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$1900 is a good price, and you could probably negotiate it down, but I would be a little suspicious as to why it was returned. There are valid reasons why someone would return a perfectly good TV of course. But it could also be a buzzer or have a display issue of some sort.
or the higher probability of buyer remorse( cant really afford or other financial issues) or someones wife "made" them return it

I would bet there is a much higher incidence of this than something being wrong with the TV


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Hey guys. Found a used 64" F8500 local here on craigslist. I was wondering about some recommendations as to what to check for when I go over there later today to check it out. Here is the scoop:
  • Guy works for Geek Squad. He got a best buy employee discount when he bought the TV in January of this year.
  • TV has about 740 hours of screen on time since Jan.
  • He purchased 5 year warranty that he says he can transfer to me.
  • Receipt confirms TV was brand new and not open box or floor model.

He was asking $1800 and I offered 1600, we agreed on $1700. What do you guys think? Tremendously low price, I know I know. Apparently he has two kids and his wife is due in August so they are trying to free up some cash.
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Bring a USB drive with some slides so you can check for burn-in, DSE, dead pixels, etc.
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I have a question and need your opinion- let me know if this is not the place to post...

I got my 60F8500 on the 10th from my 5/26 purchase during that Sears sale. I am in love with the set - the picture is gorgeous even though I'm running it a little dark during the break-in period.

The only thing I'm a little bothered by is the buzz. It's is definitely not as bad as the sammy 42" 720p plasma it has replaced - but it is annoying at times. I read elsewhere that this is something that "gets better" over time... but I'm not sure if I should contact Samsung or live with it.

The picture is gorgeous and I don't want to risk trading one problem for another.... what do you guys think? Oh, is there a place to check elapsed hours of usage?

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The picture is gorgeous and I don't want to risk trading one problem for another.... what do you guys think? Oh, is there a place to check elapsed hours of usage?
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Probably more answers in this forum Official Samsung PNxxF8500 Owners Thread (No Street Price Talk)

To check hours: Mute-7-3-7-Enter
Enter is the button in the middle of the 4 arrows.
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Bring a USB drive with some slides so you can check for burn-in, DSE, dead pixels, etc.
Is there a post/thread somewhere that details how to do this or is it just a matter of plugging it in and clicking through the images?
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Is there a post/thread somewhere that details how to do this or is it just a matter of plugging it in and clicking through the images?
The TV will prompt you when you plug in a USB stick for what you want to do with it. I would expect you can just click through the images. However, I haven't yet tried it.
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Probably more answers in this forum Official Samsung PNxxF8500 Owners Thread (No Street Price Talk)

To check hours: Mute-7-3-7-Enter
Enter is the button in the middle of the 4 arrows.
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The TV will prompt you when you plug in a USB stick for what you want to do with it. I would expect you can just click through the images. However, I haven't yet tried it.
I've done this.. D-Nice is a well known calibrator who put together some test slides, available here 2013 Panasonic Settings/Issues Thread I copied the folder of jpgs to a thumb drive, plugged it in and chose to play it as a slideshow - hope that helps.
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The TV will prompt you when you plug in a USB stick for what you want to do with it. I would expect you can just click through the images. However, I haven't yet tried it.
Yeah, I sort of knew the answer before I asked it but I was thinking about the panel prep procedure once owned when I posted it rather than checking a possible purchase unit. Brain was thinking one thing while the fingers were doing something else!

On that subject though, from what I've learned it's not really needed as long as you use common sense and avoid situations that could cause IR/burn-in and run the panel for 100+ hrs of so and then calibrate it. Having used a CRT for the last 14 yrs I think I have a pretty good handle on how to do that.
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I've done this.. D-Nice is a well known calibrator who put together some test slides, available here 2013 Panasonic Settings/Issues Thread I copied the folder of jpgs to a thumb drive, plugged it in and chose to play it as a slideshow - hope that helps.
Thanks!
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Hey guys. Found a used 64" F8500 local here on craigslist. I was wondering about some recommendations as to what to check for when I go over there later today to check it out. Here is the scoop:
  • Guy works for Geek Squad. He got a best buy employee discount when he bought the TV in January of this year.
  • TV has about 740 hours of screen on time since Jan.
  • He purchased 5 year warranty that he says he can transfer to me.
  • Receipt confirms TV was brand new and not open box or floor model.

