The optical input connection on your soundbar is intended to be connected to a TV's optical output, not to a receiver. The optical connection on your receiver is an input. It is only for signals going into the receiver. Your receiver does not have any optical output.
You can try connecting the optical cable to your TV, but you'll only get stereo audio. Also using it that way, there's no need for a receiver at all if you have enough connections on your TV for all of your player devices (Blu-ray player, game console, computer, etc.)
An active soundbar is a type of receiver. They are meant to be used in place of an AVR, not with an AVR. So your choice at this point is keep the soundbar you have and unplug the AVR and put it away. OR,
return the soundbar and select either discrete speakers or a passive soundbar. Passive soundbars are usually L/C/R bars and connect to the speaker terminals on your AVR just like discrete speakers. The choice is yours, but what you have right now is not going to work out and getting a different active soundbar to use with the AVR is no better.
So the receiver's not pushing the speakers so the watts of power that thing is supposed to push is irrelevant if the soundbar is coming from the tv at that point right? So would you replace the receiver or the soundbar? The back of the receiver doesn't really seem optimized for a soundbar. But then the soundbar only has optical or Red/white connections...so are both of them kinda crappy at this point? Should I change to a receiver that likes soundbars and a soundbar that has hdmi?
You are either getting the power from the receiver (with a passive soundbar) or from the soundbar (active). What you do from here depends on your needs. Can you not use the receiver and just connect the soundbar to the TV? If you have another room for the receiver, you can always use it and keep the active soundbar. If this is the only place for the receiver, you will either need to get speakers or use a passive soundbar.
My experience with passive soundbars is extremely limited but I fail to see how HDMI connectivity alone matters at all.
I have an existing surround sound setup, but the reciever is old and has no hdmi inputs or outputs and only optical inputs. I am trying to find a sound bar that will allow bluetooth to hook up to it. I want to try the passive method so that I can leave my existing setup of my av equipment running to the tv and change the optical cord running from my tv to my reciever to run to the soundbar and then the sound bar to the reciever.
The reason I am trying to do this, is because I have the reciever hooked up to A + B speakers and would like my bluetooth to hookup those speakers as well.
I would rather have the sound bar run the volume for all the devices, I am just not sure how to search on the internet to find a soundbar with these capabilities. Any suggesstions?
If you purchase an active soundbar with blue-tooth, this does not have a line level output to feed your receiver. You need to either replace your reciever or decide to use an active sound bar with blue-tooth for your primary setup.
Hopefully you're using the receiver's Audyssey room calibration. If the receiver does not detect any sound when it outputs the calibration tone on the center speaker's channel, it'll automatically configure itself to send the center channel audio to both the Left and Right Front speakers. That's the configuration known as "phantom center".
If you don't use Audyssey, you can disable the center channel manually in the receiver with the same results.
Also, I am assuming a phantom center would be better than using this -> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Conso...ch+rca+adapter It is bidirectional and I should be able to convert LCR to LR but based on what you said, it seems that the receiver would do this on its own. Let me know what you think. Thanks again, I really appreciate the advice.
Here's a vague connection diagram. This configuration would let the receiver control the volume.
(tv, blu-ray, etc using HDMI, S/PDIF or analog) ---> (709 [controls volume] ) == [left, right front preamp outputs]==> soundbar
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