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So, I bought a demo unit and a considerable discount on the 4000. It is awesome- but it's huge and isn't quite working for my space constraints.

I am considering taking it back and ordering the new 4300. I have some concerns though.

the 4300 has about half of the speakers as the 4000- but does include a subwoofer. The 4300 has many more audio codecs it will support including a small subwoofer.

I am worried that the 4300 will not sound as robust as the 4000 does now. Has anyone heard a demo of the 3300 or 4300 and be willing to share? The audio stores around here do not carry these products. I have only been able to hear the 4000 for myself.

Another question: Are the 3300 and the 4300 the only rumored models that will be shipping soon? Does yamaha usually release new audio equipment around CES time?

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Does the 4000 lack a subwoofer, or does it take an external sub?

How does it sound in your space...musically and in terms of surround effects?

I'm always afraid to buy a demo or used, thinking that some novice might crank up the volume and fry something. What kind of price did you get on it? (I don't know if this question violates the no price talk rules of the forum, as your unit is not competing against others in the marketplace).

Are you dissatisfied because the unit is too large, or because it doesn't work well in the acoustics of your room? I understand that you need reflecting walls all around for these units to shine. My living room, unfortunately, has a very large arch behind where I would be sitting, which eliminates a crucial rear surface for surround.

Have you compared the weight and size of your unit with the forthcoming models?

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Thanks for the reply.

- The 4000 has no subwoofer, but has 40 beam drivers
- The 4000 lacks 3-D pass-through
- Has only two HDMI inputs
- is $400 less than the 4300

- The 4300 has a subwoofer, but only has only 22 beam drivers. (perhaps the included sub makes up for the lower amount of speakers)
- The 4300 also supports newer audio codecs, while the 4000 does not.
- The 4300 support 3D and 4k pass-through
- Has 4 HDMI inputs
- IR repeater
- Is $400 dollars more.

Unfortunately, nobody carries the 2200 (similar in the fact it has less speakers) so than I can hear if less beam drivers + a sub produces roughly the same quality in audio.

Some of my issues with the 4000 is it is very bulky and I am having issues with mounting space. This is leaning me towards the 4300 in many regards. My main concerns are really with the sound quality and less beam drivers.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has heard a side by side comparison of a 4000 or 4100 and a 2200 + a sub.
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I have a 4100 . I have heard the 2200.
For me it was no contest, because I have a HSU sub with my 4100. The 2200 sub was no contest.
I can't state strongly enough how important it is to have a REALLY good quality sub woofer subwoofer with many soundboards.
It makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE in the world.
While I am a huge fan of the YSP soundbars since I Purchased my very first Yamaha ysp 1 7 years ago, I am not a particular fan of the subs to come with the new models.
That said, I have only heard the subwoofer with the 2200. Possibly the 3300 is better..

But neither will be able to touch an entry-level
Or midpriced real quality id subwoofer
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I have a 4100 . I have heard the 2200.
For me it was no contest, because I have a HSU sub with my 4100

Doesn't the 2200 have an option for an external sub?

I imagine you have a room that has all reflecting walls present, rather than a partial wall, as in my case.
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thanks for the replies-

@ frostylou: How was the sound quality without the subs between the two? Am I going to be losing anything with the lack of beam drivers? Obviously, the 4300 is a new unit and I don't think many people have heard them yet. It seems they are not available for another few weeks.

I have a room with all reflecting walls so that is not an issue.

@Taichi- to answer your earlier question which I forgot to reply- I under 1k for the 4000. The new projectors will also have the new codecs as well. I am torn about.
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Tough to judge. I would need to hear the 2200 set up properly and with walls. I heard it with neither. So obviously compared to my 4100
with walls, and most importantly with a great HSU
sub, my 4100 it was a different league.
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That's the general idea that I am getting if I get the 4300 is to upgrade the Sub. The 4000 is nice, it's just too big. I think my theory is correct that a lot of the range is made up with the included sub. It's more than what I paid for the demo 4000, however so much better in size and I get the IR repeater and the newest audio codecs. Damn- how do I always talk myself into spending more money! rolleyes.gif
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I think if you can add on a good sub woofer, that is the best thing to do. You can't go wrong with that combination. You'll have the latest and greatest, and it's very sleek looking.
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OK- took back the 4000 and got a great deal on the 4300 smile.gif

I hope the quality is much better biggrin.gif I am excited for 7.1 for certain.
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Would you mind sending me a PM regarding what you paid for it?

Looking forward to your review!
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Not a problem smile.gif
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