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Why would you feel bad for people who paid more for a ZT? They have the best TV ever made. Trust me they don't need your pitty.

I saw this and had to LOL as well. Especially since I paid less than most paid for their VT60s and prefer the ZT by at least 2 to 1 after having owned 2 VTs in different sizes... But to each his own...
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Has this thread ceased to be a "VT60 Deals" thread...?

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Went out Panasonic plasma hunting today!!! Need your advice please...Which of these floor models would you recommend buying based on value (performance to cost):

 

65" ZT60  $2,300  (2,875 hours)

60" ST60  $1,200  (2,030 hours)

60" VT60  $1,100  (3,440 hours)

60" ST60  $   800  (3,495 hours)

 

I have it in order of what I think is the best value and what I am leaning on purchasing.  I like the 65" ZT60 cause its has the size and picture quality!  I like the 60" ST60 cause of the lowest hours and has the value factor.

 

Please help make an educated decision.  Thank you


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Went out Panasonic plasma hunting today!!! Need your advice please...Which of these floor models would you recommend buying based on value (performance to cost):

65" ZT60  $2,300  (2,875 hours)
60" ST60  $1,200  (2,030 hours)
60" VT60  $1,100  (3,440 hours)
60" ST60  $   800  (3,495 hours)

I have it in order of what I think is the best value and what I am leaning on purchasing.  I like the 65" ZT60 cause its has the size and picture quality!  I like the 60" ST60 cause of the lowest hours and has the value factor.

Please help make an educated decision.  Thank you

Nobody can give you an exact answer because it really depends on if any of them have burn-in or image retention. If you do any gaming or plan to do any gaming, I would immediately discount the ST and go with a VT or ZT.

I'd probably consider the 60" VT60 @ $1,100 if there is no burn-in. You could then spend the extra money on speakers (go 2.1 or 3.1), bias lighting (cinema quest), etc. 5" inches for an extra $1,200 seems like a steep price increase with little increase in visual benefit over the VT.
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Nobody can give you an exact answer because it really depends on if any of them have burn-in or image retention. If you do any gaming or plan to do any gaming, I would immediately discount the ST and go with a VT or ZT.

I'd probably consider the 60" VT60 @ $1,100 if there is no burn-in. You could then spend the extra money on speakers (go 2.1 or 3.1), bias lighting (cinema quest), etc. 5" inches for an extra $1,200 seems like a steep price increase with little increase in visual benefit over the VT.

Thanks Turlen.  You read my mind...I actually have a 2.0 setup with RTIA9s and was wanting to add center and rear speakers.  regarding the VT60, is the hours nothing to worry about?


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Thanks Turlen.  You read my mind...I actually have a 2.0 setup with RTIA9s and was wanting to add center and rear speakers.  regarding the VT60, is the hours nothing to worry about?

The difference between 600 hours is nothing. Panasonic's website states that a plasma panel will last 100k hours before reaching 50% brightness reduction. You can do the math. wink.gif
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Just chiming in with another Amazon open-box failure...

Ordered 60" VT60, Amazon Warehouse listed as "Very Good", everything pristine, original packaging, $1970...

Shipped via CEVA originating from Spartanburg, SC (an Amazon warehouse).

CEVA finally came (some delays), got the tv in the house, packaging was original and intact.

Removed the thin foam cover from the screen, turned on the flash light, instantly showed huge fractures in the glass, right side of screen.

I didn't need to see any more, refused delivery, helped driver load back on truck (yes, 1 guy with a truck full of tv's).

VERY dissapointing so beware of Amazon Warehouse and/or CEVA. IMHO I suspect Amazon of shipping another bad tv which (to me) is inconceivable/unforgiveable that anyone could be that incompetent but after reading this thread, I really wonder if Amazon does anything other than inspecting the packaging then shipping back out. Also note they are constantly raising the price of these open-box items.
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Just chiming in with another Amazon open-box failure...

Ordered 60" VT60, Amazon Warehouse listed as "Very Good", everything pristine, original packaging, $1970...

Shipped via CEVA originating from Spartanburg, SC (an Amazon warehouse).

CEVA finally came (some delays), got the tv in the house, packaging was original and intact.

