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yuweimichael this product sounds interesting. Do you think the company will be showing at Cedia?
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WOW this screen looks like the Holy Grail of Screens if it's
anything like the video's.

Will this screen be available as an Electric sreen also and what will be the largest size ?

Will the larger sizes have a seam or just one piece material ?

Have prices/cost been determine as of yet ?

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Michael, I didn't see this anywhere, but I was wondering if this was retro or angular reflective. Im probably gonna wait until this comes out but will go ahead and mount my projector.
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And another "by the way" question -- How will it do with 3D images?
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yuweimichael, yuweimichael, yuweimichael >>> Not that i want to keep "harping" on the same subject, but we have all been waiting very patiently for over seven months to get some concrete information on this screen and now it's time for you to get some samples mailed to interested parties for reviews/comparisons/tests.
I started this thread and would appreciate very much getting a small sample of the microlite screen so that i could compare it side by side with samples of the Vutec Silverstar and the Da-Lite High Power and attach all three to the surface of my high-gain screen, which would serve as an extra comparison material; My hard-mounted silver screen was specified as having a gain of 10 when i purchased it years ago.
I would gladly take pictures of all materials side by side under different conditions and post the pictures here on this thread, together with my impressions.
You would have nothing to lose by someone posting unbiased opinions of your screen material after comparison testing and, if it turns out to be as good as shown by pictures posted at AVS and at youtube, you would have A LOT to gain in sales and customer satisfaction + respect.
Thanks >>> Marcos
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Yuwemichael -- Any update of any kind on this? You were good for a couple of days providing some info and are now in the witness protection program again...
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I'm not surprised they would not send out samples yet. If the product is not finalized how could they let test runs out into the wild, to be tested upon and generalizations made about their future product, which is stol subject to change?

Since the timescale for completing development is probably a year, it seems reasonable to get an update every month or so. But after a few days I doubt much can change of import.
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Michael, based on the youtube videos..... just tell me how much and I will be happy to purchase one of these... I was very close on spending silver money but this product seems like a better choice for me. I am in So. Cal. and would be thrilled to be one of the first owners or at least.....test subjects!

Keep us posted!
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I have a feeling this isn't going to be a cheap screen.

My woman is not going to like me much next year. I must start sucking up early If this does what it's claiming too, my High Power will go up for sale quickly.
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I got a price out of him a few weeks ago. Im not going to give an exact amount bc thats against the rules (no idea why)....but it will be a little more expensive than the Silverstar. 10-15% so you can do the math. Given that, if it does everything it says it does then that is a more than fair price. I just hope it lives up to the hype because it could be next year before it is released, and I got my projector last november.

Still have 2 questions-

1. Is this retro or angular reflective? Need to know so i can mount my projector.

2. He says the roll material will be available first......does this mean I am responsible for my own frame?
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Per request,

I have a sample screen hanging in my room and want to show you guys where we are now. Here is the update for the screen:

1. It will be another update screen material coming this July.
2. Fixed frame screen will be size limited to 96" 16:9 format. No more than
96" 16:9 currently.
3. Screen Resolution will be highest ever seem in the projection screen m
market.
4. It is retro-reflective for 3.0 gain effects. You can do any other setup but
you will not get 3.0 gain.
5. 180 degree horizontal viewing angle for 3.0 Gain material even in high
ambient light environment.
6. Cost-friendly product !
7. Hopefully Available for pre-order from online in August.
8. Show room will be available to see in person in August in Ontario,
California. Invitation will be post online for more info later July.
9. Package will be just like others. No crate. Flex material.

Here is video link for sample screen demo comparison with Matt white screen.



Please let me know what's your con and pros ^^

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[quote=yuweimichael

1. It will be another update screen material coming this July.
2. Fixed frame screen will be size limited to 96" 16:9 format. No more than
96" 16:9 currently.
3. Screen Resolution will be highest ever seem in the projection screen m
market.
4. It is retro-reflective for 3.0 gain effects. You can do any other setup but
you will not get 3.0 gain.
5. 180 degree horizontal viewing angle for 3.0 Gain material even in high
ambient light environment.
6. Cost-friendly product !
7. Hopefully Available for pre-order from online in August.
8. Show room will be available to see in person in August in Ontario,
California. Invitation will be post online for more info later July.
9. Package will be just like others. No crate. Flex material.

