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HUGO!!!

Martin Scorsese took what James Cameron did with Avatar, and has taken 3D to an entirely next level.

He has created what I believe is the first "true" great 3D moving picture. You can see every single shot in the movie was meticulously planned and conceived with 3D in mind. He's taken classic 2D film techniques like the push/pull and added 3D to make the shot come right out of the screen. Using 3D to create dramatic closeups where the Actors face comes entirely out of the screen, but using it only a few times throughout the film; only when it benefits the storytelling. It's easy to overuse pop out as a gimmick (balls hitting you in the face, glass shards, etc) but in Hugo it's used for great dramatic effect and for enhancing the story.

Scorsese also helps flesh out the world of Hugo with 3D. Snowflakes come right out of the screen, light from lamps/projectors go from the back of the screen right into your theater, etc. There are literary hundreds of great shots in this film that could have only been done with 3D. (of course the shots look great in 2D, but they don't come alive) The way he shot Paris was really amazing and made you feel like you were part of that time period.

I could go on for hours about how great Hugo was. It's really good to see A-list directors like Martin Scorsese taken 3D seriously as a medium. I'm sure he had a blast converting some of the first films ever made into 3D and I had a blast watching them. This is a movie by film lovers for film lovers and you can see that in every frame. It's also a film by 3D lovers for 3D lovers. (yeah I know that sounds kind of funny. LOL)

I'm not gonna review the film itself, as it has been reviewed many times before, and yes it's an amazing cinematic experience.

The 3D transfer is flawless. It's looks truly incredible on my Epson 5010 projector. There was VERY minimal crosstalk, and it never distracted once from the experience. Anyone who is complaining about excessive crosstalk really should do some research and realize that crosstalk is ALWAYS dependent on the display and not the source. Has anyone ever seen even a HINT of crosstalk on a DLP......NO!

Out of all my 3D blurays, Hugo is the new reference. Great use of both depth and pop out effect. Finally a movie that doesn't use pop out as a gimmick but as a film tool. Everyone give a hand to Scorsese! This is what happens when a master uses 3D as a tool to enhance the story.

Also, people should most definitely check out Sammy's Adventure. It's the best 3D animated film that I have (3D effect, not content).

Hugo is the new reference for live action 3D. Can't wait to see what Ridley Scott and Peter Jackson come up with!!
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I guess 3d isn't for me but I felt like tintin was better in 3d

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Well since you said so...
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I'm a sucker for such a well written enthusiastic review. Just had to go order Hugo!

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You won't be disappointed. Looks like your in the film business, so you should enjoy even more then the average person.

Also watched a bunch of converted films like Immortals and some native 3D films like three musketeers, and the 3D in Hugo is much better. I really hope more directors take advantage of the format and it continues to evolve.

The difference between shooting a 3D film as if you were shooting a 2D film, and shooting a 3D film that you planned for 3D is vastly apparent when comparing Hugo to pretty much any other live action film.

The only other live action 3D that has wowed me has been the IMAX stuff. Really great use of depth and pop.
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I had no idea there was even 150 3D releases out there. Care to post a list?

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Is Hugo out already? How and where did you get one?
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I had no idea there was even 150 3D releases out there. Care to post a list?

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You took the words right out of my mouth!
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You took the words right out of my mouth!

There are three places I know that keep lists of Blu-ray 3D releases and here they are in descending order of my own preference.

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I'm curious about the 150+ 3D BD's as well. Blu-ray.com's 3D list does include 174 titles, but some on the list aren't released yet.

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There are three places I know that keep lists of Blu-ray 3D releases and here they are in descending order of my own preference.

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Thanks. The first one is great.
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Maybe a good bit of them are pron
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Mmmmm... 3d pron
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Mmmmm... 3d pron

What's the big deal with shrimp in 3D??
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What's the big deal with shrimp in 3D??

Good one, Rach!
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The only other live action 3D that has wowed me has been the IMAX stuff. Really great use of depth and pop.

Actually, IMAX 3D camera design uses a fixed 65mm IA which is great for 3D depth at normal distances and stage sizes but fails when the stage and distances get larger. IMAX's main claim to fame is really 2D very large screen resolution. As you stated, "a film that is designed for 3D production" is much better than one that is designed for 2D and then shot in 3D. The film designed for 3D should consider a variable IA system so the director has this variable at his disposal. By the very nature of film cameras using a mechanical film transport, shooting variable IA is extremely difficult as the frames are often mis-aligned between left and right. At least electronic video cams can be electronically aligned and synced as a group of images, not each frame as in film.
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I have a great local dealer (friend) who sells me anything I want, way before the street date. Obviously he doesn't do this for everyone because if the studios found out he would be closed down.

I have pretty much all the stuff you can buy, but also ALOT of stuff you can't buy. Lots of 3D from Germany, Russia, China, and France. I actually have over 200, but I don't count sampler disc's or 3D porn as part of my collection.

Where to I get the other stuff? The internet of course.

Also, just got TinTin in 3D and while I enjoyed the movie as the silly adventure it was....The 3D was pretty weak, very little depth or pop. Almost prefer to watch it in torch mode on my Epson with the FI on high. Won't do a full review of TinTin as it's nothing special in 3D. Still a fun family movie to watch.
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I'm curious about the 150+ 3D BD's as well. Blu-ray.com's 3D list does include 174 titles, but some on the list aren't released yet.

