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2017 Vizio M series, 65"

$999 @ Costco, ends 07/23. Too bad I've already bought a Sony X900e, otherwise I'd be all over this myself, especially with the extra warranty with the Costco Visa card!

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$999 @ Costco, ends 07/23. Too bad I've already bought a Sony X900e, otherwise I'd be all over this myself, especially with the extra warranty with the Costco Visa card!
Great deal! I just bought a 55 inch 2017 Vizio M and am loving it!
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Great deal! I just bought a 55 inch 2017 Vizio M and am loving it!
I looked at the M55 2017 model on Costco store today, the color looked very dull, specially in the calibrated dark mode :/
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$999 @ Costco, ends 07/23. Too bad I've already bought a Sony X900e, otherwise I'd be all over this myself, especially with the extra warranty with the Costco Visa card!
Didn't like the M series at Costco display, I think X900 is a better choice.
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Didn't like the M series at Costco display, I think X900 is a better choice.

At a 50% premium, doesn't have Dolby Vision and has the laggy Android TV OS. I don't think so.
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Didn't like the M series at Costco display, I think X900 is a better choice.
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At a 50% premium, doesn't have Dolby Vision and has the laggy Android TV OS. I don't think so.
I have nothing against the rapidly improving Android TV OS and in the 75" size, the X900E is a great toss up choice against the same size Vizio P, but it is also in a whole other much higher category with the 65" Sony X900E DOUBLE the M series price, making the Vizio M a great value for a grand... I got my 2016 Vizio M series also for $999 at Costco during early Black Friday and after firmware updates, I prefer it's true 120Hz and double 64 zone FALD over the 2017 that is brighter and more color, but is only 60Hz and 32 zone FALD which is pushing the lower limits of worth leaving enabled.

If you want a killer deal on a "Full" HDR TV with WCG, true 10-bit, and high brightness, Groupon has a refurb KS8000 for $987 after cash back, extra warranty optional and reasonable price for those concerned with reliability.. It doesn't have FALD but has excellent native contrast that you can leave it's poor edge dimming disabled and enjoy it with no FALD at that low price...

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I looked at the M55 2017 model on Costco store today, the color looked very dull, specially in the calibrated dark mode :/
M55 has an IPS panel, like a slightly better LG... But come on! Calibrated Dark in a bright warehouse? LOL, at least switch to "Calibrated" and/or trust real reviews instead of comparing in a bright warehouse...

Edit: I realized I was wrong not long after I posted... They dropped IPS from the one size, 55" that had it 2016, for the the M series at least... This is good but a year too late as we wanted a 55" HDR for straight on bedroom viewing and end up with a mega off brand cheapie 4k, no HDR.

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I have nothing against the rapidly improving Android TV OS and in the 75" size, the X900E is a great toss up choice against the same size Vizio P, but it is also in a whole other much higher category with the 65" Sony X900E DOUBLE the M series price, making the Vizio M a great value for a grand... I got my 2016 Vizio M series also for $999 at Costco during early Black Friday and after firmware updates, I prefer it's true 120Hz and double 64 zone FALD over the 2017 that is brighter and more color, but is only 60Hz and 32 zone FALD which is pushing the lower limits of worth leaving enabled.

If you want a killer deal on a "Full" HDR TV with WCG, true 10-bit, and high brightness, Groupon has a refurb KS8000 for $987 after cash back, extra warranty optional and reasonable price for those concerned with reliability.. It doesn't have FALD but has excellent native contrast that you can leave it's poor edge dimming disabled and enjoy it with FALD at that low price...
Just looked it up and that is a great deal. However, never ordered from groupon and there's a real lack of shipping information. Up to 12 business days? Ugh...
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Just looked it up and that is a great deal. However, never ordered from groupon and there's a real lack of shipping information. Up to 12 business days? Ugh...
Yep, I think they put a very conservative estimate, I'd expect about 5-7 business days on average but either way definitely not like Amazon Prime speed.
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I have nothing against the rapidly improving Android TV OS and in the 75" size, the X900E is a great toss up choice against the same size Vizio P, but it is also in a whole other much higher category with the 65" Sony X900E DOUBLE the M series price, making the Vizio M a great value for a grand... I got my 2016 Vizio M series also for $999 at Costco during early Black Friday and after firmware updates, I prefer it's true 120Hz and double 64 zone FALD over the 2017 that is brighter and more color, but is only 60Hz and 32 zone FALD which is pushing the lower limits of worth leaving enabled.
120 Hz isn't needed.
Films are 24 Hz.

