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Costco B&M has the 65" S64 television for $1299.99.

This is retail price, but I'm sharing this for four reasons...

1) This television is rumored to have a short supply

2) This television is just like the S60 series, except it has the AR filter from the ST60 series that helps it reduce glare

3) You can get 5 years worth of warranty (1 year manufacturer + 1 year costco + 3 year square trade) for only $99.99

4) The 'S' series has the lowest input lag measured of any 2013 Panasonic model, which is great for gamers (34.1ms measured by CNET w/ Leo Bodnar)

Price for performance, there's nothing really comparable IMO in the 65" size. cool.gif

Edit (4/30): Added 4th reason (low input lag)

My Settings: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1461177/official-panasonic-s60-series-discussion-thread/1050#post_23257176
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What's Costco B&M?
My local Costco didn't have it in stock a week ago, but my local Sam's had 3 boxes in stock plus the display model for $1448 on Friday.
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What's Costco B&M?
My local Costco didn't have it in stock a week ago, but my local Sam's had 3 boxes in stock plus the display model for $1448 on Friday.

Brick and Mortar just means in-store only. I'm curious how the term became popular however...
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Costco B&M has the 65" S64 television for $1399.99.

This is retail price, but I'm sharing this for three reasons...

1) This television is rumored to have a short supply

2) This television is just like the S60 series, except it has the AR filter from the ST60 series that helps it reduce glare

3) You can get 5 years worth of warranty (1 year manufacturer + 1 year costco + 3 year square trade) for only $99.99

Price for performance, there's nothing really comparable IMO in the 65" size. cool.gif

Copied from my post on the S60 thread:

That brings me to how to find one for yourself at a Costco. I know several of you are looking. Here is the process I used to get one from the first (and likely only for some time) shipment in my area:

  • Call your nearest Costco and choose the option to reach the Administrative staff
  • Ask if they can check stock on a product you are looking for
  • Give them item #865640 (65" PS64)
  • If they do not have any ask them to check if they have any on order
  • Here is the key - If they say no ask them to check their Depot. Once they get into that screen they should be able to see all inventory available in the region and provide you with details on where it has gone, is headed or is on order for.
  • Call the nearest store that has or will be getting inventory - In my case that was one store in the whole state, 100 miles away (Admin staff again)
  • Confirm in-stock or on-order status with ETA
  • Get there and buy it! Don't forget your 5 year warranty (Should hold me until OLED 4K or 8K is affordable)


Hope that helps some of you. This is not a VT/ZT and probably won't satisfy the most critical videophiles among us, but it a beautiful display and a ridiculously good value.

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Interesting. I've had my eye on the ST60, but for the same price I can get this + a 5 year warranty.

Being that this is more or less the S60 + AR, how does the S60 compare in terms of pure PQ to the ST60? While I wouldn't at all mind the extra screen space (viewing distance just beyond 9', so I don't think I'd mind), I don't want to do so at the cost of PQ. It seems that the S60 is a slight step down in that regard, from what I've seen.
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Interesting. I've had my eye on the ST60, but for the same price I can get this + a 5 year warranty.

Being that this is more or less the S60 + AR, how does the S60 compare in terms of pure PQ to the ST60? While I wouldn't at all mind the extra screen space (as long as I don't mind the size to viewing distance ratio), I don't want to do so at the cost of PQ. It seems that the S60 is a slight step down in that regard, from what I've seen.

Less shades of gradation...which can create banding, typically in darker screens. Black levels suffer with light (S64 may not have this issue). Dark room performance is very comparable however (minus certain scenes where banding can appear).
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Where are you seeing that the 65S64 has the AR filter form the ST60? I thought Costco had a version of the ST60, the 65ST64.
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Where are you seeing that the 65S64 has the AR filter form the ST60? I thought Costco had a version of the ST60, the 65ST64.

AVJ over on HDJ indicated that some time ago and it has been confirmed by Panasonic customer service. I have not heard of an ST64 model. The S64 is the "warehouse club" version of the S60 on which they added the ST60's AR filter to address concerns about glare in the club environment. Plasmas without AR have not sold well for Costco and Sams so they insisted for this year's model.

Hope that helps.

