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Hello Elix,

I used tripod. I used samsung NX1. i did't shoot raw b/c it was a quick shoot in my house this morning.

Yes i used VE350. It's amazing projector and very minimum fan noise. I love it.
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here are some close image shots for 3.0 gain material.
What size of screen was that?

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What size of screen was that?

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I was using a 90" 16:9.
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"...we want to everyone will able to bring them home."
Sorry, Michael, but over $1,000 price is a lot of money for most people and will not result in high volume sales.
Also, by not posting prices on your web site, that makes people suspicious that your prices are very high. And please stop referring to depth of field, as has been pointed out before, that is not an attribute of projection screens.
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I was using a 90" 16:9.
I would be interested in seeing a sample of this screen and seeing if this is something we would be interested in selling.

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I would be interested in seeing a sample of this screen and seeing if this is something we would be interested in selling.
Check out Post #171 - I have not heard anything since this post. I suspect we won't be getting any screen samples...

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Check out Post #171 - I have not heard anything since this post. I suspect we won't be getting any screen samples...

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They do provide samples... 80" and up
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I would be interested in seeing a sample of this screen and seeing if this is something we would be interested in selling.
We will contact shortly thanks
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Hi,

Are these screens angular reflective or retroreflective? What is your recommendation for mounting the projector? Can the projector be mounted above the screen (if so, how much above) ?


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Are these screens angular reflective or retroreflective? What is your recommendation for mounting the projector? Can the projector be mounted above the screen (if so, how much above) ?


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I will quote what Michael has told me (I don't believe it to be a secret of any kind):
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Installation requirement: projector must be install with 16" above the center of projection screen. Projector must be 12 feet away. Audience's eye must be the center of screen.
From this I can conclude that screen is angular-reflective. It's only natural considering one of the layers is metallic film.
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I will quote what Michael has told me (I don't believe it to be a secret of any kind):
From this I can conclude that screen is angular-reflective. It's only natural considering one of the layers is metallic film.
I spoke with Michael on the phone yesterday, and he mentioned that the screen is angular-reflective and that the projector needs to be at the top of the screen or above it.

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Just to let others know what is going on. I have been contacted and hopefully have something coming my way.

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Just to let others know what is going on. I have been contacted and hopefully have something coming my way.
Right on! Hopefully you're getting both the 2 and 3 gain samples. This is the last screen I'm waiting on. Keep me (us) updated!
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Anyone attending Infocomm in Florida? Microlite will be there next week if someone wants to go check out their screens.

Infocomm: http://av-iq.infocommshow.org/avcat/...ection-screens

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Just to let others know what is going on. I have been contacted and hopefully have something coming my way.
Hi Mike, any luck with the screen and your first impressions / evaluations ?
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Are these screens angular reflective or retroreflective? What is your recommendation for mounting the projector? Can the projector be mounted above the screen (if so, how much above) ?


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That is such an interesting question Dave, I looked further into the two different types of reflective technologies and it is quite interesting. As far as angular reflective screens are concerned like the Microlite and Black Diamond, are they designed to provide optimum performance with ceiling mounted projectors ?
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I went to see their showroom and have to say this - I finally found my screen!
For the past several years, I've searched and contemplated which screen to own. I knew what I wanted but just couldn't find it. With white walls and little ambient lighting in my room, I wanted some sort of combination or mix of gray material, high gain in nature, similar to an old Optoma graywolf screen I used before, but without the visible sheen, sparkles, and grainy texture. I've seen plenty of screens - from Firehawk to Black Diamond to DNP; as a matter of fact, I almost settled with a DNP purchase recently.

A couple of months back, I bought this nice cool toy, called LG PF1500. It's portable, feature-rich, and best part of all, it's LED and inexpensive. I couldn't complain much, except for that below average native CR, similar to that of yesteryear dlp/lcd projectors. Although it's really much more than that, and I thought this would make a nice placeholder for TV/movie streaming while I wait for that next big purchase - a 4K, high lumen and CR one...well, you got the picture

I know this pj would match well with a gray screen. I visited the DNP showroom a month ago and was determined to buy their 08-85 screen. I was 90% convinced by this, even if it were to cost me more than 2.5 times the price of what I paid for with the LG. I figured anyway that it'll go for the long term...plus, it works for 4k-images as well.
Just as I was about to pull the trigger for that screen, I stumbled by Micro-lite and found out later that it was nearby my place. I called Michael, who I found extremely pleasant and accommodating, and spent roughly an hour to see his products.

He had two samples displayed on the wall - a 3.0 gain 65% ambient light-rejecting screen and 85% one (forgot the gain). He says the former is suited for hometheater, while the latter more towards commercial use. While we spent more time with the 65% version, I couldn't help but stare at the other screen coz it looked like plasma on a wall, even with fluorescent lights on.
With the 65% version, the one major attribute that captured my attention was how colors were rendered beautifully on this screen. There was such clarity and color vibrancy in those images especially when lights were turned off. Brightness was quite uniform across the area and there were no hints of sheens and sparkles. Side to side viewing didn't seem to exhibit any light drop off as well. When asked if I could use my LG on the 110" screen, I was stunned by the overall result which left me that plasma impression. Eh, all of a sudden my pj looked like twice and a half the price I paid for, it turned out. It was that impressive. In fact, the DNP seemed so dull-looking now, by comparison, from visual memory. Although, I think both didn't exemplify the kind of bluish tint that I got so used to seeing in most gray screens, they both deserve another look.

Anyway, it's my initial impression but I anticipate someone to give a more thorough and in-depth review soon. Once I attempt another visit, I hope to spend more time and have a much closer look into their texture, viewing angle, placement, and whatnot. But for now, I believe Michael has a gem right here that's worth a look.