There are 600 german fake 3d titles so if you too fell for that , it is easy to understand, I have over 200.
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Weird, saw Tin Tin too. 3d kindve non-existent. Very flat. I would think as it is an animated film it would be on par with Kung Fu Panda and others.

But not the case.

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I saw Journey 2 last night in theatre. It was really great...even the (at times super cheesy) story was charming enough to enjoy

3D pop out effects were too numerous for me to count. In a handful of distance shots the background did look a little flat but good depth and very noticeable separation of people and objects. 3D was very consistent and utilized to the max

Overall I highly recommend. A good family film and one I will definitely be adding to my collection. I went in expecting something akin to a 3D theme park ride, and it was that and more

Hugo is the next one I'm looking forward to seeing

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Journey to the Center of the earth is one of my favourite live action 3D movies. Lots of depth and pop. Shot in 3D. It's alot more gimmicy in it's use of pop then Hugo, but it's still better then 90% of 3D movies out there (3D effect, not content wise) If it wasn't for the 3D, I don't think I would have really enjoyed it much at all. Reminded me of those 3D amusement rides at some points. LOL. All that was missing was the moving chairs during the mine cart sequence.
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The only fake 3D I fell for from Germany was the movies Cargo, and Valhalla Rising. Utter ****. I got rid of them right away and they are not part of my collection. There is lots of good native 3D stuff. Usually the nature doc variety. Just got a 3 disc set called Azoren (SP?) with tons of great 3D footage. But your right, the import stuff can be complete rubbish.
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Journey to the Center of the earth is one of my favourite live action 3D movies. Lots of depth and pop. Shot in 3D. It's alot more gimmicy in it's use of pop then Hugo, but it's still better then 90% of 3D movies out there (3D effect, not content wise) If it wasn't for the 3D, I don't think I would have really enjoyed it much at all. Reminded me of those 3D amusement rides at some points. LOL. All that was missing was the moving chairs during the mine cart sequence.

Hi Conan48,
I have had Hugo on my pre-order list for a few weeks now (it's out 02 April here in the UK) and I'm confident that Martin Scorcese won't let me down.

I am very cautious about a lot of new 3D movies as I don't believe that most director's know how to 1) use 3D properly and 2) make the 3D deep enough. I guess the current trend for fast editing has something to do with it or maybe it's just down to a lack of experience. There are though, too many films for my tastes that either have a really shallow or non-existent 3D or are converted. My blueprint 3D movie isn't Avatar but House of Wax...which incidentally may be being released on 3D Blu-ray sometime this year....read my Blog Here

With regards to good use of 3D in live action films, of those I've seen I would recommend Journey to the Centre of the Earth, Avatar, Sanctum, and Yogi Bear, oh and the last few minutes of Shark Night (now if only the rest of the film had been shot in true 3D like those final underwater shots, then the film might have been half way decent).

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I have a feeling if this guy took a picture of his 3D collection it would look primarily like a hard drive.
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I think I have a collection of 150 or more myself, numerous German titles that were kinda lame but some had good 3D, others didn't.
By far Hugo is the best 3D movie I have seen, LOVE IT!

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I wish there wasn't a shortage of 4tb drives right now. LOL.

Next movie to watch today is Happy Feet 2!
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I have a great local dealer (friend) who sells me anything I want, way before the street date. Obviously he doesn't do this for everyone because if the studios found out he would be closed down.

I have pretty much all the stuff you can buy, but also ALOT of stuff you can't buy. Lots of 3D from Germany, Russia, China, and France. I actually have over 200, but I don't count sampler disc's or 3D porn as part of my collection.

Where to I get the other stuff? The internet of course.

Also, just got TinTin in 3D and while I enjoyed the movie as the silly adventure it was....The 3D was pretty weak, very little depth or pop. Almost prefer to watch it in torch mode on my Epson with the FI on high. Won't do a full review of TinTin as it's nothing special in 3D. Still a fun family movie to watch.

i watched tin-tin a few days ago and there was a lot of depth. i do not remember if there was a lot of pop out, but i remember i was really impressed with the depth. i only have 10gb sbs files, not retail disk so im not sure if that makes a big difference or not.

hugo looked very good as well. the long hallways looked like my tv was stretched all the way back, the depth is simply awesome. the movie itself, i thought started off very good, but felt a little slow towards the middle to end. just my opinion.
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I was not trying to show off. If I had said that I have 10 movies and Hugo is the best one. Who would care? I'm simply stating how great the 3D in Hugo is, and that I have experience to back up that claim. THAT'S IT!

Why would I care what people think of how many movies I have? I'm sure that there are people on here that have even more then I do.

When did I ever mention torrent sites? Seriously, newbs like you are reason why many veteran posters stop posting on forums like this.

I RIP my own BOUGHT BD to hard drive and play them throughout my house on a 12tb NAS setup. Not everything that is on a hard drive is pirated genius.
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You download them, you don't have to lie. I personally don't care, but I don't buy the whole "my dealer friend gets me them early." If that is the case, take a picture of your Happy Feet 2 and Tintin 3D Blu-rays with a note with your screen name on it.
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