Removed the thin foam cover from the screen, turned on the flash light, instantly showed huge fractures in the glass, right side of screen.

I didn't need to see any more, refused delivery, helped driver load back on truck (yes, 1 guy with a truck full of tv's).

VERY dissapointing so beware of Amazon Warehouse and/or CEVA. IMHO I suspect Amazon of shipping another bad tv which (to me) is inconceivable/unforgiveable that anyone could be that incompetent but after reading this thread, I really wonder if Amazon does anything other than inspecting the packaging then shipping back out. Also note they are constantly raising the price of these open-box items.

Same thing for my highly anticipated 65" VT that arrived this morning......broken screen. Amazon Warehouse deal also, but not in original packaging. As soon as I saw the package in the back of the van, I just knew the outcome.
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Same thing for my highly anticipated 65" VT that arrived this morning......broken screen. Amazon Warehouse deal also, but not in original packaging. As soon as I saw the package in the back of the van, I just knew the outcome.
Sorry to hear that. All I can say is welcome to the club. I have given up on those Amazon warehouse TVs. What sucks is I had received a really really sweet deal because of the inconvenience.
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Sorry to hear that. All I can say is welcome to the club. I have given up on those Amazon warehouse TVs. What sucks is I had received a really really sweet deal because of the inconvenience.

LOL....Not really the club I wanted to be part of.

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Reminder to myself.....be wary of Amazon Warehouse deals in future.
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Same thing for my highly anticipated 65" VT that arrived this morning......broken screen. Amazon Warehouse deal also, but not in original packaging. As soon as I saw the package in the back of the van, I just knew the outcome.

 

I feel bad about everyone who's had one delivered damaged.  I've got a 55" VT60 Amazon warehouse deal (listed as "Very Good" pristine) scheduled to arrive Wed. from CEVA (also from Spartanburg, SC).  I'll post the result here.  I've already called CEVA and mentioned that I'm in no hurry to receive it, and that I'm much more concerned about it arriving safely without being damaged...than I am about it being on-time.

 

Mr. Biggles, just curious...what was it about seeing it in the van that made you know the outcome?  Was it because it wasn't positioned snug to keep it from bouncing all around?

 

It's definitely a mystery about whether they're being shipped from Amazon already cracked, or they're damaged by the carrier.  Unless the box is held snuggly in place in the carrier's vehicle, there's a good chance it's due to that.

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Mr. Biggles, just curious...what was it about seeing it in the van that made you know the outcome?  Was it because it wasn't positioned snug to keep it from bouncing all around?


He had it the van secure and all, but the box wasn't original, the end lift handle was torn and the bottom corner on that same side was damp and crushed. Probably also not a coincidence that the crack in the glass was also on that same side.
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My new 65VT60 was delivered by Ceva and the box was standing vertically on its side. Luckily there was no damage.
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Also note they are constantly raising the price of these open-box items.
They really are going up in price. Panasonic TC-P65VT60 65-Inch 1080p 600Hz 3D Smart Plasma HDTV (Discontinued by Manufacturer) has increased from $2,207.88 to $2,294.22
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Went out Panasonic plasma hunting today!!! Need your advice please...Which of these floor models would you recommend buying based on value (performance to cost):

 

65" ZT60  $2,300  (2,875 hours)

60" ST60  $1,200  (2,030 hours)

60" VT60  $1,100  (3,440 hours)

60" ST60  $   800  (3,495 hours)

 

I have it in order of what I think is the best value and what I am leaning on purchasing.  I like the 65" ZT60 cause its has the size and picture quality!  I like the 60" ST60 cause of the lowest hours and has the value factor.

 

Please help make an educated decision.  Thank you

I just found a display 65" VT60 for $2000 with 3,350 hours.  Would you then consider that instead?


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The ZT with fewer hours for only $300 more would still be my choice, assuming no uniformity problems or signs of uneven wear.
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Two good 65VT60s available from Amazon:

$2,294.22 - Used, Very Good (Item is in original packaging, but packaging may come damaged. Item is pristine and without scratches. All accessories are present and undamaged).

