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post #61 of 185 Old 10-09-2010, 08:46 AM
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Exchanged my copy this morning and still the same thing. Again just this title and I'm now done with troubleshooting this. As I said before all other titles work flawlessly. I will not post another thing about this. Thank you all for your input!
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Got my copy yesterday, watched it and promptly sold it on eBay. Bad ghosting and a story that once seen doesn't need to be repeated. Good riddance.
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Guys, Blu-Ray 3D is encoded with 2 full left and right eye views. There is no "ghosting" on the disc. The ghosting is on your display. It is probably because the movie is very dark that the ghosting looks more apparent than the other BD3D discs, which are mostly children's animations and very bright colored. I tested some scenes of this film on my Zalman Trimon monitor and the ghosting looked about the same as any other content (i.e. not much at all).
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Guys, Blu-Ray 3D is encoded with 2 full left and right eye views. There is no "ghosting" on the disc. The ghosting is on your display. It is probably because the movie is very dark that the ghosting looks more apparent than the other BD3D discs, which are mostly children's animations and very bright colored. I tested some scenes of this film on my Zalman Trimon monitor and the ghosting looked about the same as any other content (i.e. not much at all).

I think the biggest problem is when the reviewer says that there is lots of ghosting then people go yeah it does. I'm just glad that the DLP televisions have no issues and I didn't have to spend $2,000 to $4,000 on my 61" television.
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Bat68 nails it, and like I mentioned on the previous page, this makes for a good torture test disc.

It's no different than if someone had a display device that couldn't resolve detail at lower black levels, and then tries to watch a predominantly dark movie. It won't be an ideal viewing experience, but it's not the movie's fault.

Like the above example, the video master could be dumbed down to accommodate all displays (as in crunching the contrast for the higher contrast scenes in MBV3D). But do we really want that?

Try lowering the contrast and see if that helps.
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I have a pn50c7000 and i have to agree that it is the TV that is the issue. The Samsungs (and it sounds like the other brands have the same issues except for the DLPs) simply can't do 3d in high contrast scenes. I have been able to remedy the ghosting in most 3d programming by severly jacking up the brightness and by turning dynamic contrast to high. It ruins the black levels, but it gets rid of the ghosting. Unfortuantely at this time its the compromise that has to be made. Fortunately in sports programming, which is what i am most interested in watching in 3d, there are not a lot of dark scenes so there isnt really any ghosting. At this point, until they make a tv that can actually display it correctly, I wont be watching any movies such as this one.
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Best Buy got exclusive on a wave on Lionsgate titles recently; the first wave was only exclusive for 6 weeks (HIGH TENSION, HARD CANDY, etc) and are now available at all stores. I can't imagine MBV 3-D would be held back for any longer than 90 days or so, as they'd want to have it more widely available to tie in with Valentine's Day.

Thanks for that reassurance, Steve. In that case, I'll just bide my time here in the UK and wait for the disc's 'exclusivity' to expire, probably in time for Christmas.

Bluray.com confirms the BR is region free, just in case anyone was wondering...
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Did anyone have trouble with the 3D cutting out at times during faster moving scenes (especially toward the end). I noticed this happaned on my Samsung 5900 Blu-Ray player, it would only occur for a second or two.
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Did anyone have trouble with the 3D cutting out at times during faster moving scenes (especially toward the end). I noticed this happaned on my Samsung 5900 Blu-Ray player, it would only occur for a second or two.

Do you have a Sammy TV too? I have this happen too. I finally figured out it was the glasses. They drop out of sync occasionally. Especially when bright flashes are going on on screen which is common during the faster moving scenes you mentioned. Why this happens though, I'm not sure.
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I turn the glasses off and then on to re-sync them. This fixes the issue where the 3D turns off or flashes for a second or two.
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I'll give that a go, thanks.
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Yea its a Samsung. I'll try to resync as well.
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I have a Samsung as well. I've had this issue watching every 3D BD. Usually a couple of flashes per movie. Hopefully the new Sammy glasses don't have this issue.
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Tried it out, but it's still dropping out. I hope it's the glasses and not some issue with the emitter. I remember trying Call of Duty with conversion and almost every time I brought up my scope to aim, it'd drop out of sync...not good.
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Just watched the movie, horrible movie, but its 3d blu ray and not an animation

3D isn't bad, eyeball in the first 10 minutes, pick axe up close, shotgun, all pretty neat 3D stuff, movie was though, left to be desired.. Surprised Best Buy went with such a stinker of a movie..

