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post #1981 of 1988 Unread 04-25-2015, 06:17 AM
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I don't know if it has the best 3D ever, but Sin City: A Dame to Kill For had a very nice 3D presentation. There wasn't much in the way of pop outs, mainly glass and other debris flying towards the camera and snow and other particles wafting in front of the screen but the depth had a very nice layered, pop-up book effect which I really like. Much of the movie was green screen and that, combined with the camera compositions and black and white photography with selective splashes of color really made me notice the depth (black and white photography really enhances the 3D effect for me).

As to the film itself, its your typical "hard-boiled" noire adventure consisting of several loosely interconnected stories all taking place in the seedy Basin City. The film also contains some of Eva Green's best .. ahem ... work, if you know what I mean. Definitely not one to watch with the kids though as it earns its "R" rating.

I found it for $17 at Best Buy and feel I got my money's worth.
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I don't know if it has the best 3D ever, but Sin City: A Dame to Kill For had a very nice 3D presentation. There wasn't much in the way of pop outs, mainly glass and other debris flying towards the camera and snow and other particles wafting in front of the screen but the depth had a very nice layered, pop-up book effect which I really like.
If that's how it looked, then this is bad news, because that's just not what good 3D is. When you see a layered effect, it means that it was a hasty post-con where they took the entire object and moved it to it's L/R parallax offset without remapping it to a 3D surface first. I hate seeing that, and that's what Viewmaster started doing when they didn't have 3D sourced photos: crocked them with cutouts.

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If that's how it looked, then this is bad news, because that's just not what good 3D is. When you see a layered effect, it means that it was a hasty post-con where they took the entire object and moved it to it's L/R parallax offset without remapping it to a 3D surface first. I hate seeing that, and that's what Viewmaster started doing when they didn't have 3D sourced photos: crocked them with cutouts.
The movie's look is hardly realistic, with fanciful backgrounds and all sorts of CG animated enhancements layered on top of the live action. Given the subject matter and the fact that the movie tries very hard to emulate the look of a comic book, I think the pop-up 3D style used is entirely appropriate and perfectly fits and complements the visuals.
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Have to give another vote to the Lichtmond discs as far as best 3d. The Lichtmond titles as far as pure 3d WOW factor and aggression make most 3d films I have seen look weak in comparison (including the overrated Avatar) and I am not the only one to hold this opinion. In the projector forum, the Lichtmond titles are being considered the new 3d torture test as far as testing the ghosting capabilities of projectors/TVs. If Avatar had this type of aggression, it would be deserving of all the 3d praise it gets. Well worth checking out, but be aware that if your display is prone to ghosting, these titles will have it begging for mercy! Give me more 3d like this please!
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Just rewatched the cartoon/short subject "Get A Horse" that is included on the "Frozen" disc and have to say that this mini-movie had the best use of 3D ever in a seven minute cartoon. You can tell the whole production was really well thought out to bring the effects into the theater space and works like a charm. To bad the suits at Disney have denied North America the ability to buy this disc in our region. If you have a chance watch this short using the virtual theater app on a Samsung Gear VR as it really accentuates how the animators wanted the 3D effects to look in the theater. It's amazing! I've been enjoying rewatching my 3D collection on the Gear and it's great fun.

Seeing that 3DTV has died I really feel 3D VR will be the next step in 3D. Still in it's early stage it provides crosstalk free 3D viewing that truly involves you in the scene and action. There has been much hype as to this being the next big thing, and I think it's well deserved, but I can't imagine the masses wearing a headset for 2 hrs to see a feature film when they went ballistic with hate having to wear a pair of lightweight polarized glasses. However, for us 3D fans it may be the only way to view 3D until the next surge of 3D interest in the future.


I agree 100% about the VR stuff being the exciting new tech.

I do have to ask, was the 3D more immersive with the VR or very similar to 3D TV.

I thought that even 2D material would act like 3D.
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I agree 100% about the VR stuff being the exciting new tech.

I do have to ask, was the 3D more immersive with the VR or very similar to 3D TV.

I thought that even 2D material would act like 3D.

When using the GearVR I feel the feeling of depth on both axises, in front and behind the screen, are comparable to that seen on the active 3D TVs I have owned. I would rate the pop out to be the same and I'm basing that on watching the movie "The Bubble" on 3DTV and with the GearVR. Those who have seen it know this movie has the in your face pop-out so frowned upon by todays "serious" filmmakers. In the case of "Get A Horse" the pop-out effects are enhanced as you are viewing them within the proscenium of a movie theater screen the way I imagine the cartoon's creators planned. In the virtual VR theater space the "stage" in front of the movie screen appears to be in front of the screen in the theater space just as it did when you saw it in 3D at the cinema. It's a terrific effect and one mostly missed when you watch this in 3D on your home setup. Also all 3D content is enhanced in the VR theater due to the blessed lack of crosstalk. The resolution, of course, is not HD quality as your eyes are right on top of a cellphone screen and pixels are noticeable. I have grown use to this and assume it will improve in future units with higher pixel density. The Note 5 is reported to have a 4K AMOLED display. Strictly speaking a 5.9in AMOLED with a - frankly ridiculous - pixel density of 743ppi. This would equate to a native resolution of 2160×3840 pixels. This should provide with a much sharper picture.


As far as 2D material acting like 3D, this is not the case as 2D remains 2D. You need a 3D source to view a 3D image.
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A good one is Yogi Bear. The scene in the beginning where he is looking through the telescope and when he is flying through the air has some really good pop out (the corn chip to the right was right in front of me!). Not sure if this movie was mentioned.
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It's not a movie per se, but I just bought David Attenborough: The 3D Collection from The Large Internet Retailer (named after a rainforest) .
After watching it for only 20 minutes (out of approximately 9 hours of footage), it left me speechless.

I highly suggest this to anyone who has a 3D setup.

Even though this appears to be a UK release, it works fine on my Region A Blu-Ray player.

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