I have a friend that works for a retailer that can get me the 65" zt60 for $3999.00, I can also get a real good deal on the Sammy 64" F8500 for $2600. Don't know if I can justify a $1400 premium for the ZT. I already have a 65" Vt50 and love it and a 60" F8500. The Panny IMO looks better than the Sammy. Whether the Panny is $1400 better is the question. I live near the border, but it is still a PIA to pick up a TV and then take the risk of no warranty.