He was asking $1800 and I offered 1600, we agreed on $1700. What do you guys think? Tremendously low price, I know I know. Apparently he has two kids and his wife is due in August so they are trying to free up some cash.
if all that you stated is true....thats a good deal

Based on what I think he probably paid new, the warranty was about $600 by itself

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Bring a USB drive with some slides so you can check for burn-in, DSE, dead pixels, etc.
Best Buy extended warranty( that he said the Tv has) covers all of that

They have the best extended coverage...and the most expensive

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if all that you stated is true....thats a good deal

Based on what I think he probably paid new, the warranty was about $600 by itself



Best Buy extended warranty( that he said the Tv has) covers all of that

They have the best extended coverage...and the most expensive

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Yeah it was an insanely good deal. I was highly skeptical going in to his house but he was the nicest guy. Just too many children and an unhappy wife lol. He gave me 5 pairs of 3-d glasses AND his wall mount. 5 yr warranty and a 64" all for $1700.

One problem though, base stand wont sit flush with tv! the right side will but the side i uploaded wont no matter how many times i try to reseat it. Any ideas?

Oh and I included receipt to give you guys an idea of what employees (and thus Best Buy itself) can get it for. 5% over cost at best buy.
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So, a 5 year warranty at Best Buy has a 70% markup, wow...
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Yeah it was an insanely good deal. I was highly skeptical going in to his house but he was the nicest guy. Just too many children and an unhappy wife lol. He gave me 5 pairs of 3-d glasses AND his wall mount. 5 yr warranty and a 64" all for $1700.

One problem though, base stand wont sit flush with tv! the right side will but the side i uploaded wont no matter how many times i try to reseat it. Any ideas?

Oh and I included receipt to give you guys an idea of what employees (and thus Best Buy itself) can get it for. 5% over cost at best buy.
yes..I paid $1799 for n open box at Conns in December
The salesman told me they were losing money at that price.....so based on what that price being 5% over I would say he was telling me the truth

Looks like you are missing the two rubber " nipples" that fit into the stand and the TV

I asume it was wall mounted and he had the stand off

If so...the two small runner pieces probably got misplaced

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So, a 5 year warranty at Best Buy has a 70% markup, wow...
yes...its at least double what a Square trade warranty is

Though Best Buy is the only warranty I have seen..factory or extended that will cover burn in on a plasma

AND...think of those people that bought the TV, at Best Buy, and with tax and the warranty they were at around $4K!!!

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yes..I paid $1799 for n open box at Conns in December
The salesman told me they were losing money at that price.....so based on what that price being 5% over I would say he was telling me the truth

Looks like you are missing the two rubber " nipples" that fit into the stand and the TV

I asume it was wall mounted and he had the stand off

If so...the two small runner pieces probably got misplaced



yes...its at least double what a Square trade warranty is

Though Best Buy is the only warranty I have seen..factory or extended that will cover burn in on a plasma

AND...think of those people that bought the TV, at Best Buy, and with tax and the warranty they were at around $4K!!!

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You wouldnt have a picture of what that looks like do you? Are they a part of the stand or the tv?
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You wouldnt have a picture of what that looks like do you? Are they a part of the stand or the tv?
no I dont have a picture
I would go take a picture of my TV ...but I dont they are really visible with the TV mounted on the stand

They are small rubber pieces..if you look into the edge of the stand you can see some small holes they fit into

They almost act like a small rubber washer between the stand and the TV

The holes are very near where the "bow" of the stand comes together

You might be able to call Samsung and get a pair of them....if you cant your TV to sit flush otherwise

Worst case scenario and they only come with the stand assembly...you can check Ebay as I notice there are always three or four F8500 stands on there

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no I dont have a picture
I would go take a picture of my TV ...but I dont they are really visible with the TV mounted on the stand

They are small rubber pieces..if you look into the edge of the stand you can see some small holes they fit into

They almost act like a small rubber washer between the stand and the TV

The holes are very near where the "bow" of the stand comes together

You might be able to call Samsung and get a pair of them....if you cant your TV to sit flush otherwise

Worst case scenario and they only come with the stand assembly...you can check Ebay as I notice there are always three or four F8500 stands on there

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I'd contact Samsung anyway and say that they (the rubber washers/nipples) were missing when you got the TV, and you'd like it handled under warranty as the TV won't sit correctly on the stand. If it's as simple as just sending you the rubber pieces they can do that for free, and if they need to replace your stand you should hopefully be able to get them to do that under warranty too.
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My guess is that the TV was hung from the all and the Nipples/washers got misplaced

not a big deal...and you could probably create something at home from the hardware store as well..if you really had to that would work


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Yeah it was an insanely good deal. I was highly skeptical going in to his house but he was the nicest guy. Just too many children and an unhappy wife lol. He gave me 5 pairs of 3-d glasses AND his wall mount. 5 yr warranty and a 64" all for $1700.