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That is such an interesting question Dave, I looked further into the two different types of reflective technologies and it is quite interesting. As far as angular reflective screens are concerned like the Microlite and Black Diamond, are they designed to provide optimum performance with ceiling mounted projectors ?
What actually struck me was how the micro-lite screens were angular in nature; yet, appear to have certain intrinsic retro-reflective properties in it - sort of a hybrid type, where it takes the best of both worlds. Wide viewing angle, great uniformity, plasma look, color accuracy were the highlights. For optimal result, he says the pj has to be mounted at, or within, the level of its top frame.
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I went to see their showroom and have to say this - I finally found my screen!
For the past several years, I've searched and contemplated which screen to own. I knew what I wanted but just couldn't find it. With white walls and little ambient lighting in my room, I wanted some sort of combination or mix of gray material, high gain in nature, similar to an old Optoma graywolf screen I used before, but without the visible sheen, sparkles, and grainy texture. I've seen plenty of screens - from Firehawk to Black Diamond to DNP; as a matter of fact, I almost settled with a DNP purchase recently.

A couple of months back, I bought this nice cool toy, called LG PF1500. It's portable, feature-rich, and best part of all, it's LED and inexpensive. I couldn't complain much, except for that below average native CR, similar to that of yesteryear dlp/lcd projectors. Although it's really much more than that, and I thought this would make a nice placeholder for TV/movie streaming while I wait for that next big purchase - a 4K, high lumen and CR one...well, you got the picture

I know this pj would match well with a gray screen. I visited the DNP showroom a month ago and was determined to buy their 08-85 screen. I was 90% convinced by this, even if it were to cost me more than 2.5 times the price of what I paid for with the LG. I figured anyway that it'll go for the long term...plus, it works for 4k-images as well.
Just as I was about to pull the trigger for that screen, I stumbled by Micro-lite and found out later that it was nearby my place. I called Michael, who I found extremely pleasant and accommodating, and spent roughly an hour to see his products.

He had two samples displayed on the wall - a 3.0 gain 65% ambient light-rejecting screen and 85% one (forgot the gain). He says the former is suited for hometheater, while the latter more towards commercial use. While we spent more time with the 65% version, I couldn't help but stare at the other screen coz it looked like plasma on a wall, even with fluorescent lights on.
With the 65% version, the one major attribute that captured my attention was how colors were rendered beautifully on this screen. There was such clarity and color vibrancy in those images especially when lights were turned off. Brightness was quite uniform across the area and there were no hints of sheens and sparkles. Side to side viewing didn't seem to exhibit any light drop off as well. When asked if I could use my LG on the 110" screen, I was stunned by the overall result which left me that plasma impression. Eh, all of a sudden my pj looked like twice and a half the price I paid for, it turned out. It was that impressive. In fact, the DNP seemed so dull-looking now, by comparison, from visual memory. Although, I think both didn't exemplify the kind of bluish tint that I got so used to seeing in most gray screens, they both deserve another look.

Anyway, it's my initial impression but I anticipate someone to give a more thorough and in-depth review soon. Once I attempt another visit, I hope to spend more time and have a much closer look into their texture, viewing angle, placement, and whatnot. But for now, I believe Michael has a gem right here that's worth a look.
Have you seen the DNP 23-23? I'm curious to see how Microlite compares. Microlite sounds very promising.

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Have you seen the DNP 23-23? I'm curious to see how Microlite compares. Microlite sounds very promising.
Yes it was showcased as well, together with the 08-85 and another higher gain one, at their DNP showroom. But I didn't pay much attention to it. I'll look for that sample I have and bring with me next time I visit Microlite. Thanks for the reminder, that would be a good one to compare with.
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Yes it was showcased as well, together with the 08-85 and another higher gain one, at their DNP showroom. But I didn't pay much attention to it. I'll look for that sample I have and bring with me next time I visit Microlite. Thanks for the reminder, that would be a good one to compare with.
That is very interesting Ximori, please do share with us if you've had any other afterthoughts. In your opinion, how does the BD1.4 compare to Microlite in terms of overall performance in typical lit living room environments ?
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Hi Mike, any luck with the screen and your first impressions / evaluations ?
Not yet. I have started, but had company in the house for a few days and I have to go out of town for a few days this week. I want to compare it to other screens I have and to other samples I have.

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Not yet. I have started, but had company in the house for a few days and I have to go out of town for a few days this week. I want to compare it to other screens I have and to other samples I have.
Hi Mike, I guess we're all looking forward to your review and comparison. Any initial thoughts ?
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Hi Mike, I guess we're all looking forward to your review and comparison. Any initial thoughts ?
And is it the ~2 gain or ~3 gain screen? It sounds like they are offering two different gains.
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That is very interesting Ximori, please do share with us if you've had any other afterthoughts. In your opinion, how does the BD1.4 compare to Microlite in terms of overall performance in typical lit living room environments ?
I've never seen the BD in a lit up environment, only at a local Best Buy where their room was light controlled. I think Microlite would be more tolerable and has the better image, overall, with or without the lights off, but that's just my opinion. I like how it retains color fidelity of the source thrown at it...not 100% but it's something I haven't seen with other gray screens.

I believe there's a 1.8 gain screen which Michael can confirm.
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Ximori, was the 1.8 gain the 85% rejection material? How did the 3 gain screen handle ambient light? Thanks in advance ;D
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Ximori, was the 1.8 gain the 85% rejection material? How did the 3 gain screen handle ambient light? Thanks in advance ;D
Yes.

The 3.0 is 65% rejection. With low ambient lighting and a bright pj, I think it exhibits images nicely, especially in high APL content. It's also quite ideal in dark-theater rooms and can help low lumen pjs as noted earlier.
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