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I am looking for a 110" version of the Elite eZframe screen. I found a few places selling the 110" Sable screen and I'm wondering what the difference is...

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I am looking for a 110" version of the Elite eZframe screen. I found a few places selling the 110" Sable screen and I'm wondering what the difference is...

Thanks!

Take a look at the following links. They have some details... I am also looking for a 120" screen for my Epson HC8100 and need to decide between ezframe and Sableframe. The fabric is exactly the same in both (Cinewhite). Ezframe has better frame and more fabric choices. But, I could not find better pictures or more details on how the Sableframe's frame looks like (other than what's shown in the links below).

http://www.elitescreens.com/images/p...comparison.pdf
http://www.elitescreens.com/index.ph...mid=20&lang=en

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Thanks for the links. So it seems that the only difference is in the frame itself. I think I will go with the SableFrame since I want the 1.1 gain CineWhite material.

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Yeah, I am leaning towards the same. The main difference seems to be the tickness of the velvet and the shape of the frame. I don't think I care much for the shape (crown molding vs the other), but I was hoping for better pictures to see difference in the velvet.

May be you can post some pictures once you get your sableframe. I am projecting on to 120" screen of block out material hanging on my wal.

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Here is a reply I got from Elite Customer Service:

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Thank you for your interest in Elite Screens!

Yes you are correct, the only difference would be the frame.

We use CineWhite for our EZFrame Series and for our Sable Series.

We chose to offer the Sable Series as an entry level fixed frame to our customers.
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I will definitely go with a Sable since the 110" Sable is more easily found than the 110" eZframe.

I'll post pics when I get it!

Thanks!
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FYI I have a cinema235 Elite Screen which I'm assuming it is similar to the Ezframe and it is not cover in velvet. It is black anodized aluminum and then sprayed with a velvet or suede like material. Just wanted to share that info. It does work great but I think that the material could come off easily while handling the frame.

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I called Elite screens today and spoke to their sales department at 877-511-1211 and asked the difference between the SableFrame and EZFrame. I was told that the only difference is the EZFrame is flat while the SableFrame is rounded. I also aske if the velvet material on both frame is the same and the answer was, yes both frames use the exact same velvet material. So it comes down to whether or not you care about the velvet part of the screen being flat or rounded.

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I called Elite screens today and spoke to their sales department at 877-511-1211 and asked the difference between the SableFrame and EZFrame. I was told that the only difference is the EZFrame is flat while the SableFrame is rounded. I also aske if the velvet material on both frame is the same and the answer was, yes both frames use the exact same velvet material. So it comes down to whether or not you care about the velvet part of the screen being flat or rounded.

Hmm, thats wierd! Their website clearly states "Thicker coated velvet on ezFrame and PrimeVision frame". So, I am not sure I would trust the service rep completely.
http://www.elitescreens.com/images/p...comparison.pdf

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Great! Thank you for all the information!
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Achilles,

Did you end up going with the Sableframe?
I ordered mine through BHphotovideo and it was delivered yesterday. I opened the box, everything looks great, came in without any damage (excellent packing from Elite). I will put it together this weekend.

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Achilles,

Did you end up going with the Sableframe?
I ordered mine through BHphotovideo and it was delivered yesterday. I opened the box, everything looks great, came in without any damage (excellent packing from Elite). I will put it together this weekend.

-Sunil

I'm looking at ordering a SablefFame next week, so I'm very interested in your impressions. Please post back and let us know what you think of it.

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Definitely! I having someone come over on Saturday to get the HDMI and surround wiring done in the theater room. I'll post some pictures and my opinions on the frame once everything is setup properly.

Currently I am projecting my Epson 8100 on to a blackout curtain (close to 105" diagonal) and the picture looks great. I am hoping that Sableframe would be noticiably better.

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I'm in a similar situation I have a homemade framed screen that looks really good(some waves starting after 2 years). I'd like to go bigger and the cost of building a new screen with screen material, wood, velvet etc... will run around $200. For 313.00(shipping included) I could get a 110" SableFrame and not worry about waves occurring and save myself a lot of work too.

I'd appreciate you offering to post pics (thanks) and look forward to your comments.

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Achilles,

Did you end up going with the Sableframe?
I ordered mine through BHphotovideo and it was delivered yesterday. I opened the box, everything looks great, came in without any damage (excellent packing from Elite). I will put it together this weekend.

-Sunil

I am still preparing the room so I haven't ordered the screen yet. I will be ordering it in two weeks. I'll post my impressions to this thread as soon as I get it.

Thanks!!
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Ok, I finally assembled the screen and put it up on the wall. I am very happy with the quality of the frame and the screen. Assembly took about an hour. Its not a complex assembly, but the directions that came with the screen are so so at the best.

As promised here are some pictues... pardon the messy room.

My previous make shift screen with blackout curtain and duct tape


Screen assembled


Screen on the wall, lights on and with flash



No flash and no lights


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sunilpg, thanks for all the pics. IMO the screen looks great. I can't see any waves and the velvet border looks really nice. What's your impression from seeing it in person?

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There are absolutely no waves. Its tight like a drum. The velvet border is petty decent, not the top quality. Velver border looks great on the wall and does a great job of not reflecting any spillage of light. Over all, I am very happy with the screen.

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Thanks Sunil, was the velvet the kind that could come off while handling the frame?

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Its a spray-on variety. But, I don't think it would come off that easily. I had to grip it hard at times while fixing the frame and it handled the pressure fie.

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Thanks, tight as a drum and velvet stays on. Looks like I'll be ordering a SableFrame soon.

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ordered a 110" from b&h yesterday nice price
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/

Brick and morter (with on-line sales) company in NY. Good company, never had a problem with them, ordered numerous times from.
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Can anyone post some better close ups of the Sable frames? I'd like to get a better idea about the fit/finish quality.
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Hi Sunil,

Could you elaborate on any differences in quality compared to the black out cloth material and the Elite Sableframe? I currently have a DIY 110" screen using black out material from the local fabric store (with 1x4" fixed frame wrapped in black velvet border). I would love to know if the elite cinewhite material is a significant improvement.

I am thinking about upgrading from epson's 1080UB to the 8500UB. I as at a local magnolia hi-fi and saw the 8500UB in action. I thought it was quite a step up in overall quality but I'm not sure how much is attributed to the screen. I believe they had a 100" tensioned elite screen.

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This is just my opinion with very little experience in screens. I could definitely see the difference between the blackout screen and the cinewhite material, but I don't think it is significant. My decision was very easy as I didn't have a frame with velvet border (which make a huge difference in the look and feel of my room to start with). So, if you already have a frame with velvet border, its very tough to justify spending 3-4 hundred more for the elite frame.

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I'm looking at a few of the fixed frames, and I have a question: do the Elite Sable and Ezframes have continuous upper and lower rails, or are they two part rails with a join? If they're 2 part, are you satisfied with that the frame is straight and square?
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