and get a soundbar that does both center and sides?

Definitely want something to really up the center channel power and not lose what the S30's have done for us. Unless there is a soundbar that can do better than the S30's for the L, R I'd like some recommendations.

This is for a family room, everyday use, watch streaming movies, tv shows OTA, Vizio comes with streaming shows as well; gets used a lot for everything. Room is rectangular and it's length wise so we do sit about 7-8' away. Should also mention that the widest I can go is 49".

Thanks

Update: Friend of mine pointed me to Yamaha and Polk for the center channel. Will look there, but thanks.

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Hi all, new to the forums here !

I have a bit of a dilemma at hand. I recently upgraded my TV form an old 2012 38inch Vizio with a 38 soundbar to a P55-C1 Series P 2016. Before 2012 I owned a Paradigm C90 with a Marantz AV receiver that I had to sell due to financial reasons (and I surely miss). Needles to say my audiophile cravings are starting to grow now that i have a UHD TV but the living room in my apt is VERY OPEN!! lol. I have a sliding door with blinds to my left, the kitchen to my right and 2 solid walls front and back but a Vaulted ceiling all in its 12' by 14' glory. for this reason I opted not to pursue the Yamaha's YSP soundbars.

After a long research I am at a loss

Here is what I would like:

1- an AV receiver such as a Marantz NR1606 since I would like to upgrade the system next year when I move to a proper house.
For speakers tho:
1- Would an AV Powered soundbar with a sub would be ok?
2- the new slim Vizio 5.1 is tempting but I would wait for reviews on quality before buying.

3- the budget for this is $1,000-$1,200
or do you recommend something else.
Any advice would be welcome !!
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TV: Vizio PSeries P55-C1 2016
Sound: Elac B5 F/L, Dayton Audio SUB-800, Marantz NR1606 2.1 system
Console: PS4
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I've just bought a Samsung 60KS7000 and want to buy a soundbar to go with it.

Samsung are doing an offer in the UK that gives you money off if you buy a Samsung product straight after the TV, I was thinking about buying the HW-J6501R or HW-K651, is the 6501 noticeably better, what are main differences?

In addition some websites are doing the HWJ-8500 for only £400, instead of the £750 RRP of th HWJ-8500R, are these the same product?

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Hi guys, new here. Im deciding whether to get a 5.1 system or a soundbar setup. Budget is around $1500. Not an audiophile but appreciate surround movie sounds and music next. Room is about 20 x 17 but is an open concept house so it is basically open to the dining and kitchen area. I like the simplicity of the soundbar system but I know that a complete 5.1 set-up would sound better. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Hi guys, new here. Im deciding whether to get a 5.1 system or a soundbar setup. Budget is around $1500. Not an audiophile but appreciate surround movie sounds and music next. Room is about 20 x 17 but is an open concept house so it is basically open to the dining and kitchen area. I like the simplicity of the soundbar system but I know that a complete 5.1 set-up would sound better. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
Our room configuration is very much like yours. We have a Bose SoundTouch HTS 130 and find it room filling with high quality, realistic audio, strong vocals, mid-range and bass. This soundbar is not your typical Bose product. Happy hunting.

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I bought an Yamaha Ats-1050 (is this same a yas105?), So far it seems like an good update to tv speakers but left a lot to desire. Lg 49 4k ultra hdtv.

My idea on getting a sound bar is,
- I live in a small apartment with small(10*7*15) living area with open kitchen.
- don't like wire clutter
- want to improve tv sound to quality sound for watching in 7 ft distance
- budget about $500

I am in a great dilemma of
#1-adding a sub to 1050

#2 get a pair of powered bookshelf speakers
- suggestions..pls

#3 get an avr, attach two bookself and a sub.
- suggestion on avr 5.2 with bt and hdmi 2.

I don't want to spend money on technology until I own a house. Either spend little to get decent one or build slow towards complete package.

Pls suggest some sub for compact, but tight l, clean bass.
So far reading, Dayton 1000, klipsch 12, Polk 505, bic came through list.

What would be better?

Update:
Got jbl arena s10 from bestbuy. Back home, plugged to yamaha soundbar, the bass is good. But I never owned property sub so I don't know all hi-fi stuff many talk. The size is a concern now. I looked at other options online, Dayton 1000l (not finding it anywhere) yamaha YST-FSW050 (114$ on yamaha site) are only two option I find. Please suggest compact sub or should I keep jbl? ($160) but its too big to fit in my entertainment cabin.


After a lengthy thought process, I am leaning towards keeping yamaha bar($120 from Amazon prime day deal) and a decent sub (still not decided and need help) . So when I move out of apmt living, I will keep the bar to bed room and sub to 5.1 avr proper setup. Decisions, decisions..

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I just got a Vizio M70. I've always been content with the sound from TV speakers before, but even to me, the built-ins on this thing are hot garbage.

That being said, I can get an LG SH2 soundbar for free with credit card points. It's 2.1, 100W, wired subwoofer. Don't want to have anything too loud as my wife and I watch TV at night directly underneath our 2.5yo's bedroom. Is this decent as a replacement for crappy built-ins?