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Less shades of gradation...which can create banding, typically in darker screens. Black levels suffer with light (S64 may not have this issue). Dark room performance is very comparable however (minus certain scenes where banding can appear).

Thanks for the quick comparison. I don't know how much credence I put to gradiation levels alone. Case in point: 2012's GT50 series had twice as many gradients as the ST60 but most agree the ST60 is a better display. That said, I'm sure at some level the lack of gradients becomes a more noticable limitation. Personally, if the banding is at all an issue, in addition to the fact that it appears that the S60 only has 2 HDMI (based on a quick search) I may have to pass on the S64. That said, I'll probably still call my local Costco to see if they carry it tongue.gif
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Costco B&M has the 65" S64 television for $1399.99.

This is retail price, but I'm sharing this for three reasons...

1) This television is rumored to have a short supply

2) This television is just like the S60 series, except it has the AR filter from the ST60 series that helps it reduce glare

3) You can get 5 years worth of warranty (1 year manufacturer + 1 year costco + 3 year square trade) for only $99.99

Price for performance, there's nothing really comparable IMO in the 65" size. cool.gif

Copied from my post on the S60 thread:

That brings me to how to find one for yourself at a Costco. I know several of you are looking. Here is the process I used to get one from the first (and likely only for some time) shipment in my area:

  • Call your nearest Costco and choose the option to reach the Administrative staff
  • Ask if they can check stock on a product you are looking for
  • Give them item #865640 (65" PS64)
  • If they do not have any ask them to check if they have any on order
  • Here is the key - If they say no ask them to check their Depot. Once they get into that screen they should be able to see all inventory available in the region and provide you with details on where it has gone, is headed or is on order for.
  • Call the nearest store that has or will be getting inventory - In my case that was one store in the whole state, 100 miles away (Admin staff again)
  • Confirm in-stock or on-order status with ETA
  • Get there and buy it! Don't forget your 5 year warranty (Should hold me until OLED 4K or 8K is affordable)


Hope that helps some of you. This is not a VT/ZT and probably won't satisfy the most critical videophiles among us, but it a beautiful display and a ridiculously good value.

MD

Do you happen to know the item number for the 60" model?

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There is no 60" S64...just 65" and 50".
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Would love to buy this for the lower input lag but this isn't available online so no home delivery (and I have to pay sales tax).

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Would love to buy this for the lower input lag but this isn't available online so no home delivery (and I have to pay sales tax).

You can get it online from Sam's Club for $1448 here: http://www.samsclub.com/sams/65-600hz-plasma-tv-1080p-2-hdmi-wifi/prod9300314.ip

Not sure about delivery charges though and you would still have tax.

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For those interested, not available at Houston Costcos (Bunker Hill or Richmond).
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For those interested, not available at Houston Costcos (Bunker Hill or Richmond).

Did you have them check their Depot for you?
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Brick and Mortar just means in-store only. I'm curious how the term became popular however...

Oh, I thought it was related to the mail order (probably online these days) electronics giant (B&M?) in NYC.
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Does this set really only have 1 HDMI input? That might be a deal killer for me.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/65-600hz-plasma-tv-1080p-2-hdmi-wifi/prod9300314.ip?navAction=
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Does this set really only have 1 HDMI input? That might be a deal killer for me.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/65-600hz-plasma-tv-1080p-2-hdmi-wifi/prod9300314.ip?navAction=

Nope, it has two. That is an error on the Sam's site.

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Anyone know if this is available in Canada? It is not listed on the Panasonic Canada website, but I could have sworn I read somewhere that it would be available at Costco Canada.
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This is now available online at Costco.com too!
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The Costco Panasonic 65" 1080p Plasma TV TC-65PS64 is now on their web site.

http://www.costco.com/Panasonic-65%22-1080p-Plasma-TV-TC-65PS64.product.100043008.html?catalogId=10701&categoryId=30771&identifier=plasma-tvs&langId=-1&storeId=10301

Only downside is it appears that S&H is $99.

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There is no 60" S64...just 65" and 50".

Oops, I meant the 50".

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I don't think anybody knows exactly when the 50" will roll out.

Hey guys, should we just put Sam's Club pricing and info in here as well? Meaning basically, could this just become an S64 deals thread?

