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post #901 of 1020 Old 12-19-2014, 12:16 AM
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I just got this soundbar today, my first impressions are its just Okay!

1) 2 two rear speakers are very very quiet compared to the central bar and i barely notice them

2) when i link it to the ps4 with optical and try to get a dolby or dts sound it flashes and recognizes but the speakers stop functionning for some reasons i ignore.

3) i had a samsung F450 winch i returned and i prefered the quality of the basa on that even if the mids and highs were not so clear the precision and depth of drums, guitars were better sounding and there was a wow factor each time , even if the vizio sounds more natural its a little more boring too.

maybe ill change my mind in time once i figure out how to set everything properly but for now the only think i like his hearing the bullets in the subwoofer in COD...
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I went overboard and bought a Refurbd Sony 550, a Monoprice switcher and a couple new speaker stands.
I mean to set up the Sony and the switcher so I can compare the audio from Vizio TV > Vizio Soundboard combi to that of the Vizio TV > Sony > 5.1 Surround Speakers.
I realize that the tonal quality is one issue and true Surround sound is another. But hey, life's an adventure.
Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it😀
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I just got this soundbar today, my first impressions are its just Okay!

1) 2 two rear speakers are very very quiet compared to the central bar and i barely notice them
That is adjustable with the remote, but IMHO you should just barely notice them, unless there's something specific in the sound track that is intended to be noticeable--e.g. tires screeching as a car speeds away.

I don't want to be constantly reminded that there are rear speakers.
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That is adjustable with the remote, but IMHO you should just barely notice them, unless there's something specific in the sound track that is intended to be noticeable--e.g. tires screeching as a car speeds away.

I don't want to be constantly reminded that there are rear speakers.
Funny, I'm exactly the opposite, I have my rear speakers waaaay higher than the center, I don't want to ever forget that there are rear speakers :-)
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Yes i just figures out what works best is to have the rear speakers at higher volume to get more a surround feel, and i turned out surround and there still working well..problem fixed. New problem now cant get aux to work from tv or cable box for some reason,
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123go,
How exactly do I make the rear speakers volume higher? I just setup my Vizio's S4251w-B4 yesterday.

I am kinda disappointed since my new Samsung smartTV's optical out doesn't pass through 5.1 from HDMI sources. For now, I have connected my blu-ray layer to sound bar's digital input.

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in order to make the rear speakers higher u have to play with the setting i don't remember by heart but its with:
center and mostly surround balance wich has to be at max or almost

i also turned off truevolume and surround mode , i don't know if that changes anything but the rear speakers are very loud and perfect like this u actually feel ure in a hockey game and the fans are chanting next to u ...try to play with these settings u should be able to reach a good sound , not sure however if u have to turn down truevolume and surround, i like the sound like that so i just keep them off for now.
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How exactly do I make the rear speakers volume higher? I just setup my Vizio's S4251w-B4 yesterday.
From the remote. From memory it's the middle button at the top, and then you toggle through the choices until you get to rear surround level.
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my question has probably been covered but is it possible to connect a different subwoofer to this soundbar?
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my question has probably been covered but is it possible to connect a different subwoofer to this soundbar?
No, there are only inputs on the soundbar.
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No there isn't any menu item for rear speakers explicitly.
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my settings for

center change it form -3 to +3 from middle
trebble -3 to -5 (tremble sounds not so good on the vizio i find)
bass +1 to +4
surround +2 to +4 sometimes bring it back to middle
surround balance leave it a middle
subwoofer +2

truevolume off when on ps4 cause volume goes up and down for no reason...on the rest of the time

im getting the firmware cause there is a lot of issues with the remote...not sure it will help ....
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Luckily for me the default settings work and since I also have a Vizio TV, I can use my tv remote to control audio volume. For the money and convenience this is a great surround system.
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surround +2 to +4 sometimes bring it back to middle

im getting the firmware cause there is a lot of issues with the remote...not sure it will help ....
Is there a way to check the version of the firmware currently in the sound bar?

I noticed that there is a firmware update on vizio's support site, but it says only IF needed and cites some specific audio drop issues which I don't have.

