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Hi, I have a 5.1 Ascend speaker setup in my current house but I'm moving back into the city, so I will sell my Ascend speakers (PM me if interested) and purchase a soundar. I don't want to spend more than $500, I'd feel better about spending closer to $300, but I don't really know the market? Does a soundbar have an amp in it, or do I need to keep my Denon 2310 AVR? I'd prefer to sell that too as I just don't have the space...

What do you recommend for a 15x10 room? Ceilings are 10 ft high. Room has a bay window and has one doorway to a hallway. It's on the second floor of a three floor townhome.

Is this a good deal? Yamaha YSP-4000 for $419... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-YSP-4000-Digital-Sound-Projector-Sound-Bar-Home-Theater-/190796045821?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item2c6c549dfd Or should I go with the YSP-2200 used for about $550?

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Take a look at the JBL Cinema SB400 for $550 new. I tried the Yamaha YAS 101 which was OK but then got the JBL which was a huge improvement over the Yamaha, I'm not looking any further. My room is about 20 x 15 with 8' ceilings.
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Thanks! I just realized the 101 is only two channels. I really want 5.1... Does it make a huge difference? Is the jbl 2 channels? How does it compare to the 2200? Thanks!
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Thanks! I just realized the 101 is only two channels. I really want 5.1... Does it make a huge difference? Is the jbl 2 channels? How does it compare to the 2200? Thanks!

The JBL is only 2.1 but it sounds great to me. Its no replacement for a real home theater sound system but for what it is it puts out some pretty impressive sound. Mine is in a master bedroom so I didn't really need anything else but if it had been in a main viewing room where where I wanted some actual surround I would have moved up to the Yamaha YSP3300 which can usually be found for under a $1,000.

I had considered the the 2200 for a little bit more than the JBL but it had some issues I didn't like, don't remember exactly what they were but I think the on screen display didn't work over HDMI and the sub was wired. I could be wrong on that but I sort of remember thats the main reason I eliminated that model.
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If you already have the Denon and can bear to keep it check out this sound bar from Bic America... http://www.amazon.com/Bic-Watt-Channel-Speaker-System/dp/B002IT1FFU/ref=sr_1_35?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1363883452&sr=1-35

On sale at amazon for under $300 and it is true 5.0 ( five distinct inputs for speaker wire) If I had to go down to a sound bar I would only go this route.

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Why only down that route? Is there a benefit to using the amp from the soundbar itself, if it's supported? Modern soundbars will accept HDMI so I should be able to also plug in my HTPC via HDMI to it, right? Similarly, most have connections for iphones now, so I can play music from it, right? I'd love to sell my Denon and get some money for it and save on the space, but if I really shouldn't use a soundbar's amp, that's okay too.
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You will get a ton of responses here. What I would do is shop around for some within your budget with the features and connectivity that you are looking for. Then, you can probably find the soundbar(s) in question discussed at length here. When you're ready to buy, make sure that you do so from a place with a decent return policy.

Figure out what sources you will be connecting and how you want to connect them first and go from there. That's what I would do.

We are here to help you. Please help us to help you. If you provide incomplete information, at best, we can give you an incomplete response.
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Why only down that route?

It has very little to do with the amplification... though it will undoubtedly be better in your upmarket receiver. That Bic is a large speaker with large woofers and a big cabinet. This is more likely to give you better sound than smaller woofers with a small enclosure.

Some of those sound bars use woofers that are similar in size to my headphones... it is hard to get full sound from a speaker that tiny unless you have a billion of them like that one huge yamaha the YSP 4100 (for $1900) typical sound bars are like minor improvements over TV speakers with input switching, and maybe a subwoofer. So they are certainly better than just a TV but not by much and certainly not close to surround, except that one yamaha maybe...

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If you want 5.1, you'll need more than just a sound bar.

The only thing I can really think of is a Vizio that comes with a 3 channel sound bar, and 2 wireless rear speakers.

http://store.vizio.com/vht510.html

All other sound bars are either 2 or 3 speakers, and use virtualization to simulate rear speakers or expand the sound field (they can accept a 5.1 or 7.1 signal).

I will say that I dislike any sort of virtualization or sound field enhancement; I think it degrades the quality of the sound.
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