One problem though, base stand wont sit flush with tv! the right side will but the side i uploaded wont no matter how many times i try to reseat it. Any ideas?

Oh and I included receipt to give you guys an idea of what employees (and thus Best Buy itself) can get it for. 5% over cost at best buy.
I almost bought that set from him when he had it advertised for $2k - SCREAMING deal. I backed out the day of the sale (which I HATED doing) because we weren't going to wall mount it and my wife didn't want a giant 64" set. Is it possible to have NON-buyer's remorse???

Congrats regardless!
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I almost bought that set from him when he had it advertised for $2k - SCREAMING deal. I backed out the day of the sale (which I HATED doing) because we weren't going to wall mount it and my wife didn't want a giant 64" set. Is it possible to have NON-buyer's remorse???
Yes, it's called Regret.
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What is the standard markdown percentage for display items? Anyone have any experience with this?
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What is the standard markdown percentage for display items? Anyone have any experience with this?
Not sure, although personally it would take a very large discount to consider buying a display plasma tv that has been running in torch mode 10 hours a day 7 days a week. Even then I'd only consider it if it came with a large warranty as well to cover image retention as well as lifespan of the display. A display plasma in store, depending on how long it's been on display, could easily have the equivalent of 5-10 years life on it already if you consider most people only watch their TV maybe 3 hours a day per week and have it maybe 50% as bright as it is setup by default in store.
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Not sure, although personally it would take a very large discount to consider buying a display plasma tv that has been running in torch mode 10 hours a day 7 days a week. Even then I'd only consider it if it came with a large warranty as well to cover image retention as well as lifespan of the display. A display plasma in store, depending on how long it's been on display, could easily have the equivalent of 5-10 years life on it already if you consider most people only watch their TV maybe 3 hours a day per week and have it maybe 50% as bright as it is setup by default in store.

If the display is good condition

I think $2K will reel a buyer in all day long for a 64F8500

though I did pay less than that...:-)

what I would consider...
If you are saving $800-1000 and receiving the full manufacturers warranty from day one you are golden

excluding burn in...and that is even covered by the optional BB extended warranty

even if the Tv has been on a year...if you only watch 3 hours a day you have a few decades of viewing left. That is considering that the TV last half as long as the manufacturer 100K hours rating

In 4 years the TV will probably be dinosaur anyway and you will want something else

Save your money and call it what it is...a short term relationship

I have bought 4 flagship plasmas in the last 6 years

technology moves quickly and things become obsolete

I am so happy that I paid $1800 for a 64F8500...when others spent at least $1200 more

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Problem with the base stand resolved. OK so we have 3 elements at play here:

1. TV itself
2. Curved base stand
3. Grey brackets that connect the two together

So I got the TV horizontal and with a flashlight carefully observed what happens when I slot the base into the TV via the Grey brackets. I noticed that the TV itself had a little 5mm black plastic piece that fit into a tiny slot on the Grey metal piece. One end of the TV this black piece was intact. The other side looked smashed in, so I probably missed the target when setting it up and semi flattened that bit.

I shaved that part off with a Knife and TV sits perfectly flush now
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If the display is good condition

I think $2K will reel a buyer in all day long for a 64F8500

though I did pay less than that...:-)

what I would consider...
If you are saving $800-1000 and receiving the full manufacturers warranty from day one you are golden

excluding burn in...and that is even covered by the optional BB extended warranty

even if the Tv has been on a year...if you only watch 3 hours a day you have a few decades of viewing left. That is considering that the TV last half as long as the manufacturer 100K hours rating

In 4 years the TV will probably be dinosaur anyway and you will want something else

Save your money and call it what it is...a short term relationship

I have bought 4 flagship plasmas in the last 6 years

technology moves quickly and things become obsolete

I am so happy that I paid $1800 for a 64F8500...when others spent at least $1200 more

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I would concur that $1,800 is a phenomenal deal for the F8500 that would probably have me consider getting a display unit. I don't upgrade my equipment as often as you do, so for me I'd plan on using it for at least the next 7-10 yrs, so for me I'd probably get the extended warranty too in order to ensure that I didn't start having issues with the display 5 yrs down the road.