Has anyone upgraded their firmware to this (version 1017)?
http://support.vizio.com/product/s4251w-b4
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im trying to upgrade it but its not working its not reading the usb and the usb dosent seem to fit perfectly unless i use force (and i dont want to break the thing)
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I just tried a PNY 128GB and it fit without any problem.
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How many owners of this sound bar are using the rear speakers? I purchased some speaker stands from Wal-Mart last weekend and finally had a chance to hook up my rear speakers yesterday. I know I'm not getting the sound from systems even triple what I paid for this sound bar but when you implement the rear speaks it adds so much to the movie experience. I'm very happy with my Vizio sound bars and will continue to recommend it to anyone looking to upgrade from their TV speakers on a budget.
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I use the rear speakers and its a definite upgrade over my original Vizio surround bar. I ended up putting my 38" 2.1 Vizio surround sound in my master bedroom. Kinda cool with the subwoofer under the bed lol.
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This might be a silly question, but is anyone using an SPL meter to balance the center and surround channels? I ask because I attempted this with band-limited pink noise from DVE, and I noticed the center channel was at least 5db higher than the left/right channel. I have tried reducing the center channel, but I cannot reduce it low enough to bring it in line with the left/right channel. Am I going about this the wrong way?

I appreciate your input.
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I've read that the rear speaker wires are 13 feet long. Is it possible to make your own speaker wires, solder RCA connectors on the ends, and use them instead of the included wire? I want to have the sub at the front of my room, not the back or the sides. I've got enough 16 gauge speaker wire to use and some spare RCA connectors readily available.

I have also read that the rear speakers produce static/hiss. Something that I HATE. I am looking to buy the S4251 but hiss makes me hissy.
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Yes mine had some hiss and i returned them im waiting for a replacement to arrive and ill test to see if they are hies free..
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Yes mine had some hiss and i returned them im waiting for a replacement to arrive and ill test to see if they are hies free..
How far from the speakers are you hearing the hiss?
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I've read that the rear speaker wires are 13 feet long. Is it possible to make your own speaker wires, solder RCA connectors on the ends, and use them instead of the included wire? I want to have the sub at the front of my room, not the back or the sides. I've got enough 16 gauge speaker wire to use and some spare RCA connectors readily available..
The cables have RCA connectors on each end, so you should be able to substitute whatever cable you want.

I am really skeptical that you'll gain any advantage having the sub in front, unless there's something odd about your room. But if you already have the wire and connectors it should be an easy thing to do.
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Seem to me that when sub-woofers were new and being touted rigorously one of the "advantages" that was ascribed to them was that the low frequencies that they carry are not directional where the (high) frequencies carried by tweeters and mids were definately directional.
So where you place the sub-woofers was a matter of convienence not sound fidelity.
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The higher the cross-over, however, the more likely it is that the sub-woofer will be able to be located sonically -- something that may occur with a lot of soundbars.
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Ours Vizio Soundbar is in front of the TV and the sub woofer and L/R rear speakers are across the room and against the other wall (maybe 14 feet away) behind our chairs. If the room was 2X, 3X, larger there might be a difference ... if my ears were 30 years younger there would be a difference.
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The higher the cross-over, however, the more likely it is that the sub-woofer will be able to be located sonically -- something that may occur with a lot of soundbars.
I certainly don't have the ability to locate it, but where I sit I also don't have line of sight to the sub. That could make a difference.

Often while watching material I have to remind myself that it's not the soundbar producing all that bass. It sounds like it's the soundbar.
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For those of you that have implemented the rear speakers how did you decide on placement? I am trying to figure out if I want them to the sides of our couch pointing to me or if I want them behind the couch spread out to the ends of the couch firing forward. The room does not allow for them to be placed anywhere but next to the couch so please don't suggest otherwise. FWIW my wife sits on one side of the couch and I sit on the other so we are both at the ends closest to the speaker stands.
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For those of you that have implemented the rear speakers how did you decide on placement? .
I put them such that with the triangular base of the stand, if a cat knocked them over they would hit the wall rather than fall over to the floor. I have big cats!
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We have dogs that can be active at times but that wasn't my concern . Do you have yours directly to your sides at your 3&9 or directly at your 6 or did you go at an angle from your seating position?
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