I am already a free member to Sam's Club as a secondary member (family). So trying to decide which route to go here. Use Sam's or open a Costco membership.

Costco - 65S64 -$1399.99 - shipping $100 ("The estimated delivery time will be approximately 7-10 business days from the time of order.")- http://www.costco.com/Panasonic-65%22-1080p-Plasma-TV-TC-65PS64.product.100043008.html?catalogId=10701&categoryId=30771&identifier=plasma-tvs&langId=-1&storeId=10301

Sam's Club - 65S64 - $1398.00 - shipping $49 (at least to my zip..."arrives May 6-14")http://www.samsclub.com/sams/65-600hz-plasma-tv-1080p-2-hdmi-wifi/prod9300314.ip?sprodId=prod9300314

Shipping shows $49 to my house. Really don't see why I shouldn't just go ahead and select that. Gas would at least cost me $16 and I am not sure if my Explorer could fit it upright anyways (would have to do a diagonal, or horizontal trasport I think...not sure). Not to mention I would not have to set aside time to go get it. IDK though.

Sam's club extended warranty info and pricing -if purchased - http://graphics.samsclub.com/images/new_brochure102209.pdf Seems like it is basically $60 per year for either a 2 or 3 year plan...with them throwing in an additional year if you are a "Plus" member. (Sorry not sure what a "Plus" member entails.)

What do you guys think of Sam's extended warranty. I get a little confused by the underwriters and all of that. Just confused what the procedure would be. Would I be dealing with Sam's in 3-4 years or is it entirely some other company? I suppose at least Sam's would be there to assist...worse case scenario.

I've been a member at Sam's for a long time now. I couldn't find any info on what happens if you are no longer a member. I was also wondering what would happen with your warranty if you went with Costco and then cancelled your membership. Do you get that 2nd year? I assume after that it doesn't matter with squaretrade. I wonder what is the better warranty...squaretrade, or that Sam's extended warranty?

I really tried to find some info on Sam's cash back. I, at one point, had a small credit associated with my account at Sam's. I assume it is still associated with my account, just haven't used it in 5 years or so. Last weekend when I stopped in there, they said there were no current incentive programs (0%) with electronics. But the did mention if I used their credit card I would get an additional year of warranty and some cash back (like $40 or something). But I tried to find the info on that now, but could not find anything on their website.

Also I know I read it somewhere (legitimately from Discover), but isn't Discover Card offering $100 back to current card holders who purchase of an item over $1,000 by May 31, 2013? I know people are talking about it, myself included, but now I can't seem to find any legitimate link or information on that. Hmmm. Anybody know where I can find that info?

I also happen to read that Discover Card offers an additional year of warranty on top of the manufacturers warranty (I think that is a pretty standard credit card policy on most, but I think I saw someone post thinking Discover didn't do this).

What credit cards does each Costco and Sam's take?

I know Sam's takes a Discover Card, but I don't what else they accept.

Anyways, I think I am ready to go ahead and purchase the 65S64, just trying to find my best deal.

Right now I am leaning towards Sam's. But I need to find the info on that Discover card deal. And I need to find out if I should do an extended warranty. Also wonder if I am missing something on Costco.

Thanks.

BTW, FYI, I have yet to find tires lower priced than Sam's...like $100-$200 cheaper on all 4 than my local tire shops...if that helps anybody in their decision.
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Has anyone seen a 65" S64 in a southeast Michigan store? I just want the best deal I can get. I know someone with a Sams' Club membership so I think my best deal so far is $1400 + 6% tax + $50 delivery. Not sure if I'll get a warranty yet.

