In Ontario we have a chain of stores called beatgoeson.com and can get some good deals on some cheap 3D movies when they become available. Can search the site seeing what is in stock only and I'm pretty sure the ship/deliver stateside as well
Today I went to my local used cd/vinyl store. They had a section for 3d but it was small. But they had a bunch scattered in with the other blurays so I had to go digging. Mostly popular movies. Bought 6 and paid $94. Cheapest one was Nitro Circus Movie for $4, picked up most of the the marvel super hero movies.Next visit im sure ill have most of what I want that they sell, after that ill have to hit amazon
I still don't understanding why they price them so high. One would think 3D adoption would have fared better if they were somewhat reasonable but who can afford to pay $30 a pop every time?
Most in store are $30-$35, thats why im probabl just going to stick with the used placed that averages $15. Seems like they charge $5 for a 3d blu ray disc itself if you buy new I think movie companies need to trim down instead of trying to put ever version of the movie into one box. I think even Amazon is overpriced on some blurays.
Clash of the Titans was converted for $4.5M. Titanic cost $18M. Noah cost $10M.
For every million dollars spent on a conversion, they have to sell 100,000 units at $30 to break even (assuming studios pocket 30% of the revenue from a disc sale)
People balk at $30 for new releases, let alone catalog conversions.
$20 is a more realistic sale price, and $5M is a reasonable price for the conversion of a catalog. But then you have to sell over 800K 3D copies to break even.
The only way to justify a 2D>3D catalog conversion would be to also release it theatrically. And I don't think there are enough screens or enough demand to release any substantial number of catalog conversions.
Does that 100,000 units at $30 per take into consideration the inclusion of packages offering the 3D+blu-ray+ SD? Your information is very interesting. Does the increase in cost (Titanic vs Noah) result in higher quality 3D? Why would a company like Disney choose not to release a 3D version in the US when doing so would only help reach the 100,000 break even number and garner the higher profit margin having reached the magic 100,000 sales?
Chances are high that the SKU with the 3D disc would also have 2D Blu-ray and DVD. Is 3D is the reason they buy that SKU, or are the DVD and 2D Blu-ray the reasons? It varies from customer to customer. For a $5M conversion, the studios would need to sell 500K copies of the 3D combo, ALL to people who want the 3D version, just to have funds to pay for the conversion.
Your information is very interesting. Does the increase in cost (Titanic vs Noah) result in higher quality 3D?
Yes it does. But after a certain amount there will probably be diminishing returns. The sweet spot is probably somewhere in the $10M range.
Why would a company like Disney choose not to release a 3D version in the US when doing so would only help reach the 100,000 break even number and garner the higher profit margin having reached the magic 100,000 sales?
Just to be clear, I estimated that they need to sell 100,000 units per million dollars spent on conversion- so a $10M conversion needs to sell 1 million 3D discs just to generate enough money to pay for the conversion.
Why doesn't Disney release 3D discs for their latest animations? Well, it probably has something to do with the fact that 3D (and/or 3D combos) of animated movies only account for about 5% of that title's home video sales, per Nielsen data. And then, some people just want the 2D Blu-ray, DVD and digital copy, but Nielsen officially counts it as a 3D sale. 5% of, say, 4 million total home video unit sales translates to 200K 3D Blu-ray/DVD combo packs. Assuming a $30 combo and 30% studio share, the studio brings in just $1.8M. But since some of those customers would have bought a 2D Blu-ray+DVD (non-3D) combo pack if it were available, there's a chunk of that $1.8M that 3D can't take credit for.
So not including a 3D version is only costing Disney probably $1-1.5M per title in missing sales.
Maybe they're hoping to convince people to see it in theaters to make up for the tiny lost slice of home video revenue. Or maybe the US heads are just so apathetic that they don't even want to spend the extra cents to press a copy that was already prepped for international home video release.
But Disney doesn't need to convert their films... they we're made and released in 3D to begin with. The cost is sunk. And they're already been encoded for other regions which makes it confounding as to why they don't release them in North America at least as part of a "diamond" edition.
Maybe they are waiting for 3D at home to grow are holding off the release for a future date to maximize sales? Maybe they are just pushing digital distribution? Topic for a different thread.
$15 is typical price point I wait on, unless Disney/Marvel that rarely go that low. There have been a lot released in the $20 range lately so I usually go for that if it is a major title as opposed to the waiting game. Otherwise best time to buy is around Black Friday, watch Amazon, Best Buy, and Fry's for deals.
You aren't going to get a cheap collection, unless you go used (and probably miss out on Ultraviolet and 2D versions many times), unless you just watch and wait.
You should only be paying about a $5-$12 premium over the lowest price of the 2D version. Its not that big of a deal.