Oh, well.. Bought it for $40 with tax, sold it for $40 on ebay... So no worries...

Until the next one....
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Do you have a Sammy TV too? I have this happen too. I finally figured out it was the glasses. They drop out of sync occasionally. Especially when bright flashes are going on on screen which is common during the faster moving scenes you mentioned. Why this happens though, I'm not sure.

Think this is something fixable with a firware update?
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Do you have a Sammy TV too? I have this happen too. I finally figured out it was the glasses. They drop out of sync occasionally. Especially when bright flashes are going on on screen which is common during the faster moving scenes you mentioned. Why this happens though, I'm not sure.

Cover a large part of the sensor on the glasses with black electrical tape.

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Think this is something fixable with a firware update?

I don't think so. I believe it to be either a glasses problem or an emitter problem. Firmware isn't going to be able to fix those things. Hopefully, it's a glasses problem and a new model will come out that fixes this.
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Cover a large part of the sensor on the glasses with black electrical tape.

Seriously?
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Just watched the movie, horrible movie, but its 3d blu ray and not an animation

3D isn't bad, eyeball in the first 10 minutes, pick axe up close, shotgun, all pretty neat 3D stuff, movie was though, left to be desired.. Surprised Best Buy went with such a stinker of a movie..

Oh, well.. Bought it for $40 with tax, sold it for $40 on ebay... So no worries...

Until the next one....

Its a cheesy slasher movie. What were you really expecting out of it?
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Ok, anyone with a Samsung TV out there not experience ghosting? I spent the weekend trying to figure this out with my friends TV's! I have a friend with a Panny V25 and I noticed alot less ghosting, and I also got a chance to view it on my co-workers Sony Bravia 3D and again ALOT less ghosting.. (still some in a few places) but with My Pn58C7000 I am seeing ghosting pretty much every few minutes.. (had to re-watch a few times closer)

BUT, none of my other flicks have this issue.. so I can only assume its partly the fault of the movie..
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Ok, anyone with a Samsung TV out there not experience ghosting? I spent the weekend trying to figure this out with my friends TV's! I have a friend with a Panny V25 and I noticed alot less ghosting, and I also got a chance to view it on my co-workers Sony Bravia 3D and again ALOT less ghosting.. (still some in a few places) but with My Pn58C7000 I am seeing ghosting pretty much every few minutes.. (had to re-watch a few times closer)

BUT, none of my other flicks have this issue.. so I can only assume its partly the fault of the movie..

No ghosting on DLPs, so it's not the disc.
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No ghosting on DLPs, so it's not the disc.

I wouldn't exactly say that. I watched the first few minutes last night, and noticed a little ghosting on the left and right sides (the center was perfect). If I turned my head slightly to the right, the ghosting on the right would go away, but the left side would get worse. And vice versa. It's not really that bad, but it is there in some scenes.

I noticed this exact same thing watching "Fly Me To The Moon" in the theater.

Other titles I've watched on my display showed no ghosting at all, even Clash of the Titans had less ghosting.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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Best Buy shows it on their web site for $22.99. Seems like a good price.

And they show Despicable Me 3D coming December 14th for $31.99.
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^^^ $22.99 is the older anaglyph 3D release with red & blue glasses. Blu-ray 3D is still $34.99

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Is there going to be a number 2 as he get away at the end
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Is there going to be a number 2 as he get away at the end

Thanks for the spoiler.

btw, watched another 10 minutes or so, and then watched a few scenes of Alice in Wonderland. There is definitely some ghosting issues with this release, as Alice didn't have any.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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It was on sky 3d on saturday I have vt20 panasonic 3d tv I saw no ghosting at all
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Looks like you are correct. I thought I read this was a Best Buy exclusive and is the 3D Blu Ray version that would work for a Samsung 3D TV.
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Those who keep watching until the end credits are over will find there is one final scene (and 3-D gimmick shot).
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