I ended up ordering mine from Best Buy to get 10% back in rewards, and have 45 days if the price drops anywhere since buying the TV got me to elite plus status (45 day return window). I'm hoping like last year that there will be a sale on the 64" on Amazon or something to kick off the NFL season. If that happens, I'll get BB to price match. I've heard from a lot of people that the supply on the 64" may be starting to dwindle, and didn't want to run the risk of it selling out. Looking at other Samsung Plasma TV's, the 64" are always the ones that sell out way before the 51" or 60" (would assume those are more popular sizes than the 64" so the 64" probably has less supply to start with).


In the end I figured since I plan on having it for close to 10 years (figure it will be that long before 4k OLED is evolved enough to work out the kinks and the prices to come down to a reasonable level), that for me it was worth buying new. If I'd only keep it for 4-5 yrs tops, then I'd definitely get a display unit as it will be more than fine for that period of time (especially with comfort of extended warranty).
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So last month in mid July I mentioned I was purchasing a Samsung PN64F8500 from Nice Electronics. Understandably I received mixed feedback from the forum members since Nice Electronics is a wholesaler like East Coast TV's and Abe's of Maine. The biggest difference was I got substantially better customer service before and after the sale with Nice Electronics and everything they promised was delivered including the White Glove Delivery that went very well. Well I've had my TV for over a week now and it's absolutely stunning. It had a June 2014 build date and not a hint of any issues with it. The PQ is amazing with no screen uniformity issues. I love the features of the TV and offers so much more than my Panny GT50 which I still have. Here are some pics of my new baby. It came with 2 remotes. One SMART remote and one standard remote. There's not much difference in operation between the two remotes. One has the trackpad with special features and the other has the keypad. Both operate the SMART functions. It also came with 4 pairs of 3G glasses with batteries. I have not seen one hint of crosstalk which is something I can't say with my Panny. So far not a hint of IR and I watch the NFL network daily which always leaves IR on my Panny GT50. I have pics of Blu rays of Titantic, Puss n Boots, Avatar, the Disney WOW disc and my PS4. I also picked up a beautiful TV stand manufactured by BDI. Bought it from Best Buy Magnolia. Pricey but built extremely well. All in all I'm very satisfied with this set and I got a great deal from Nice Electronics.
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HLdan, so what price did you get the tv for? Was it the $2540 they quoted you?
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So last month in mid July I mentioned I was purchasing a Samsung PN64F8500 from Nice Electronics. Understandably I received mixed feedback from the forum members since Nice Electronics is a wholesaler like East Coast TV's and Abe's of Maine. The biggest difference was I got substantially better customer service before and after the sale with Nice Electronics and everything they promised was delivered including the White Glove Delivery that went very well. Well I've had my TV for over a week now and it's absolutely stunning. It had a June 2014 build date and not a hint of any issues with it. The PQ is amazing with no screen uniformity issues. I love the features of the TV and offers so much more than my Panny GT50 which I still have. Here are some pics of my new baby. It came with 2 remotes. One SMART remote and one standard remote. There's not much difference in operation between the two remotes. One has the trackpad with special features and the other has the keypad. Both operate the SMART functions. It also came with 4 pairs of 3G glasses with batteries. I have not seen one hint of crosstalk which is something I can't say with my Panny. So far not a hint of IR and I watch the NFL network daily which always leaves IR on my Panny GT50. I have pics of Blu rays of Titantic, Puss n Boots, Avatar, the Disney WOW disc and my PS4. I also picked up a beautiful TV stand manufactured by BDI. Bought it from Best Buy Magnolia. Pricey but built extremely well. All in all I'm very satisfied with this set and I got a great deal from Nice Electronics.
Glad to hear you're so happy with your purchase! Looks terrific in your setup. It was inspirational looking at your pics.

I'm really happy with my 60F8500. Apart from a slight buzz, it is a fantastic image and everything I expected it to be.
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HLdan, so what price did you get the tv for? Was it the $2540 they quoted you?
Yes, $2540 out the door including White Glove delivery that also went very well. They fully checked out the TV for me. The delivery guys did not act in a rush at all. They even hung around for a few minutes asking me about the set. They really like it and wanted to buy one.
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