Happy Buys (Singapore) still has their 2 for $20 Blu-ray sale till 1/25. There are several Disney 3D titles in the sale including Finding Nemo, Cars, Frozen, Meet the Robinsons, Monsters Inc and Monsters University, Oz the Great and Powerful, Planes, The Little Mermaid, Toy Story, and Toy Story 2. Couple of Marvel 3D titles and a few others. I've bought a bunch from them without any problem. Cost about $8 for registered shipping so works out to about $14 per title. Be aware that some of these are the 3D disc only but others have both the 3D and 2D. They are either region A or all region. Usually takes 8 to 10 days for me to receive my order to Georgia.
Happy Buys (Singapore) still has their 2 for $20 Blu-ray sale till 1/25. There are several Disney 3D titles in the sale including Finding Nemo, Cars, Frozen, Meet the Robinsons, Monsters Inc and Monsters University, Oz the Great and Powerful, Planes, The Little Mermaid, Toy Story, and Toy Story 2. Couple of Marvel 3D titles and a few others. I've bought a bunch from them without any problem. Cost about $8 for registered shipping so works out to about $14 per title. Be aware that some of these are the 3D disc only but others have both the 3D and 2D. They are either region A or all region. Usually takes 8 to 10 days for me to receive my order to Georgia.
Just to let y'all know I would have NEVER have paid a premium for the LEGO movie. 50.00 is CRAZY for any movie. I waited for it to go on sale for 9.99 at Target during Christmas. Personally my limit is 20.00 for any 3D. And Disney as far as I'm concerned is NUTS for not selling Frozen as a 3D also.. or any other of their movies. If they make them for the rest of the market, they should release them as a limited edition and only print so many of them for US consumption or online. BTW I have all the listed ones from above and paid no more than 20.00 for any of them. And I have 75-80 titles.
The lowest price I paid for very very few 3D Blu-ray flicks, was $7.99 (plus Canadian tax - 14%). ...About $10 (close enough).
The highest; around $60 (one BD title only).
The average; about $25-30 each.
How many 3D Blu-ray discs in my 3D movie collection? ...Going 300 and it'll be surpassed this year, no sweat.
Wowser! That means that sometime this year you will reach the "3D Saturation Zone" which means you can watch a different 3D movie every day for a year and not see everything in your collection. Very cool. We should start "Saturation Zone Club". I think it would be pretty exclusive.
Well I went 1 from 1 3d movie before I bought my tv and now upto around 25 in less than a month. I have 4 more on the way from happybuys, I hope they work out for being imports.
I don't think 40% off retail matches what the Black Friday sales normally provide. Most MSRP are over $30 and price. But might still be good for some titles.
Speaking of used, lots of mentions of used in this thread. If these 3D titles are supposedly so expensive and niche, why is there such a large used market? (Rhetorical question)
I think there is a big demand for used 3ds but not so much for sale. At least when I goto the cd/vinyl store near me that sells they dont have a large selection. They have a section for 3d movies but its about 15 movies, I have to go digging thru the others to find the random 3d movies mixed. But it is also nice with this store in that I can trade in my old stuff, may not get a lot but it helps.
any ever shop at Barnes and Noble? Holy crap are they expensive, I think most averaged $44 with some costing $50. And a lot of them werent even that great of 3d movies.
If 4K/3D Blu-ray movies are any indication of Blu-ray 2K/3D movies from our local BestBuy, Walmart stores; they'll rip off us big time, and Disney I don't want to even think about them.
Only the lesser 3D Blu-ray titles get around $15 during Black Friday. ...And perhaps less for the very worst ones (that are not selling).
Amazon new 3D Blu-ray releases aren't free.
And some stores like the one you just mentioned above, and Future Shop here in Canada, they have a bunch of 3D Blu-ray movies listed in the $35 to $45 range (plus 14% tax here in Canada). I mean this is truly sick. HMV stores the same. ...Even Walmart (check their Disney 3D Blu-ray titles).
No, 3D @ those prices is dead, dead dead dead. Only 3D freaks like Cameron can afford them.
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As for 2D Blu-rays, check some small stores; you can get some good titles sometimes for five bucks (same titles @ the big stores are 4 to 5 times more).
But them small stores don't carry 3D BDs.
What is the majority of people doing for movies? They download them for free, that's what they do. So, Blu-rays (3D & 2D) are for who exactly? The rest, the minority, people who still have few bucks left in their credit cards balance, that's who. ...All that jazz.
...Better get married, have a bunch of kids, play baseball, invite your friends over for barbecue, play golf, work three jobs, eat a lot, cut the grass, pay your bills, get an education, buy two trucks, a canoe, and go ski in the winter. ...A real life in 3D.
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