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With the TV on the top shelf, obviously. With the soundbar going on the top shelf in front of the TV, where would the subwoofer go? Center of the bottom shelf? On the floor, off to one side? Can I run the system without the sub hooked up? I know jack all about audio setups, so any help would be appreciated!
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"Which soundbar should I buy?"

"Help me choose a soundbar!"

With the moderators' approval, this thread is for posts on these types of questions.

Please post your requests for soundbar recommendations in this thread instead of starting a new thread.
Have you taken a look at the more underrated companies like ZVOX AUDIO, VIZIO, OR POLK AUDIO?
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Anyone listened to a Samsung HW-K550? We just bought a 65-KS8000 and the size of the tv is going to force us to ditch the 3.1 bookshelf setup we were using before. Would love to get a good soundbar to compliment the new setup, a wireless subwoofer is very attractive given our room layout.
I've had the HW-K450 for about 2 months now. Really surprised by the sound quality, and the construction of the soundbar and sub. Really quality look and feel.
Great for clear dialogue and dynamic range on anything I've watched so far. I have a surround system for the heavy lifting.
The 550 should be just as high quality.
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My mother in law is looking for a soundbar to go under her new TV, she asked me for advice but I really don't know much about soundbars. I found the following around $150, is there a general consensus as to which is the best bar around that price? We would also consider something used.

Sony HT-CT380
Yamaha YSP-2500
LG NB3530A
VIZIO SB3821-C6 38-Inch
VIZIO SB3831-C6M
VIZIO S3851-W-D4B (Whats the difference between this and the pricier VIZIO SB3851-C0)
VIZIO S4251-W-B4E

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Hi guys,

Just got my LG OLED 65 and yeah the sound is average at best. I had a Sony XBR900B (speakers on the side with sub) which sounded much better. I like good sound, I have a B&W/Marantz setup in my theater room and obviously know I'm not going to get that in a sound bar but I wanted to see what you guys recommend. I would say I don't want to spend more than I need to. But I see a lot of these sound bars claiming 4.1, 7.1 sound, is that sincere? I have an open layout in my house so there are barely any walls.

I've seen a couple of LG branded that sounded ok, I think it was about 200.00. I know there are Bose and some others.
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Hi guys,

Just got my LG OLED 65 and yeah the sound is average at best. I had a Sony XBR900B (speakers on the side with sub) which sounded much better. I like good sound, I have a B&W/Marantz setup in my theater room and obviously know I'm not going to get that in a sound bar but I wanted to see what you guys recommend. I would say I don't want to spend more than I need to. But I see a lot of these sound bars claiming 4.1, 7.1 sound, is that sincere? I have an open layout in my house so there are barely any walls.

I've seen a couple of LG branded that sounded ok, I think it was about 200.00. I know there are Bose and some others.
Pioneer has a pretty good soundbar, and Zvox just came out with a new design that has received good reviews. That's a very nice TV you bought, and I'd think twice before going the el cheapo route for the sound. You'd be surprised at just how much quality sound is needed these days. As with anything else, you usually get what you pay for, and $200 is not an amount I's use to match up to that LG OLED.
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Ok on information Overload!!!! Looking to go the soundbar route. I have replaced my TV with the Sony XBR-75 940D... I also moved so didn't want to go the wired route anymore. I had my other TV hooked up to my Denon receiver with a paradigm center channel and Boston Acoustic surround with an energy sub.

The room where my new TV is now is just a bit to big to run all the wires and don't want a huge mess. Plus the receiver doesn't support 4k. So that is what brought me to the soundbar route.

But I am not sure what I should look for and what is really a plus to have. I have a farily large room with half the ceiling normal height then the other half of the room the ceiling vaults.

I would like something I can expand if I want surround speakers. Also want something with a somewhat decent Sub.

I have been looking at the Sony HT5 sound bar but have trouble pulling the trigger on sony speakers I don't know just for some reason never loved there audio stuff. I was also looking at the Sonos stuff but didn't love that they didn't have HDMI ports. I was also looking at some of the Bose stuff but for the cost not sure its worth it.

For me I would like something that supports 4k and will support ARC so I can just have one HDMI going into the TV.. I can plug in my Xbox and playstation and will fill the room with good sound with some bass to thump. I don't listen to music to much so that isn't a real key feature for me. Thought I would post in there to see what people suggest. Thanks
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Hi guys,

Just got my LG OLED 65 and yeah the sound is average at best. I had a Sony XBR900B (speakers on the side with sub) which sounded much better. I like good sound, I have a B&W/Marantz setup in my theater room and obviously know I'm not going to get that in a sound bar but I wanted to see what you guys recommend. I would say I don't want to spend more than I need to. But I see a lot of these sound bars claiming 4.1, 7.1 sound, is that sincere? I have an open layout in my house so there are barely any walls.

I've seen a couple of LG branded that sounded ok, I think it was about 200.00. I know there are Bose and some others.

I added an LG sh7b 4.1 soundbar to my lg 65uh8500. Overall I'm really happy with it. It replaced an older Sony 2.1 soundbar.
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