Michael Chien[/QUOTE]
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1. I imagine an improved screen material with better viewing angle ?
2. Currently, size limited to 96"; Is that diagonally or horizontally ?
3. ??
4. By retro-reflective you mean that for this screen to achieve its stated performance the projector must be located at eye level facing the middle of the screen area. If pj is mounted facing bottom or top of screen (angular reflective) all benefits of this screen will be compromised, correct ?
5. As long as the projector is mounted as described above...
6. As compared to current high gain screens such as Da-Lite High Power and Vutec Silverstar ?
7. Hopefully ? One year after initial appearance at trade show !
8. For the vast majority of us who cannot travel to Ontario, CA to check on a screen material, samples will be available for interested customers, correct ?
9. No huge crates for shipping, yeah ! Will the screen package come with and without a disassembled hard frame for those of us who might want it either way ? If shipped with hard frame, will there be leg mounts available for customers who cannot mount screen to wall ?
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Free screens for us! Lol
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Cost-friendly product...
how friendly ?
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1. I imagine an improved screen material with better viewing angle ?
2. Currently, size limited to 96"; Is that diagonally or horizontally ?
3. ??
4. By retro-reflective you mean that for this screen to achieve its stated performance the projector must be located at eye level facing the middle of the screen area. If pj is mounted facing bottom or top of screen (angular reflective) all benefits of this screen will be compromised, correct ?
5. As long as the projector is mounted as described above...
6. As compared to current high gain screens such as Da-Lite High Power and Vutec Silverstar ?
7. Hopefully ? One year after initial appearance at trade show !
8. For the vast majority of us who cannot travel to Ontario, CA to check on a screen material, samples will be available for interested customers, correct ?
9. No huge crates for shipping, yeah ! Will the screen package come with and without a disassembled hard frame for those of us who might want it either way ? If shipped with hard frame, will there be leg mounts available for customers who cannot mount screen to wall ?
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Thanks....

1. I imagine an improved screen material with better viewing angle ? Yes. It will have best viewing angle for horizontal and vertical on hte market
2. Currently, size limited to 96"; Is that diagonally or horizontally ?Diagonally
3. ?? Microlitescreen has smallest pitch and able to create higher image resolution to get more detail and clear view if you see them side by side with other projection screen.
4. By retro-reflective you mean that for this screen to achieve its stated performance the projector must be located at eye level facing the middle of the screen area. If pj is mounted facing bottom or top of screen (angular reflective) all benefits of this screen will be compromised, correct ? No. The only benefit will not achieve by using angular reflective is the gain. It really depends on what kind of application you use. Some people if they dont want high gain, then they can choose their setup. Other features of screen will still be there even with angular reflective.
5. As long as the projector is mounted as described above...
6. As compared to current high gain screens such as Da-Lite High Power and Vutec Silverstar ? We have different features such as ambient light rejection and 180 degree viewing angle are our features.
7. Hopefully ? One year after initial appearance at trade show ! Microlitescreen is consist of 11 layers. Still thinest on the market.
8. For the vast majority of us who cannot travel to Ontario, CA to check on a screen material, samples will be available for interested customers, correct ? Yes, We will let you order samples from our web site in August.
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Hi yuweimichael, thanks for the update. I've a few more questions.

Is the 96" max size something that may change in the future? I'm guessing something to do with the manurfacturing process currently limits things.

Are you familar with the sheen seen on Firehawk and similar screens during bright scenes? (try saying that sentance when you're drunk ) If so, Does this material do the same?
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5. 180 degree horizontal viewing angle for 3.0 Gain material even in high
ambient light environment.

This implies that the horizontal and vertical gain curves are different; can you supply the current ones?

My current screen is 128" wide and I'm not interested in going smaller.

Might your screens be this big in the future?

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Hi yuweimichael, thanks for the update. I've a few more questions.

Is the 96" max size something that may change in the future? I'm guessing something to do with the manurfacturing process currently limits things.

Are you familar with the sheen seen on Firehawk and similar screens during bright scenes? (try saying that sentance when you're drunk ) If so, Does this material do the same?