Edit: As far as I can tell/find out, Sam's Club does NOT carry these in stores whatsoever. Many local Costcos near me carry them however so I'll probably get a membership there for this purchase.
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Copied from my post on the S60 thread:

That brings me to how to find one for yourself at a Costco. I know several of you are looking. Here is the process I used to get one from the first (and likely only for some time) shipment in my area:

  • Call your nearest Costco and choose the option to reach the Administrative staff
  • Ask if they can check stock on a product you are looking for
  • Give them item #865640 (65" PS64)
  • If they do not have any ask them to check if they have any on order
  • Here is the key - If they say no ask them to check their Depot. Once they get into that screen they should be able to see all inventory available in the region and provide you with details on where it has gone, is headed or is on order for.
  • Call the nearest store that has or will be getting inventory - In my case that was one store in the whole state, 100 miles away (Admin staff again)
  • Confirm in-stock or on-order status with ETA
  • Get there and buy it! Don't forget your 5 year warranty (Should hold me until OLED 4K or 8K is affordable)


Hope that helps some of you. This is not a VT/ZT and probably won't satisfy the most critical videophiles among us, but it a beautiful display and a ridiculously good value.

MD

Thanks a ton for this. Made the phone process that much easier. I'll be picking up my set this evening. I just got a Sharp 650u and am pretty disappointed with the picture. Hoping going plasma will solve my OCD, as long as there is no buzzing... oh the buzzing. I had a Samsung D6500 a few years ago and HAD to sell it because of the buzzing but I hear Panny sets are much better in this regard.
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Has anyone seen a 65" S64 in a southeast Michigan store? I just want the best deal I can get. I know someone with a Sams' Club membership so I think my best deal so far is $1400 + 6% tax + $50 delivery. Not sure if I'll get a warranty yet.

Edit: As far as I can tell/find out, Sam's Club does NOT carry these in stores whatsoever. Many local Costcos near me carry them however so I'll probably get a membership there for this purchase.

My local Sam's had it in stock last weekend. I went and looked at it. Really liked it and I plan on purchasing it. Though I noticed their website said it was not at my local store. Guess it was wrong, because it was...unless they already sold out.
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Thanks a ton for this. Made the phone process that much easier. I'll be picking up my set this evening. I just got a Sharp 650u and am pretty disappointed with the picture. Hoping going plasma will solve my OCD, as long as there is no buzzing... oh the buzzing. I had a Samsung D6500 a few years ago and HAD to sell it because of the buzzing but I hear Panny sets are much better in this regard.
Great! I am glad I was able to help. Welcome to the S64 owners club, enjoy your new set!

As for buzzing, I cannot hear mine at all. Even up close and with a pure white screen I have to really try to hear it. I wonder if wall-mounting (I did) reduces that some vs. the stand just by dampening any vibration more?

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Does it not support 3D?
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Thanks a ton for this. Made the phone process that much easier. I'll be picking up my set this evening. I just got a Sharp 650u and am pretty disappointed with the picture. Hoping going plasma will solve my OCD, as long as there is no buzzing... oh the buzzing. I had a Samsung D6500 a few years ago and HAD to sell it because of the buzzing but I hear Panny sets are much better in this regard.
Great! I am glad I was able to help. Welcome to the S64 owners club, enjoy your new set!

As for buzzing, I cannot hear mine at all. Even up close and with a pure white screen I have to really try to hear it. I wonder if wall-mounting (I did) reduces that some vs. the stand just by dampening any vibration more?

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I can only hear mine buzzing when my head is behind the TV. Thankfully I watch it from 12 feet in the other direction, LOL.

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Does it not support 3D?

No 3D.
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Picked up my 65S64 + warranty and Costco and I'm loving it.

Thankfully the buzzing is a non-issue. I can hear it when it's dead silent, and even still I have to focus all my attention to TRY and hear it. Again, non-issue.

Only "problem" I've noticed so far is some line bleed on the famous line bleed test, the green trailer rating screen. Haven't seen it on anything else yet. I've been playing Call of Duty, watching some movies, and running slides in between all night to prepare it for calibration.

I'm pretty anal about screen imperfections but I think I'll get along just fine with this set. Viewing angles are perfect, no buzzing, perfect screen uniformity (no major rippling), contrast is awesome, the AR filter does wonders on reflections in my moderately bright room; it compares well to the Sharp. Motion is plasma perfect, input lag is basically non-existent, and the picture overall just looks so much more natural. The 5 year warranty is icing on the cake. After having that Sharp 650 it seems like the picture on an LCD is just imitating what a display should actually look like.

A big thanks for the heads up on this deal. $1585 after tax for an amazing set for 5 years guaranteed. I'm a happy clam.
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