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post #31 of 52 Old 01-30-2012, 09:56 AM
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OTOH, 3D in Underworld Awakening was just horrific. In reading this thread, now I understand why also. It just appeared to be a bunch of overlays with popup characters on top of a background. The whole thing, for lack of a better term, looked like a cartoon. Just horrible and ruined the experience for me completely.

Underworld was shot native using the RED Epic camera.

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Underworld was shot native using the RED Epic camera.

I'm assuming that is a camera for shooting 3D? If so, what a total fail.

Edit: Here's a site that lists them all as real/fake 3D:

http://realorfake3d.com/
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The cardboard effect is achieved in conversions through laziness, failure to fill in the depth inside the layers. But it is also achieved in real natively shot 3D by backing the camera away from the subjects and screwing a long telephoto lens on to magnify the image. It's a fine 2D cinema technique, but it doesn't translate well to stereography.
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I've seen 2 movies so far in 3D. First was Tron and the 2nd was Underworld Awakening. In the case of Avatar, I thought the 3D effect was decent, but not all that great and honestly enjoyed the movie more in 2D in my home theater.

OTOH, 3D in Underworld Awakening was just horrific. In reading this thread, now I understand why also. It just appeared to be a bunch of overlays with popup characters on top of a background. The whole thing, for lack of a better term, looked like a cartoon. Just horrible and ruined the experience for me completely.

If Avatar was just "decent" in 3D and better in 2D, I doubt there will ever be any 3D movies you will hold in high esteem. Is it possible that you just prefer your movies to have 2D characters and environments without their own depth and layers?

I saw Underworld in IMAX 3D and never noticed any "cardboard cutout" effects that reminded me of 2D-3D conversions. Of couse, it's possible that I just missed them in a couple of scenes, but that's pretty much the exact opposite of how I perceived the 3D as a whole.
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If Avatar was just "decent" in 3D and better in 2D, I doubt there will ever be any 3D movies you will hold in high esteem. Is it possible that you just prefer your movies to have 2D characters and environments without their own depth and layers?

I agree. I'll likely not bother with any more 3D stuff. I only went to check it out one more time. It just looks completely fake to me. Rather than adding realism, it takes it away when I watch it. True 3D would be great, but what they are doing for these movies isn't it IMO.
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I have Space Station right now and think its great for 3d, but how is Hubble? I notice BB has it for $20 right now and was thinking of picking it up. Is the 3d at least as good as Space Station?

Thanks

EDIT: Nevermind.........I found a comparison thread.

Watched Hubble on Directv last night, recorded earlier, and it was OK not special but I haven't seen Space Station. Hubble doesn't do a lot of "in your face" effects but has some beautiful scenes.
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If you're going to shoot your film in 3D, at least be more aware of its strengths and limitations and factor them into your production. I'll be curious to see how Ridley Scott handles Prometheus as that also seems to have a lot of darkness to it.

Scott has gone on record stating that shooting effective 3D requires a good deal of lighting and that it is definitely a challenge.

He plans to compensate for this by using heavier lighting during principal photography and then darkening it digitally during post.

One of the many reasons this is my most anticipated film of 2012.

Me thinks he'll pull it off...

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Ive heard Drive Crazy has some good 3D. just picked it up and plan on watching it tonight
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Transformers 3d Imo is the best 3d ive watched and ive seen alot of 3d blurays....I cannot find any ghosting ....I have looked for it from beginning to end.....zero ghosting on my epson3010
Their is hardly no popout though but the depth and seperation is AMAZING!!!
This is what I hoped for when buying my 3010.... finally a 3d movie that in my eyes is NEAR PERFECT!
Had this movie had some popout moments it would have been PERFECT...IMO
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Ive heard Drive Crazy has some good 3D. just picked it up and plan on watching it tonight

If you mean Drive Angry than you're in for a treat. Might be the best 3D I've seen yet.

For doc movies, watched Ultimate Wave Tahiti 3D yesterday. My goodness, I felt like I was surfing right along with them
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HA HA yea thats what i meant. I bought that and Drive today..maybe im the crazy one
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HA HA yea thats what i meant. I bought that and Drive today..maybe im the crazy one

Yeah I don't need to see a movie called Drive Crazy, I get a realtime version of it everytime I go to work
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For doc movies, watched Ultimate Wave Tahiti 3D yesterday. My goodness, I felt like I was surfing right along with them

when they are paddling on the wave and flip I swear I felt like I was going to get wet

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HUGO now showing a Feb 28th release date on Amazon. I had $28 in credit on Amazon so I just pre-ordered it.

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I thought the 3D in yogi bear was outstanding as movie not so much...
My Bloody Valentine was another very good 3D efffect movie
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HUGO now showing a Feb 28th release date on Amazon. I had $28 in credit on Amazon so I just pre-ordered it.

Cool. That seems like an early release. The movie is still playing at a theater in St Louis.

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We just picked up the Space Station IMAX and Under the Sea IMAX - with Ultimate Wave Tahiti and Mummies Secrets of the Pharoahs on the way from Amazon.

So far I really enjoyed the Hubble film - have watched it 3-4 times with family and friends. I addition to the images the sound and narration was excellent.
The space station was also very good - have only watched it once at home but also saw it at Kennedy Space Center ... Looked better at home. The rocket launches seemed to be missing LFE when compared to the Hubble film that shook the whole house.
Under the Sea had some cool scenes - the Potato Cod looked like he was seriously in the room! I'm a scuba diver so this movie made me feel like I was on a real dive except for the fake sound effects they added in. This one had quite a few scenes that weren't quite in focus or were suffering from some lens distortion at the edges and that bothered me a bit. The bigger annoyance with this film was the narration.

Looking forward to the Tahiti film.

I just have to laugh that I am enjoying 3D so much when I was so against it and never planned to by a 3d tv!

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For anyone with a Samsung... Tahiti is free streaming 3D from Smart Hub!

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I watched Hugo in 3D a few days ago. To me, it was about as good as it gets for a non-animated movie. The snowflakes were amazing.
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Animated features do seem to handle 3D effects extremely well. That said, I'd agree with the others above that Hugo is a very big step toward adapting 3D effects to non-animated material. Avatar is hard to beat, though.

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My vote is for many of the (stated) IMAX movies...

Plus:

TT3D (import) about the road race in Isle of Wight where even subs are in 3D

Bugs Rainforest Adenture (import): Some extraordinary 3D here.

Shark Attack 3D (3D is import only)--not great movie but some nice effects.

Journey to Center of Earth (esp ocean scene)

MJ This is It ("Thriller Graveyard" and "Bogart Smooth Criminal" scenes)

World War II in 3D--Wow...amazing 3D still pictures!
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