I am not familiar with sheen seen on Firehawk. Please explain. Thank you

Yes size is limited to 96" 16:9 diagonal now. If the product has good response, we will go further size in the future.
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Hi,

We have only 96" 16:9 now. We will see how it goes and then to determine if we want to go bigger. Vertical viewing angle will be enough for most of application. Thanks
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Michael, why only 96" diagonal? most of us in the HT world are doing 106" and above.... personally I need a 120" 16:9.... going down to a 96" screen would be difficult for me even with all the features you speak of.... If I may say that limiting the screen to such a "relative" small size will hurt your buissness.... FOR ALL OF US INTERESTED IN THIS SCREEN.... LET'S GIVE MICHAEL A HAND AND VOICE THE SIZE "YOU" WOULD BE MOST LIKELY TO PURCHASE.... Please accept our assistance in making a sound buissness decision.... I firmly believe most people on the forum will agree with me...especially those looking for 2:35 cinemascope applications..... can you imagine using the panny AE4000 on this type of screen and not be able to do 135" cinemascope?......
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It's a shame it will be limited to 96"...

I currently have a 133" screen and a 73" Mits TV for regular viewing and it doesn't make sense to buy/spend $ on a 96" screen .

Looks like a great screen but I will have to pass on it..just not big enough and I'm not going to go smaller .


A 96" screen defeats the whole idea of what a home theater is for most of us.We
can buy a Mits 93" TV for crying outloud.



Not a wise business decision ..sorry but you just lost a large chunk of customers
by not offering larger screens.


This company needs to revaluate their business model.



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It's a shame it will be limited to 96"...

I currently have a 133" screen and a 73" Mits TV for regular viewing and it doesn't make sense to buy/spend $ on a 96" screen .

Looks like a great screen but I will have to pass on it..just not big enough and I'm not going to go smaller .


A 96" screen defeats the whole idea of what a home theater is for most of us.We
can buy a Mits 93" TV for crying outloud.



Not a wise business decision ..sorry but you just lost a large chunk of customers
by not offering larger screens.


This company needs to revaluate their business model.



Thanks

Absolutely agree. 96" diagonal in a 16 X 9 format is a very market-limiting size. I see the microlite as a good solution for all of those thousands of moderate lumen JVC's/etc. that are out there, but if the screen is limited to that small size I'm out too -- I need a 2.35 at least 120" wide (not diagonal). Oh well, back to Stewart!
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Agreed - i'd like a 120" 16:9. However, i'd still be interested in a 96" screen to go behind my current if it had the benefits of a Firehawk without the sheen or hotspot.
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Yes I hope this can be larger and yes we can make it larger. It's new product and we would like to see how's feedbacks from customer. If it's good, we can make larger and it is in our business plan already. For this year, this is what we get so far.
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Unfortunately I'm buying a screen this year. Can't wait for you...
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I'd be interested in a 120" 16:9. I agree with others - 96" is too small for projection.

Regardless, I'm very interested to hear user feedback once released.
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Just to give you an idea.....most of the screens i sell are easily 106" and bigger. Very rarely do i do anything less than 100" in diagonal.

Problem with this is that it's gearing towards multipurpose rooms or rooms with a ton of ambient light, those types of rooms are big. In my opinion, a little too big for that size screen.

I hope that they consider revisiting their business plan and really think about starting off strong with big sizes.

Even low cost / low grade ambient light resistant screens work ok at that size, it's the bigger sizes where the better manufacturers really shine!

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110" min, 120" more likely

I had a 96" once - never again.

I actually have a good 120" piece of m2500 sitting in the house that I prefer over my existing screen...but it was torn and I can only get a max 98" out of it once I cut the tear out. So, I bought a new screen instead. I just can't go back to a small screen.

yes 96" is small

Most of the screens I use and setup for our classrooms are certainly bigger then 106" as well. I might get away with a 96" in a small conference room.
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WTF. I wait a year for this screen only to find out 96 inches is the biggest screen size? This is getting ridiculous. If the screen is as good as advertised, and has a good price as advertised, then you have a gamechanger.

No need for a test market. Send a 96 incher to a few professional reviewers and give them a month to review it. No ones gonna buy a 96 inch screen unless you guys offer a trade in program where u pay the difference to get a bigger one (110+) later.

you guys need a new marketing person.
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HELLO GUYS,
I am appreciated all your thoughts and the size matter. Yes we know its too small but it is so far we can go for now. Thank you so much for all your support.
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