$2,294.22 - Used, Very Good (Item will come repackaged. Item is pristine and without scratches. All accessories are present and undamaged).
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I feel bad about everyone who's had one delivered damaged.  I've got a 55" VT60 Amazon warehouse deal (listed as "Very Good" pristine) scheduled to arrive Wed. from CEVA (also from Spartanburg, SC).  I'll post the result here.  I've already called CEVA and mentioned that I'm in no hurry to receive it, and that I'm much more concerned about it arriving safely without being damaged...than I am about it being on-time.

 

Mr. Biggles, just curious...what was it about seeing it in the van that made you know the outcome?  Was it because it wasn't positioned snug to keep it from bouncing all around?

 

It's definitely a mystery about whether they're being shipped from Amazon already cracked, or they're damaged by the carrier.  Unless the box is held snuggly in place in the carrier's vehicle, there's a good chance it's due to that.

 

Same here, just praying my NIB 65VT makes it cross country to my local BB from CA via PILOT and then to my house in pristine condition. Certainly not getting my hopes up after hearing all of these horror stories.

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Same here, just praying my NIB 65VT makes it cross country to my local BB from CA via PILOT and then to my house in pristine condition. Certainly not getting my hopes up after hearing all of these horror stories.
Another one? Don't you already have something like five 2014 Panasonic plasmas? I just don't understand what might compel someone to hoard these things.
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Another one? Don't you already have something like five 2014 Panasonic plasmas? I just don't understand what might compel someone to hoard these things.

Go look at the classifieds and you'll find out why.
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Go look at the classifieds and you'll find out why.
Huh? Besides the fact that some people are dreaming with the prices they're asking, I'm not sure what you're implying. I didn't see CatchersDad selling any.
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Another one? Don't you already have something like five 2014 Panasonic plasmas? I just don't understand what might compel someone to hoard these things.

 

Actually, I don't have any 2014 Panasonic plasmas, wish I did, they must really be awesome!

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Huh? Besides the fact that some people are dreaming with the prices they're asking, I'm not sure what you're implying. I didn't see CatchersDad selling any.

 

LOL, then you aren't looking in the right place...

 

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Two good 65VT60s available from Amazon:

$2,294.22 - Used, Very Good (Item is in original packaging, but packaging may come damaged. Item is pristine and without scratches. All accessories are present and undamaged).

$2,294.22 - Used, Very Good (Item will come repackaged. Item is pristine and without scratches. All accessories are present and undamaged).
That's the condition mine was said to be in. When I received it that was a different story.
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So I found a deal through the Amazon third-party for a brand new, unopened 65" VT60 for $1640 (shipping included) but the you had to email the seller (through gmail). I was curious so I went ahead emailed her. So I guess she got it on a promotional offer after the holidays and the shipping is standard UPS. She wants my phone number, full name and shipping address and she'll contact Amazon to process my order. 21 day return and full money back. So I'm not sure if this falls under Amazon's A to Z guarantee and the shipping sounds like it could be a problem since it's UPS Ground. I also work offshore and probably won't be back home for a week or two to accept delivery and make sure it's in good condition.

Has anyone ever seen these kind of sellers on Amazon and are they legit?
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So I found a deal through the Amazon third-party for a brand new, unopened 65" VT60 for $1640 (shipping included) but the you had to email the seller (through gmail). I was curious so I went ahead emailed her. So I guess she got it on a promotional offer after the holidays and the shipping is standard UPS. She wants my phone number, full name and shipping address and she'll contact Amazon to process my order. 21 day return and full money back. So I'm not sure if this falls under Amazon's A to Z guarantee and the shipping sounds like it could be a problem since it's UPS Ground. I also work offshore and probably won't be back home for a week or two to accept delivery and make sure it's in good condition.

Has anyone ever seen these kind of sellers on Amazon and are they legit?

This is a scam. Stay away.
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This is a scam. Stay away.

Figured. Thanks for the 2nd opinion.
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Call me stupid but I'm returning my pristine amazon deal and trying again with another pristine 65vt60. I have fallen in love with its picture and won't give up. At this point I don't feel bad for amazon for wasting money on shipping these things all around the country. All I have invested is time and heartbreak.

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Call me stupid but I'm returning my pristine amazon deal and trying again with another pristine 65vt60. I have fallen in love with its picture and won't give up. At this point I don't feel bad for amazon for wasting money on shipping these things all around the country. All I have invested is time and heartbreak.
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