The thing with the TV that has any OS of any kind, it requires manual upkeep. The Sony TV's processors are under powered from day one.
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M55 has an IPS panel, like a slightly better LG... But come on! Calibrated Dark in a bright warehouse? LOL, at least switch to "Calibrated" and/or trust real reviews instead of comparing in a bright warehouse...
All of 2017 M series has VA panel, so you are quite wrong about it.
And yes I tried all the different modes but didn't look impressive but yes perhaps it's because of the bright warehouse.
On the other hand there were better displays even in the same lighting.
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120 Hz isn't needed.
Films are 24 Hz.

The thing with the TV that has any OS of any kind, it requires manual upkeep. The Sony TV's processors are under powered from day one.
Because 24 does not go into 60 evenly but does 120 is specifically WHY you need 120Hz when nearly all 60Hz TV's will not adjust down to 24Hz... So it ends up displayed at 60Hz with annoying judder, which some people simply think is normal to the point that when Blu Ray or streaming content is actually played smoothly at the proper refresh,(either a TV that can adjust down to 24Hz or duplicated 5 times to fit in at 120Hz) think it's the Soap Opera Effect, which most people think is the reason to buy 120Hz, ironically it's for the opposite reason that most people think... this is actually a very basic concept for enthusiasts where the average person thinks they have to have 120Hz for smooth playback, but little do they know the reason why...

Every TV that worth buying has some kind of processor for scaling, smart features, etc and unless you have personally tested the 2017 Sony models like Rtings, then your opinion is just plain wrong or based on old models... They give the smart features an 8 out of 10 due to some navigation issues inherent to Android but zero problems with speed mentioned, because that would be plain stupid to have a slow system in a modern 4k HDR set... And with most people buying at this level, they will probably already have a favorite streaming device anyway, and ChromeCast is built-in as well to Vizio and Sony, and that's if you just really still can't stand Android TV, which has limited apps but works great on my Shield.. The Sony will obviously be at least somewhat slower, but got no complaints on speed from the Rtings review.

I am not a fan-boi of any brand, I do a lot of research before recommending anything and with Sony, Samsung, and Vizio all very solid these days, I know I'm going to get a solid product and buy/recommend based on a combination of budget, value and actual professional review performance.

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All of 2017 M series has VA panel, so you are quite wrong about it.
And yes I tried all the different modes but didn't look impressive but yes perhaps it's because of the bright warehouse.
On the other hand there were better displays even in the same lighting.
Yep, they removed the IPS from 2017, I was to busy to correct my post but that's good news for those of us who like actual real blacks and good uniformity... And of course displays that have better brightness will look better in a bright warehouse, so not sure what you are saying, it literally means they just look better in a bright warehouse... So unless you are buying to put in your own bright warehouse, it's a moot point. They may have poor contrast that's hidden in those situations and many enthusiasts don't watch in bright rooms, they darken for home theater effect anyway and care about dark room performance, which Vizio VERY much excels at. When I look at a TV in store, I know that it is probably not set properly and even if so, it is only showing one out of 10 important categories to consider... but other people just buy based on brightness, which is just not smart but seems like that's how you are somehow magically considering to be how to decide to buy, have fun with that...
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Maybe its a wrong comparison, I am looking to replace my bedroom 55inch LG tv and thought of getting another 55 inch, but then found out about the 65inch vizio M series fro under $1000. The other tv I am considering is the TCL 55P605 for $600, what do you guys think? which one would be better for Netflix, amazon and regular tv watching etc.
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